LittleToe,
You remind me of one of those little mutts that have a bark that's much worse than their bite.
You're all noise.
Schizm
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368The Wild Beast has both a Name & Number. Do you know what the NAME is?
by Schizm inas shown by the text below, the 7-headed wild beast has a name.. 16 and it puts under compulsion all persons, the small and the great, and the rich and the poor, and the free and the slaves, that they should give these a mark in their right hand or upon their forehead, 17 and that nobody might be able to buy or sell except a person having the mark, the name of the wild beast or the number of its name.
18 here is where wisdom comes in: let the one that has intelligence calculate the number of the wild beast, for it is a mans number; and its number is six hundred and sixty-six.
of course the beast's "number" is "666" -- but that's not it's "name".
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The Wild Beast has both a Name & Number. Do you know what the NAME is?
by Schizm inas shown by the text below, the 7-headed wild beast has a name.. 16 and it puts under compulsion all persons, the small and the great, and the rich and the poor, and the free and the slaves, that they should give these a mark in their right hand or upon their forehead, 17 and that nobody might be able to buy or sell except a person having the mark, the name of the wild beast or the number of its name.
18 here is where wisdom comes in: let the one that has intelligence calculate the number of the wild beast, for it is a mans number; and its number is six hundred and sixty-six.
of course the beast's "number" is "666" -- but that's not it's "name".
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The Bible says that the name written on the woman's forehead is a "mystery", meaning that there is a mystery that surrounds the name. It's certainly no mystery what the name itself is, because it's easily seen to be the name of the wild beast, which is Babylon the Great. So in what respect then is the name a "mystery"? The REAL mystery of the matter refers to the REASON for which the beast is given the particular name of "Babylon the Great". Being the "mystery" that it is, requires the reader to unlock the REASON for the name being what it is.
In order to solve the said "mystery" a person has to first understand the reason why the tower of Babel was built, and what its accomplishment was thought to have proven. Once that is understood, then a clear parallel is seen between its intended purpose and the purpose behind the 8th King being 'constructed'.
The intent of the people who built the tower of Babel was to show by example what can be accomplished if people will only "stick together". By being UNITED in their efforts they wanted to provide "peace and security" for themselves, but independently of God. That's exactly the reason for which the nations will cooperate together in forming a one-world government. They will think that their UNITED effort at satisfying the world's need for "peace and security" will be a successful venture, in spite of God being left out of the picture. But they're in for a great big surprise, even as were those who built the 'original tower'. "Unless Jehovah himself builds the house, it is to no avail that its builders have worked hard on it." -- Psalms 127:1.
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The Wild Beast has both a Name & Number. Do you know what the NAME is?
by Schizm inas shown by the text below, the 7-headed wild beast has a name.. 16 and it puts under compulsion all persons, the small and the great, and the rich and the poor, and the free and the slaves, that they should give these a mark in their right hand or upon their forehead, 17 and that nobody might be able to buy or sell except a person having the mark, the name of the wild beast or the number of its name.
18 here is where wisdom comes in: let the one that has intelligence calculate the number of the wild beast, for it is a mans number; and its number is six hundred and sixty-six.
of course the beast's "number" is "666" -- but that's not it's "name".
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Didn't we cover that a few pages back?
http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/10/105318/1855366/post.ashx#1855366
"Babylon the Great" does not add up to 666...
Nor must it do so! The "name" of the beast is one thing, while its "number" is yet another.
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The Wild Beast has both a Name & Number. Do you know what the NAME is?
by Schizm inas shown by the text below, the 7-headed wild beast has a name.. 16 and it puts under compulsion all persons, the small and the great, and the rich and the poor, and the free and the slaves, that they should give these a mark in their right hand or upon their forehead, 17 and that nobody might be able to buy or sell except a person having the mark, the name of the wild beast or the number of its name.
18 here is where wisdom comes in: let the one that has intelligence calculate the number of the wild beast, for it is a mans number; and its number is six hundred and sixty-six.
of course the beast's "number" is "666" -- but that's not it's "name".
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Ezra,
Thank you for your post. The image which Nebuchadnezzar set up is what might be called a "prototype" of the yet-to-arrive 8th King. Just as Neb required those attending the ceremony to "bow" before his image (thus showing that they accepted him as being the Highest Authority) so it will be when the 8th King arrives. In either case, for any who refuse to "bow" they were to end up loosing their lives because of it.
The WTS has yet to appreciate that "666" is NOT the name of the wild beast. That's its "number" not its "name". Of course the WTS isn't alone in misunderstanding this point.
