Posts by pronomono

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August 2015 Awake! FML

by InjusticeSystem in

i'm gonna have to stop reading this shit just for my own sanity and the survival of my computer.

august 2015 awake!.

can we please destroy this box that they keep publishing with some actual facts?

pronomono

Simon, I think this is what you're looking for, courtesy of JWFacts.

"But mention is made of some of those things that have come to light since 1874, as a further evidence of the Lord's presence since that date, as follows: Adding machines, aeroplanes, aluminium, antiseptic surgery, artificial dyes, automatic couplers, automobiles, barbed wire, bicycles, carborundum, cash registers, celluloid, cream separators, disc plows, electric railways, electric welding, elevators, escalators, fireless cookers, gas engines, harvesting machines, illuminating gas, induction motors, linotypes, monotypes, motion pictures, pasteurization, radium, railway signals, Roentgen rays, skyscrapers, smokeless powder, submarines, subways, talking machines, telephones, television, typewriters, vacuum cleaners, wireless telegraphy and wireless telephony." Creation 1927 2,175,000 ed. p.297

We can add to this list.... smartphones, electric cars, self-driving cars, YouTube, plasma televisions, electronic toll booths, satellite tv, rechargeable lithium batteries, doppler radar, bluetooth, GPS, digital cameras, DNA profiling, broadband internet, the world wide web, and online apostates. So much proof through worldly innovations...

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Preparing for Governing Body 3.0? Making older GB step down? (New September Watchtower)

by FusionTheism in

watchtower, study edition, september 2015, "are you reaching the stature that belongs to christ?":.

paragraph 6: the mature christian shows humility in that he recognizes that jehovahs ways and standards are always better than his own.

[footnote: for example, older, experienced brothers may be asked to step aside from certain responsibilities and to lend support to younger brothers as they take on those responsibilities.].

pronomono

The rest of the GB will pull a Guy Pierce......

.... and take it to the grave.

No retirement or stepping aside for them.

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Does What We Say Here Or In Person Really Help JWs To Get Out Of The Religion?

by minimus in

jw
friends

if we are in the congregation, do you think our comments or questions actually reach elders or others in the congregation?

do our comments on this board affect witnesses to the point of questioning their faith?

pronomono

Yes! This site helped me immensely. In the order of help, Ray Franz's two books were the most influential, followed by JWFacts, and then you guys. No offense, but from years of mental conditioning I just didn't trust you but I was willing to peer in with my guard up to do an honest investigation. Aside from the occasional troll, I found you to be legit and rational. Terry's massively long posts helped me out more than he'll ever know. (So thanks Terry for helping free my mind.)

Currently, I still have one foot in the door, but the rest of me is out. This year, I've only had to sit through three meetings and a one day assembly and no service. I haven't really received any pressure from the elders for this year. My fade is going strong, but I'm still waiting on the fallout from when the rest of my friends and family realize how bad (or good) it's become. The only one that knows is my wife, and she's been silently supportive, missing all the meetings and service I miss. I guess now it's been close to a year and a half since I've knocked on a door.

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" Special " one day convention! What's the breakdown??

by DATA-DOG in

i was just curious if anyone has had their "special" convention.

is it uber-watchtarded or just the normal propaganda, followed by the solicitation of funds??.

dd.

pronomono

I've had mine. I went with my wife because she wanted to go (I think mainly for friends and family). Nothing stood out to me, but I was able to tune most of it out. Nothing fancy. No audio recordings. No video. Seemed just like an assembly from the old days, except only two people got baptized, down from our usual dozen or so. Content-wise, I wasn't mentally there so I can't help. I just kind of drifted on through. I do remember laughing my ass off at one demonstration where this young worldly girl (12 or so) asks out our JW brother and he goes into this uber-mature JW answer about how he doesn't date until he's ready for marriage. A little 12 year old speaking a canned script that sounded like something that would come out of a old person's mouth. Best laugh I'd had all day because of how ridiculous it was.

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How to Resist Demon Attacks - Caution: Scary Stuff!

by snugglebunny in

wt.

