144,000 a "theillogical" evaluation
revelationits grand climax at hand!.
chap.
It's unwise to push a literal interpretation upon the features of the book if a symbolic one will fit. -- Ozzie.
If the number given for the "seven" heads are not literally 7, but symbolically 7 instead, then how are they to be interpreted?
I know that you said: Seven itself conveys "complete, perfect, total, mostly". But "complete" in what respect? "Total" in what respect? Are you saying that because the beast has seven heads that the beast is "complete"?
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as shown by the text below, the 7-headed wild beast has a name.. 16 and it puts under compulsion all persons, the small and the great, and the rich and the poor, and the free and the slaves, that they should give these a mark in their right hand or upon their forehead, 17 and that nobody might be able to buy or sell except a person having the mark, the name of the wild beast or the number of its name.
18 here is where wisdom comes in: let the one that has intelligence calculate the number of the wild beast, for it is a mans number; and its number is six hundred and sixty-six.
of course the beast's "number" is "666" -- but that's not it's "name".
I'm happy to know the correct way to do that, Jeffro. Thanks for the lesson.
But don't say I'm wrong "again". Although you aren't able to appreciate it, I know I'm not wrong about the name of the beast being "Babylon the Great". I have more to say about my subject, so stay tuned.
In the meantime, I'd like to know your position regarding how you feel about the Bible, as well as whether you are and atheist or believe in God. Quite a number here at this forum no longer have faith in the Bible, and have even gone so far as to stop believing in a Creator. So, if you feel comfortable with disclosing such information about yourself I would like to know.
Also, I think you would do well to lighten up a bit with regards to the "funny" that PMJ popped. PMJ's reference to the Beverly Hillbillies was merely his way of ribbing you a bit, and just good-natured humor. I just about died with laughter over what he said to you. Even if I myself had been the brunt of the joke in place of you, I couldn't have prevented myself from laughing. Do you have any idea of the number of times that Gumby has called me a "bastard"? What will truly worry me is if he ever stops calling me a "bastard". LOL
Schizm
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as shown by the text below, the 7-headed wild beast has a name.. 16 and it puts under compulsion all persons, the small and the great, and the rich and the poor, and the free and the slaves, that they should give these a mark in their right hand or upon their forehead, 17 and that nobody might be able to buy or sell except a person having the mark, the name of the wild beast or the number of its name.
18 here is where wisdom comes in: let the one that has intelligence calculate the number of the wild beast, for it is a mans number; and its number is six hundred and sixty-six.
of course the beast's "number" is "666" -- but that's not it's "name".
I will also assume from your incorrect use of "was" that you are more similar to the fictional character you mentioned than am I. -- Jeffro.
Striving for perfection, are we?
Since none of those names remotely resemble the name "Jeffro", I must assume that you are referring to....
The comma goes before the quotation mark, like this -----> ....the name "Jeffro," I must assume....
I'll be back with something more substantial later.
Schizm
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144,000 a "theillogical" evaluation
revelationits grand climax at hand!.
chap.
And that only shows even more why 144,000 simply cannot be read literally - or any of Revelation for that matter. -- ozziepost.
Then how many heads DOES the wild beast have, if not literally "seven"?
Seven heads = 7 Kings = 7 World Rulerships = Egypt + Assyria + Babylon + Medo-Persia + Greece + Rome + All Governments Since Rome (which collectively rule the world together) = seven heads .
Schizm
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as shown by the text below, the 7-headed wild beast has a name.. 16 and it puts under compulsion all persons, the small and the great, and the rich and the poor, and the free and the slaves, that they should give these a mark in their right hand or upon their forehead, 17 and that nobody might be able to buy or sell except a person having the mark, the name of the wild beast or the number of its name.
18 here is where wisdom comes in: let the one that has intelligence calculate the number of the wild beast, for it is a mans number; and its number is six hundred and sixty-six.
of course the beast's "number" is "666" -- but that's not it's "name".
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I'm due a big piece of chocolate cake and a quart of dairy-fresh milk. Plus a nap. LOL
Be back laterl
Schizm
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as shown by the text below, the 7-headed wild beast has a name.. 16 and it puts under compulsion all persons, the small and the great, and the rich and the poor, and the free and the slaves, that they should give these a mark in their right hand or upon their forehead, 17 and that nobody might be able to buy or sell except a person having the mark, the name of the wild beast or the number of its name.