Also, the WTS has been completely mistaken in thinking the United Nations has fulfilled the role of the 8th King. The 8th King hasn't even made the scene yet. The 8th King will literally rule the entire world, something the United Nations has never done, even as you mentioned.
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The Wild Beast has both a Name & Number. Do you know what the NAME is?
by Schizm inas shown by the text below, the 7-headed wild beast has a name.. 16 and it puts under compulsion all persons, the small and the great, and the rich and the poor, and the free and the slaves, that they should give these a mark in their right hand or upon their forehead, 17 and that nobody might be able to buy or sell except a person having the mark, the name of the wild beast or the number of its name.
18 here is where wisdom comes in: let the one that has intelligence calculate the number of the wild beast, for it is a mans number; and its number is six hundred and sixty-six.
of course the beast's "number" is "666" -- but that's not it's "name".
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The Wild Beast has both a Name & Number. Do you know what the NAME is?
by Schizm inas shown by the text below, the 7-headed wild beast has a name.. 16 and it puts under compulsion all persons, the small and the great, and the rich and the poor, and the free and the slaves, that they should give these a mark in their right hand or upon their forehead, 17 and that nobody might be able to buy or sell except a person having the mark, the name of the wild beast or the number of its name.
18 here is where wisdom comes in: let the one that has intelligence calculate the number of the wild beast, for it is a mans number; and its number is six hundred and sixty-six.
of course the beast's "number" is "666" -- but that's not it's "name".
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Gumby & tetrapod.sapien:
Just a reminder: Mrs. Smith requests that when using her artwork that you give her the proper recognition and post the address to her personal website.
EXAMPLE:
Art used by permission by Pat Marvenko Smith
Visit her "Revelation Illustrated" site: http://www.revelationillustrated.com
Thanks,
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The Wild Beast has both a Name & Number. Do you know what the NAME is?
by Schizm inas shown by the text below, the 7-headed wild beast has a name.. 16 and it puts under compulsion all persons, the small and the great, and the rich and the poor, and the free and the slaves, that they should give these a mark in their right hand or upon their forehead, 17 and that nobody might be able to buy or sell except a person having the mark, the name of the wild beast or the number of its name.
18 here is where wisdom comes in: let the one that has intelligence calculate the number of the wild beast, for it is a mans number; and its number is six hundred and sixty-six.
of course the beast's "number" is "666" -- but that's not it's "name".
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Yes, I have a similar concern over the accuracy of the cloud covering. -- jnat.
And just what relevance does that have to the subject of my thread? You've tried repeatedly to derail my topic. It's really so obvious what you're all about. You have no real interest in learning anything about the Bible. Your sole intent is to vent the hatred you have for the WTS, plus anyone associated with it.
It would be nice if you and a couple of others here would at least respect the Christian lady's request that Christ not be dishonored when using her artwork on this other websites. Mrs. Pat Marvenko Smith has obviously taken great pains with her artwork, with a desire to glorify God and his Son. She obviously has a good heart, with good intentions, and is a professional in her field of expertise (art). Will she be one of those who accepts the "mark" when that day of "test" finally arrives? I somehow have a gut-feeling that she won't accept it. But then of course I feel the same way about myself, and a person will never know for sure until that pressure-filled day arrives. ----> "Let him that thinks he is standing beware that he does not fall".--1 Corrinthians 10:12.
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The Wild Beast has both a Name & Number. Do you know what the NAME is?
by Schizm inas shown by the text below, the 7-headed wild beast has a name.. 16 and it puts under compulsion all persons, the small and the great, and the rich and the poor, and the free and the slaves, that they should give these a mark in their right hand or upon their forehead, 17 and that nobody might be able to buy or sell except a person having the mark, the name of the wild beast or the number of its name.
18 here is where wisdom comes in: let the one that has intelligence calculate the number of the wild beast, for it is a mans number; and its number is six hundred and sixty-six.
of course the beast's "number" is "666" -- but that's not it's "name".
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Pictured are those who will have placed their hopes in the newly formed one-world government (Babylon the Great) for providing the world's need of "peace and security". Multitudes of which are church-goers, of course. Though claiming to be Christians, in truth they place the authority of the 8th King over that of God's authority, thereby committing spiritual fornication. These ones are the offspring of the harlot (the religion of Christendom) who is said to be a "mother of harlots". Yes, due to their having allowed the wild beast to "have its way" with them even the males are "harlots" . -- Schizm.
Though claiming to be Christians, in truth they place the authority of the 8th King over that of God's authority, thereby committing spiritual fornication.
