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  Question About 607BCE and How That Date Was Picked - Help JW Scholars

  by Comatose in

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  so i've been sharing some a little at a time with my sister.

  she is married and very scared of actually learning too much.

  she doesn't want to ruin her marriage.

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  The number 2,520 years is a number arrived at by using the 'special math-magic formula' of 7x360=2,520.

  The number 7 comes from the book of Daniel chapter 4 regarding Nebuchadnezzar's 7 years of insanity. (As we know, Nebuchadnezzar was king of Babylon and Babylon came to be the WTBTS's symbol for all false religion. Revelation chapter 14 speaks of "Babylon the Great".)

  The number 360 comes from the number of days in a 'lunar' or Jewish year. (Of course we don't live by the lunar calendar and the 'marked' year 1914 C.E. is a Gregorian calendar date.)

  Here's where the 'special math-magic formula' comes into play. 7 (years) x 360 (days) equals 2,520. BUT--- since we live in the Gregorian calendar world, and this 'prophecy' is fulfilled according to the Gregorian calendar date of 1914 C.E.; 7 (years) x 365.25 (days) equals 2,556.75. A difference of almost 37 years. (Of course, by using 'math-magic' those 37 years become 'invisible' just like Christ's return was 'invisible'.)

  Another part of this 'math magic formula' is assuming that 2 other Bible Scriptures, in Numbers and Ezekiel, that speak of a 'day for a year' is part of this mysterious formula. (WTBTS say that the 'day for a year' formula is a Biblical rule when meting out punishment.)

  One would also have to assume also that Jehovah used the kingdom of Babylon (world empire of false religion) to forshadow/picture God's Kingdom. That somehow Nebuchadnezzar's 7 years of insanity forshadowed/pictured a period of inactivity for God's kingdom. With Jehovah (and a bit of 'math-magic') all things are possible.

  Is this the kind of stuff Dan Brown used to write the Di Vinci Code?

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  Latest WT lesson typical example of why meetings are such downers

  by JimmyPage in

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  2. friends

  here's what i gathered from the most recent wt study: 1. all your problems are your own fault, or 2. the ones that aren't your fault are satan's fault.

  3. don't blame jehovah for anything, and 4. more importantly, never criticize the ones who claim to represent jehovah.. this is a typical meeting nowadays.

  there are all kinds of possibilities to emphasize positive qualities and experiences.

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  That's y i don't go!
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  Jw's: Who do you identify as the FDS?

  by snare&racket in

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  2. announcements

  who do you think is the fds on earth today?.

  barely any jw can point at a gb member by face, fewer can name the governing body, fewer know these men in person or can account for them as people.

  not one person became a jw from reading matthew 24 and saying 'aha!'.

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  The 8 popes all speak English and most are Americans. WOW! O well it's an American religion, born and raised right here in the good ol' USA. Oh and yes they do have a token black American and a Vietnam vet for good measure.

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  New Bible info, Jah name x6 locations & other reports

  by OwnAccord in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  here's some info i came accross & that's been circulating via email (i did not write it).

  bethel lecture on the new bible.

  by governing body bro geoffrey jackson.. use the new bible and get to know it read it.

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  And if you are English speaking, you got a new NWT. If not, then you will have to "wait on Jehovah" for another cold front. I found it ironic that the japan branch printed English version Bibles? Really! Guess it was more important for us English speakers to get the new version before the rest of the world. Jehovah loves us more! And he should since JW's are an American religion.

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  FALSE PREMISES = FACTS (in the world of the Governing Body)

  by Terry in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  when the governing body of jehovah's witnesses made chronology their focus they built on what others had done, said, asserted before them.. that is their data source.. the adventists (william miller in particular) used bible passages and also interpretations of certain perceived prophecies in books written by others--before him.. we are not talking facts.

  we are talking surmise, conjecture, guesswork and preconceived supposition.. none of these are facts!

  the bible, as we all have come to regretfully acknowledge, is itself an estimate of things said and done which was first oral storytelling!.

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  JW's are always looking for a 'sign'. They get giddy when something really bad happens and point out how that was prophecied to happen. The culture is "when it's bad for everyone else , it's good for JW's."
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  Foreign language field - the curious Watchtower cutback?

  by slimboyfat in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  most of the recent watchtower cutbacks can be explained as money saving exercises: closing branches, paperback books, fewer pages in the magazines, sending bethelites home and so on.. but a few different posters have reported that the watchtower society are also cutting back on the foreign field ministry.

  for many years foreign language congregations have been a major source of growth for the watchtower in many lands.

  so why would they choose to scale it down?.

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  I know that Jah and the 'loving' GB love the English speaking JW's more than all others. That is why the 'new' NWT is only available in English.

  I wonder how our non-English congregations feel about the 'loving' provision of the new grey Bible. I hope they will now see that the WTBTS is an American religion.

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  Why doesn't the GB come out with specific rules on counting time

  by trujw in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  i think we all know the reason millions of less hours.

  when i was in we went to a rv by the kingdom hall then drove 30 minutes out to the country to knock on a door then back to the city for one more door.

  god must be so proud!

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  Ever notice that when talking to 'pioneeers' that the first and most important topic is; "How are you doing with your time?" When I was an elder and we would meet with the pioneers once a year, it was mostly about how we could help the pioneers to "Get there time in".

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  If the Watchtower Society is truly god's only earthly chosen organization then god surely must be an idiot !

  by Finkelstein in

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  2. beliefs

  that is cannibalistic.

  from page 23 of the march 22, 1974 awake!

  that is cannibalistic.

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  Hey SFPW,

  There is nothing more horrific, grotesque, and terrible than the vicious murder of a beautiful dream/ideal by a gang of ruthless FACTS!

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  FALSE PREMISES = FACTS (in the world of the Governing Body)

  by Terry in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  when the governing body of jehovah's witnesses made chronology their focus they built on what others had done, said, asserted before them.. that is their data source.. the adventists (william miller in particular) used bible passages and also interpretations of certain perceived prophecies in books written by others--before him.. we are not talking facts.

  we are talking surmise, conjecture, guesswork and preconceived supposition.. none of these are facts!

  the bible, as we all have come to regretfully acknowledge, is itself an estimate of things said and done which was first oral storytelling!.

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  The mountains and valleys appeared after the Flood as the earth dried up and wrinkled like a raisin or prune. Remember! lol
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  FALSE PREMISES = FACTS (in the world of the Governing Body)

  by Terry in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  when the governing body of jehovah's witnesses made chronology their focus they built on what others had done, said, asserted before them.. that is their data source.. the adventists (william miller in particular) used bible passages and also interpretations of certain perceived prophecies in books written by others--before him.. we are not talking facts.

  we are talking surmise, conjecture, guesswork and preconceived supposition.. none of these are facts!

  the bible, as we all have come to regretfully acknowledge, is itself an estimate of things said and done which was first oral storytelling!.

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  Hi Terry,

  I was also a conscience objector during Viet Nam. I got hold of a lawyer named JB Tietz, he worked with Covington during WWII.

  I received a 2 year hospital 'sentence' and 3 additional years of probation.

  Anyway, commenting on your blog of False Premise, didn't you know that the earth was relatively flat prior to the Flood? For proof,

  just write to the WTBTS and they will 'convince you'! I'll read your book too.

  eyeuse2badub