Posts by eyeuse2badub

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Seen smoking a cigarette

by Godsendconspirator in

i won't say i got "caught" because that would imply i was keeping my habit hidden.

i'm tired of constantly doing that with these guys.

yesterday, my friend and i were waiting for some people and decided to smoke a cigarette to pass the time.

eyeuse2badub

Hey Godsendconspirator,

"Abstain from smoke!" Any "scripture" that really and actually forbids smoking? Didn't think so!

Anyway, occasionally, my, still-in, wife will complain to me about my smoking a very occasional cigar. (She doesn't tell anyone else that I have the occasional cigar) I've tried to convince her that it's only a matter of time before jehober reveals to the GB (sooooon) the 'nu-lite' regarding the WT "no smoking" policy. It will soooooooon become a "matter of conscience". After all, I only smoke a "FRACTION" of the cigar. I would never think of smoking or consuming the "whole" cigar. "Research" (lol) has discovered that the real nicotine containing "brown cigar cells" are only carried in the butt of the cigar. By not 'consuming (eating)' the butt of the cigar after you have smoked it all the way down to the butt, you have not violated the Holy Governing Body command to; "Abstain from smoke".

If you have any questions, please talk to the local elders as they will be able to direct you to the Smoking Liaison Committee in your area. The Smoking Liaison Committee will be able to ~~tell you exactly what to do~~ assist you on matters of conscience.

just saying!

eyeuse2badub

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Ever tried "Dry January"? Join Ms. OM & me for a 30 day liver vacation!

by Open mind in

jw
friends

there are a few things i picked up from watchtowerism that i still find value in.

(although, i could have easily picked them up elsewhere.).

one of these is the 30-day test to abstain from all booze.. .

eyeuse2badub

Any Vodka will do, but I like Grey Goose as my "pre-meeting and mid meeting" drink of choice. The edge is off and you can really zone out!

just saying!

eyeuse2badub

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Ever tried "Dry January"? Join Ms. OM & me for a 30 day liver vacation!

by Open mind in

jw
friends

there are a few things i picked up from watchtowerism that i still find value in.

(although, i could have easily picked them up elsewhere.).

one of these is the 30-day test to abstain from all booze.. .

eyeuse2badub

I occasionally go to a meeting on Sunday with my, still-in, wife in order to help her fend off the inevitable, "Tell Steve we missed him" from the friends at the hall. However, since learning ttatt several years ago, I have (need) a few shots of Vodka to help me zone out at the meeting. I mean, the crap that will be discussed at any meeting on Sunday is the same crap I've been hearing for 58+ years. I get a bit nauseated during the WT study, not from the Vodka but from hearing those friggin' parroted 'comments' from otherwise fairly intelligent people. Vodka is my choice as a "pre-meeting" drink only because it has a very non detectable alcohol smell. (I don't really want to offend the friends, just get through the ordeal) I also have a box of those curiously strong Altoid breath mints. lol

Unfortunately, the last 6 months or so, I have found it most helpful to take one of those small, air plane size, bottles of Vodka with me to "down" between the 'talk' and WT. Those tiny bottles fit nicely in the briefcase. So about 3-4 shots over a 3 hour period really helps.

Maybe I'll not got to the Sunday meeting for a month so I can 'dry out'.

Just saying!

eyeuse2badub

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Memories. .. share the earliest or most favorite childhood memory

by MissFit in

my daughter tells me that experts say children tend to have false memories.

apparently their brain tends to fill things in that may not be totally accurate.. i refuse to believe that my favorite and comforting memory might not be true.

so here is to fond memories real or not.. the earliest memory i have is being put in a crib at a preschool.

eyeuse2badub

Christmas, Halloween and other holidays with our big families. My dad had 8 siblings and my mom had 12 siblings. Dozens of cousins to play with. God those were very happy days, memorable occasions!