I'm curious, how do "they' do that? -- Ozzie.The Scriptures clearly tell us that the 8th King will require all the earth to acknowledge it as the supreme authority, with the threat of becoming extinct for any person who refuses to comply. Being a non-Christian won't save a person from being faced with this "test". Being a Christian--whether it be a member of one of Christendom's churches or a Jehovah's Witness--will not save a person from facing this "test". And, simply being a Jehovah's Witness doesn't make one immune from caving in under the pressure of this "test".
But the context of what I said was in reference to the proper identity of the "woman" who is seen in company with the beast of Revelation 17. I've stated that she represents Christendom as a whole. I've explained WHY this "woman" (harlot) has the name of the beast written on her forehead; and that it means she will have compromised her integrity to God by her being willing to accept the "mark". Her acceptance of the "mark" reveals that she ascribes more authority to the 8th King than she does to God himself. Thus, she will have become guilty of idolatry by her putting the 8th King ahead of God.
Here's the string of events that leads up to this "test" being imposed upon mankind:
- Satan is cast down to earth, which results in "woe for the earth".-- Revelation 12.
- A devastating international war is the consequence of the above.--Matthew 24:7.
- Resulting in the 10-horned 7th King/head (i.e. all nations of earth) receiving the "death-stroke".-- Revelation 13.
- The death of the 10-horned 7th head spells out a collapse of all governments has taken place. Never has anything so devastating taken place before this. Is there anyway to prevent it from ever happening again?
- To everyone's amazement the beast comes back to life ... as an 8th King (one-world government). This "one-world government" comes about as the result of the majority of the world's governments agreeing to give it the power it needs to do the job of bringing about "peace and security".--Revelation 17.
- The thought will be that unless ALL of mankind is willing to stand behind the newly appointed 8th King, the dream of achieving "peace and security" will be unattainable. So without the full support of every adult person, there is the risk of another collapse happening again at some future date. Therefore, the making of an 8th King is considered to be the world's last hope for being able to live in peace and security.
- This promise of "peace and security" will appeal to Christendom when that day comes, even to the point of her being willing to accept the "mark" (which explains the reason for the beast's name being on the woman's forehead). Thus, the "woman" (harlot) is seen as being an institution who endorses the world's effort for producing "peace and security".
- Will all of Christendom's members follow the harlot's example, and also accept the "mark"? Or will some of them heed God's words--"Get out of her my people!"--words which apply ONLY to that future day. Any person who refuses to accept the "mark" will be deemed an enemy of the world's effort of achieving "peace and security". But to refuse the "mark" makes a person God' friend, because it means the person accepts God's authority as being higher than that of the 8th King's authority.
- Of course the WTS will not have endorsed the 8th King to begin with, and for that reason isn't included in what the harlot represents.
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The Wild Beast has both a Name & Number. Do you know what the NAME is?
by Schizm inas shown by the text below, the 7-headed wild beast has a name.. 16 and it puts under compulsion all persons, the small and the great, and the rich and the poor, and the free and the slaves, that they should give these a mark in their right hand or upon their forehead, 17 and that nobody might be able to buy or sell except a person having the mark, the name of the wild beast or the number of its name.
18 here is where wisdom comes in: let the one that has intelligence calculate the number of the wild beast, for it is a mans number; and its number is six hundred and sixty-six.
of course the beast's "number" is "666" -- but that's not it's "name".
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Terms for Use of Revelation Illustrated Artwork On a Website or Homepage...
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You may use up to 6 illustrations as long as it is used in a way that glorifies Christ, and that you add this copyright notice near the art with a link to my site at http://www.revelationillustrated.comArt used by permission by Pat Marvenko Smith, copyright 1992.To order prints visit her "Revelation Illustrated" site.
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The Wild Beast has both a Name & Number. Do you know what the NAME is?
by Schizm inas shown by the text below, the 7-headed wild beast has a name.. 16 and it puts under compulsion all persons, the small and the great, and the rich and the poor, and the free and the slaves, that they should give these a mark in their right hand or upon their forehead, 17 and that nobody might be able to buy or sell except a person having the mark, the name of the wild beast or the number of its name.
18 here is where wisdom comes in: let the one that has intelligence calculate the number of the wild beast, for it is a mans number; and its number is six hundred and sixty-six.
of course the beast's "number" is "666" -- but that's not it's "name".
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the "one world government"
Is that old 'horse chestnut' still doing the rounds? -- Ozzie.Absolutely no horse chestnut nor mound of pony pebbles can prevent me from returning to this thread.
I saw your post # 12159 up above, Ozzie. I'll comment on that sometime Friday.
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