The UN source is available directly from the UN website. Click on advanced search and search for watchtower bible tract pdf. The official statement should be one of a few documents. This way, instead of getting it from apostates, you are getting it directly from the mouth of the wild beast.
pronomono
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A little help from you Apostate friends.LOL
by jam ina posted a topic a few days ago about my ex-brother-law who came.
by to visit me.
well he called and he would love to hear why i am not.
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What was your "Aha!" moment?
by Hortenzie infor me it was when i learned that gb makes their decisions by 2/3 majority vote, not by direction of holy spirit..
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pronomono
Hortenzie, I say I never believed, but I guess I meant this more as an adult. I was raised as a JW, so as a young child I accepted my mother's teaching as absolute fact. How could my mom and everyone else I knew be wrong? As I grew into an adult and began to use my powers of reason, I stopped believing but reasoned that all religions have mis-truth in them. Why leave this one for another? So although I didn't believe anymore (around the age of 18/19, I'm now 29), I continued on as a JW, making the sacrifices that they make. Now that I realize my original reasoning was only the tip of the iceberg, it's becoming too much of a burden to continue on as a JW.
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False Prophecy Part 2 With A Jehovahs Witness Elder ......... HE LIED
by Watchtower-Free injw: the online library on the jw.org web site.. kw: oh, im on google.. jw: oh, no... look under, uh.... .
kw: ill give you the reference and you can look it up.. jw: no.. .
most of the brothers never believed in it anyway.. kw: i dont understand this.
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I'm fixing to read Pt 3, but I will attest to the fact that we are scared to learn the truth.
When I first visited JWFacts, I was scared to look at the Wt CD-ROM for fear that the quotes were truthful. But I had to know the truth. I had to know if apostates were twisting words, or if it was the GB that were twisting words. When I finally verified the quotes, I felt sick to my stomach because the apostates were speaking truth, the GB was not.
I'm still dealing with the mental repurcussions of that fateful day. And I found out that it's taking a toll on my blood pressure.
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Questions During Meetings...Grounds for Suspicion?
by Cold Steel inwith so many meetings during the week, it seems like the opportunity to raise questions would be rich.
i just wondered how probing questions are handled in most kingdom halls.
are they taken as an indication of an inquisitive mind or a potential source of stumbling for weak members?
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pronomono
Yep, the only ones allowed to ask questions are the elders. You can only make comments at the meetings. I've seen some people make some pretty off the wall comments. Usually the elders will get a weird look like they don't know what to do, thank the person for their "expression", and then deal with the matter after the meeting in the intimidation chamber ("back room").
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What was your "Aha!" moment?
by Hortenzie infor me it was when i learned that gb makes their decisions by 2/3 majority vote, not by direction of holy spirit..
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For me I always had my doubts. It was until reading Crisis of Conscience that I understood why.
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Elders receive a report that I am openly displaying false religious symbol
by confusedandalone inwhen you look at the image above what do you see?
a sneaker or an outward display that i am now following after another religious group?.
well yesterday i had a 10 minute conversation with an elder who finally got the balls to call me.
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Forget the colors. What about the canabis leaf on the tongue?
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Bible study last night Keep yourselves in gods love Ch 15
by DS211 inlast night my wife and i studied with elder and started chapter 15 of the "in gods love book".
"for many people in todays world, work is anything but a pleasure.
how is it possible to see good for our work under such circumstances?
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I would rather be on my secular job than preaching any day. I'm closer to my worldly boss than any of the brothers at my congregation. It's sad really. The people who are supposed to love me the most don't even seem to care. How's that for brotherly love?
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For all believers: I have a serious question
by confusedandalone ingod ordered the killing of men women and children and animals and pillaging of various nations around them.
in some instances god apparently led the way with his might arm.. this is not a question of wether it is right or wrong, but moreso a question(s) of:.
1. if you were there would you have personally participated in those killings or would you ignore the commands?.
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An added thought, these ones weren't just committing genocide in the name of Jehovah. They were vindicating and sanctifying Jehovah's name. They were fighting for Jehovah's honor, to show him to be a jealous God, the only one worthy of worship. Again, JWs do this today in spiritual warfare, no matter what the cost.
Unfortunately today, Jehovah doesn't provide the physical protection as he apparently did for his Israelite nation. No, he protects us spiritually, just as shown in the past drama. So it doesn't matter if you get raped, murdered, etc. in the course of your spiritual warfare. Jehovah will remember you.
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For all believers: I have a serious question
by confusedandalone ingod ordered the killing of men women and children and animals and pillaging of various nations around them.
in some instances god apparently led the way with his might arm.. this is not a question of wether it is right or wrong, but moreso a question(s) of:.
1. if you were there would you have personally participated in those killings or would you ignore the commands?.
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I'm not currently a believer, but yes, without a doubt, yes.
Why? Because my God told me to do so. He had proven himself to be my God through mighty acts and had now asked me to be his right hand man in executing justice among the nations. Being brainwashed, I would gladly do whatever God said to do. I've been there, done that, in a sense as a JW.
Aren't JWs basically doing the same today, just without the bloodshed? Many that are converted out of their "worldly" religion to the JW faith can consider themselves as good as dead if they fall prey to the cult mentality. And the JW that converted him could easily be considered as one who took the life of that one. Because we all know from our time in as JWs, we had no life.
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What ever happened too.....
by problemaddict in...the real jw apologists?
not the ones that pop on here and have a go with the athiests, but the ones that defended their posision at least with some form of scholarly notion and education.
you know.... greg stafford (last seen being clearly an apostate....but not getting disfellowshipped for starting another religion.....odd) site abandon for months.. jehovah.to - the haven for the learned with such heavies as hal flemmings, solomon landers, and heinz schmidt.
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They probably received a letter from the WTBTS legal department telling them to cease and desist their operations unless they want to be prosecuted. That's what happened to one site that was hosting the Daily Text, also ran by an active JW.