Posts by pronomono

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The new bible did NOT remove the previously [bracked inserted words], it only removed the brackets, so it's even more deceptive..

by EndofMysteries in

many said how they removed the bracketed words, etc.

here is an example, an older bible in exodus 18:16 would say this....."i must make known the decisions of the [true] god and his laws.".

the word "true" is not in the original manuscripts, it's inserted, hence the [ ].

pronomono

As explained at the AGM, it's supposed to be an idea translation because word for word would be too confusing.

For example, if we tell someone from a different region we are shooting the breeze, they may think we are taking a gun and shooting at thin air when in reality we are just having a relaxed conversation with friends. All languages have their idioms and phrases that say one thing but mean another, or mean something totally different in another part of the world.

So the Society is trying to translate the thoughts and not the words. Unfortunately, this gives them even more room to make changes because everybody and their momma can argue what was meant by certain words 2,000 years ago and no one can prove anything since the original writers are no longer here.

MrMustard's explanation is more scriptural, though.

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For those who are still IN and attending meetings, do you still study the WT & other books?

by ohnightdivine in

for those of you who are still attending meetings due to various reasons, how do you prepare yourself for each program?.

do you still read and study the wt?.

do you still read and study the okm, jeremiah, etc?.

pronomono

I never started studying. I only did it when my parents would force me to. When I got married, my wife and I never studied together. She'd do her lesson by herself. On the rare occasion we would study, I wouldn't underline. An elder invited us over to their house to study a Wt one time. We went and participated, but I didn't underline anything.

Now I just take my tablet and Bible to all the meetings and sometimes highlight the answers during the lesson. That makes the meetings seem to go a lot faster.

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Did having kids make your decision to leave easier or harder?

by Comatose in

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i was thinking about a few things confusedandalone said the other day.

i mirrored his thinking identically.

for me it was having kids that made my decision to leave an easier one.. if i had no children, i might still be in and just going through the motions.

pronomono

This is the exact reason that I haven't had kids. The reason I give to JWs why I don't want kids is that I don't want them growing up in this system of things. The real reason I haven't had kids is I don't want them growing up the JW org. If I had kids, that might make it easier to leave. They might inspire some courage into me.

But for now, I'm a push-over and a coward that finds solace with nightly meditation, study, and alcohol. (The alcohol isn't nightly, but it does make me feel better. I'm won't let myself develop a dependency, but I will not deprive myself either). I feel that my cowardice was instilled in me by growing up as a JW. I'm slowly working up the courage and have already expressed some of my concerns with my wife, although I haven't told her everything yet. As I continue to work up the courage and pending the outcome of my "coming out" of the JW religion, I may decide to have kids. I'm 28 now, and hope to complete my transformation before my 30th birthday. I plan to attend the Christmas party at work this year.

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Participating on Assembly Programs and meetings... the hypocritical things that go on

by confusedandalone in

i was thinking the other day about how i use to marvel at the idea of being on a ca or do program!

when i was starting to get myself together so to speak i wanted to be one of those guys always giving the powerful talk to shut the assembly down.

the one talk every spoke about in the car ride home.

pronomono

Working as an attendant at a DC, I was asked to help mop the floors during the baptism. An elder came and snatched the mop out of my hands says attendants don't mop floors. My response? "I'm sorry. I didn't know I was above the privilege. Jesus wasn't above washing the feet of his apostles. How is this any different?" I continued to mop the floors.

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Participating on Assembly Programs and meetings... the hypocritical things that go on

by confusedandalone in

i was thinking the other day about how i use to marvel at the idea of being on a ca or do program!

when i was starting to get myself together so to speak i wanted to be one of those guys always giving the powerful talk to shut the assembly down.

the one talk every spoke about in the car ride home.

pronomono

During a drama a number of our sisters were told that there shirts were too low and showing too much skin. Not one sister was wearing a blouse that revealed any cleavage. It was too low only because the blouse didn't come all the way up to the neck.

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Favorite or Follow A Thread

by pronomono in

i know there is a feature that allows you to view threads that you start and threads that you have posted to.

it would be nice to have a feature where you can "favorite" or "follow" threads and view these in a similar way to threads that you have posted to or started.

i've been told that i'm blind as a bat.. i see a lot of people making single posts that say "marked", and am assuming they do this so that they can follow the thread as a thread they have posted to..

pronomono

Well, since you mentioned it...... having a view to show posts since the last time I looked at a thread would be nice too.

Is the bookmark a global bookmark (similar to a sticky on other forums), or would this be a personal bookmark? I'd prefer a personal bookmark, if possible.

Thanks for all your hard work, Simon.

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Favorite or Follow A Thread

by pronomono in

i know there is a feature that allows you to view threads that you start and threads that you have posted to.

it would be nice to have a feature where you can "favorite" or "follow" threads and view these in a similar way to threads that you have posted to or started.

i've been told that i'm blind as a bat.. i see a lot of people making single posts that say "marked", and am assuming they do this so that they can follow the thread as a thread they have posted to..

pronomono

I know there is a feature that allows you to view threads that you start and threads that you have posted to. It would be nice to have a feature where you can "favorite" or "follow" threads and view these in a similar way to threads that you have posted to or started. Or is this already available? I've been told that I'm blind as a bat.

I see a lot of people making single posts that say "marked", and am assuming they do this so that they can follow the thread as a thread they have posted to.

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If you want to show a JW some of the older publications from a non-apostate and 'safe' website..

by The Quiet One in

"it is appreciated that these documents do not reflect the current understanding of the bible enjoyed by jehovah's witnesses, and for up-to-date information the reader is encouraged to visit the official site of the watchtower bible and tract society.".

http://www.strictlygenteel.co.uk/.

pronomono

I also use http://www.a2z.org/wtarchive/archive.htm . It has older documents available in a more "portable" format.

Good find on Strictly Genteel, though. I'll definitely be using it.

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Have you read C.T. Russell's controversial view of "new light"?

by Island Man in

"if we were following a man undoubtedly it would be different with us; undoubtedly one human idea would contradict another and that which was light one or two or six years ago would be regarded as darkness now: but with god there is no variableness, neither shadow of turning, and so it is with truth; any knowledge or light coming from god must be like its author.

a new view of truth never can contradict a former truth.

new light never extinguishes older light, but adds to it.

pronomono

Awesome find. I just told my wife this a couple of weeks ago. Of course, it was my own thinking. Now I have a Watchtower to back me up.

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Use Of Electronic Tablets At Meetings

by Brother Mike in

i do.. what does the soceity actually say about them?

(i know some the members of the gb use them) .

what do you think about using them at meetings?

pronomono

I was already using mine on stage prior to this, mainly for timekeeping though. Nobody ever said anything about it. Now the BOE letter just makes it official.