18 here is where wisdom comes in: let the one that has intelligence calculate the number of the wild beast, for it is a mans number; and its number is six hundred and sixty-six.
of course the beast's "number" is "666" -- but that's not it's "name".
BOO!
as shown by the text below, the 7-headed wild beast has a name.. 16 and it puts under compulsion all persons, the small and the great, and the rich and the poor, and the free and the slaves, that they should give these a mark in their right hand or upon their forehead, 17 and that nobody might be able to buy or sell except a person having the mark, the name of the wild beast or the number of its name.
18 here is where wisdom comes in: let the one that has intelligence calculate the number of the wild beast, for it is a mans number; and its number is six hundred and sixty-six.
of course the beast's "number" is "666" -- but that's not it's "name".
THE IMPACT OF Schizm's CONCLUSIONS
If it were to be assumed that wrong conclusions have been reached regarding the inscription upon the harlot’s forehead ¾ as to whom such name refers ¾ then three separate things would return to obscurity, things that otherwise would have become crystal clear. Please consider:
So, as is plain, to assume that wrong conclusions have been reached adds up to a big loss. Conversely speaking, there is a great advantage in allowing the Bible to be consistent, for it is then that the Bible becomes its own interpreter. Then everything fits together like we know God’s word should and we are left joyfully exclaiming: "Now I see!" How grateful we are for Jehovah having revealed such deep things to us "babes" ¾ for having ‘made known his words’ to us. ¾ Luke 10:21; Proverbs 1:23 .
More later.
Schizm
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as shown by the text below, the 7-headed wild beast has a name.. 16 and it puts under compulsion all persons, the small and the great, and the rich and the poor, and the free and the slaves, that they should give these a mark in their right hand or upon their forehead, 17 and that nobody might be able to buy or sell except a person having the mark, the name of the wild beast or the number of its name.
18 here is where wisdom comes in: let the one that has intelligence calculate the number of the wild beast, for it is a mans number; and its number is six hundred and sixty-six.
of course the beast's "number" is "666" -- but that's not it's "name".
Figures. You don't even have grace when you win. I conceded defeat. I asked you to prove it, remember? You still have battles on this thread with others, but I conceded defeat. I can't speak to anyone else's estimation of your pictorial proofs, but it cinched that there is no need for me to go on arguing with you about it. So, I conceded.I can't concede for anyone else but myself, so far as I know.
AuldSoul
So sense in trying to save yourself now, Little Auldie. You've done screwed up and did yourself in, man.
Given enough rope, you hung yourself!
ROFLMAO !!!
Schizm
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as shown by the text below, the 7-headed wild beast has a name.. 16 and it puts under compulsion all persons, the small and the great, and the rich and the poor, and the free and the slaves, that they should give these a mark in their right hand or upon their forehead, 17 and that nobody might be able to buy or sell except a person having the mark, the name of the wild beast or the number of its name.
18 here is where wisdom comes in: let the one that has intelligence calculate the number of the wild beast, for it is a mans number; and its number is six hundred and sixty-six.
of course the beast's "number" is "666" -- but that's not it's "name".
The comment in Revelation ¾ Its Grand Climax At Hand!, page 196, paragraph 33, says:
"The wild beast has a name, and this name is a number: 666."
So, I've been wrong in saying the beast has both a name and a number.
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as shown by the text below, the 7-headed wild beast has a name.. 16 and it puts under compulsion all persons, the small and the great, and the rich and the poor, and the free and the slaves, that they should give these a mark in their right hand or upon their forehead, 17 and that nobody might be able to buy or sell except a person having the mark, the name of the wild beast or the number of its name.
18 here is where wisdom comes in: let the one that has intelligence calculate the number of the wild beast, for it is a mans number; and its number is six hundred and sixty-six.
of course the beast's "number" is "666" -- but that's not it's "name".
Well, there you have it folks! A picture is worth a thousand words. Now that we have pictographical proof of Schizm's point, I concede defeat.AuldSoul
That's right, this thread has been all about YOU, hasn't it. You conceited nincompoop! Any unbiased person reading this thread can easily see that you have a severe case of egomania.
Schizm
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