12-15-66: investigating house and household objectsone under demon attack should calmly, not in hysteria, investigate his house and household articles.

in some few cases the house may be the cause of trouble and the best thing to do is move out.

pronomono

Isn't this stuff technically still 'doctrine?'

I would say yes. I've never seen "new" light on the subject, and it's still available on the WT Library. The rest of the article is just as ridiculous.

.......... This explains so much. Lol

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Question Box: Should JW's use the Internet to witness to people abroad?

by cappytan in

i hadn't seen this posted here yet.. source via wifibandit on exjw subreddit.. what are your thoughts/comments on this?.

.

pronomono

I guess this means no more responses to Yahoo! Answers? I knew quite a few pioneers that would flesh out their time doing that. Lol.

This is an odd article. Reading between the lines, they aren't saying what they mean. What it looks like they mean is "Don't regularly preach to those outside your territory. If interest is found, turn it over to the branch office and they'll take care of it". They are hiding that in the dangers of using the Internet for witnessing, making it sound like the internet is the problem. More of their word aerobics...not being clear about what they mean.

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How much can you buy with a dollar a week allowance?

by John Aquila in

$ 1 dollar a week x 8 million jws = $ 8 million dollars a week.

$ 8 million x 52 weeks in a year = $ 416 million dollars a year.

and its all tax free.. you know jws donate more than $ 1 dollar a week!

pronomono

In my experience as account servant the congregation expenses were covered by very few people. Most contributed nothing - and that includes for the literature. In all my life as a JW the total I contributed over a 30 year period was less than $50.00

This was the same that I experienced. In a congregation of a little less than a hundred, we'd have a few hundred dollars donated each month, usually by the same handful of people, towards the worldwide work. I haven't been a servant since the days of the new mandatory donation, so I'm sure this number has drastically increased.

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Average Age of this Forum?

by Garrett in

jw
friends

heyo!.

i'm quite interested in knowing the average age of those of us who use this forum.

i made a quick strawpoll that you can find at the following link: http://strawpoll.me/4340636 just pick an age and click "vote" if you wish to participate.. admins: if this breaks any rules, i apologize in advance..

pronomono

30 here.

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Prayers, are you worthy to do them? [5/15/90 wt]

by sowhatnow in

for those who still pray, and go to the kingdom hall, when was the last article on prayer?

whats the view now?.

king solomon asked that jehovah hear only foreigners who prayed toward gods temple in jerusalem.

pronomono

The power of prayer was one thing that helped me wake up a little. I sat there thinking when was the last time I really had a prayer answered? When was the last time I ever felt a spiritual connection to my heavenly father in the sky? Answer. Never.

I always assumed that I must be the odd one out, that there was something wrong with me. But I tried my best to be a good person. I tried my best to serve Jehovah no matter how insufficient I felt. I assumed that Jehovah was blessing me because I was going from Mic handler to MS to Literature Servant to Accounts Servant to giving Public Talks. He was giving me so many privileges. He was blessing me in other ways than having this personal connection. But then I realized what assume does - it makes an ASS out of U and ME.

Someone actually has to be there for your prayers to be heard and answered. Otherwise it's like the tooth fairy when a child puts a tooth under the pillow and finds a dollar in its place the next morning. The child believes, but it doesn't make it real. Someone on earth deceived the child - for better or worse.

Same today. We may pray. Sometimes we may even feel that a prayer was answered. But in reality we were deceived. If it wasn't plain coincidence, we probably had a parent (or some other person / good samaritan) looking out for us answering that prayer. Just because someone takes care of one of our needs (answers a prayer) doesn't make God any more real than the tooth fairy.

I sincerely want to believe, but I can't find sufficient evidence.

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I had sex with my wife but now he’s my brother.

by John Aquila in

golden age 1930 apr 2 p.446.

question: will husband and wife live together after the resurrection is completed, if both are in harmony with god?.

the most that we know is that here will be no children born during the last 100 years of the millinnium (isa.

pronomono

Ha ha. This just made my day. Crazy stuff like this reminds me that I'm not making the wrong decision by leaving a life of spiritual manipulation behind me.