And then one day when I was 6 years old, a couple of JW's came to our door and my mom fell for it. The next 55+ years were spent in JW land with hardly any 'truly' happy times (even though JW's are the happiest people on earth) and no big family get together occasions because, of course, the family was 'worldly'. Damn!

just saying!

eyeuse2badub

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What are your new year's resolutions?

by rebel8 in

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friends

do you have any?

eyeuse2badub

To continue my, so far, successful fade and to help my family to do the same!

just saying!

eyeuse2badub

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Surprise ! Surprise ! 2015 Arrives and NO Armageddon or World's " End " - Go Figure

by flipper in

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friends

i guess 99.9 % of ex-jw's here could have predicted as much .

armageddon didn't happen in 1914. it didn't happen in 1925. it didn't happen in 1975. and it did not happen in 2014. since the wt society first predicted a world's end when their organization started in 1879 - 126 years have passed which according to any dictionary in any human language 126 years comprises of 4 separate generations each totaling 30 years each.

plus 6 years into a 5th generation.

eyeuse2badub

What amazes me most about 'life time dubs' is their almost unanimous unwillingness to even broach the subject of the failure---no big A. It's as if they are afraid to speak about their deep disappointment. Because they are afraid. I know from my own experience that there exists much bitterness toward the wtbts for it's convoluted bs that must be accepted as "troof." or else. Geez we were stupid! Well at least we have awakened and are free at last.

Happy new year to all and a very prosperous rest of your life!

just saying!

eyeuse2badub

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Personal Revelations and Ah-ha moments while reading Combating Cult Mind Control

by Blackfalcon98 in

hi everyone, i'm nearing the end of steven hassan's first book: combating cult mind control.

as i was on the chapter which describes 'mini interventions', i had an ah-ha moment regarding wtbs and the stance on two matters which awoken doubts in me earlier:.

college enrollment (on campus housing vs. off campus housing, etc.).

eyeuse2badub

If something is repeated over and over and over and over and over..........again, it 'becomes' truth! At least to those who hear it over and over and over and over again! That's why dubs have soooooo many meetings.

One day, many years ago, a Mormon man once told me, (I was out in service) that JW's have a core of only 75 scriptures that they use about 85% of the time their literature to 'prove' and reinforce their JW teachings. I never did an exact study on his comment, but I'm pretty sure the Mormon church did. If you notice, it is the same scriptures used over and over and over again. Once you 'wake up' you see a lot of things very clearly!

just saying!

eyeuse2badub

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urban legends

by chirac in

dear brothers ans sisters.

i just received this mail in french..(thank you google to have translates it)..this mail is from a still inside brother who encourage to come back.

do you think its a fact or an other urban legend.

eyeuse2badub

Damn

I mean doesn't the President of the United States have enough important crap on his mind? We can only hope he doesn't read it (if indeed he really got it). He would really be confused then!

just saying!

eyeuse2badub

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2nd and 3rd Genners -- Did the passing of the 1st/2nd Gen. cause doubts for you?

by Apognophos in

i can't discuss my family history here in detail while i'm still fading, but suffice to say that i'm a third-generation witness.

my grandparents' generation of witnesses expected the end to come in the middle of the 20th century.

they led spartan lives and largely went without having kids, as they awaited the imminent new system.

eyeuse2badub

I'm 'only' 2nd gen dub but have 4 children 6 grand children and 1 great grand child. They are all dubs--sort of.

My wife and I were very good examples (elder, pioneer, never miss a meeting) of being 'good dubs', raising our children in da troof. Now, my wife, my children, and grandchildren see that I'm no longer a real dub (since really accepting ttatt). At first, as I began to 'fade', they were all a bit shocked. But now that they see me much happier, much less rigid, more relaxed, having infinitely more time for them, they have accepted the 'new' me and i truly believe that they like the 'new and improved' me much better. 3 cheers for freedom and happy new year to all my fellow improved ex-dubs!

just saying!

eyeuse2badub

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Men are not looking forward to becoming Elders or Ministerial Servants

by Hidden-Window in

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friends

i have noticed an apparently increasing number of men who are not interested in becoming ministerial servants or elders.

i also know of some that have voluntarily stepped down (which is my case) for no obvious solid reason.. i remember, during my teenage years or even during my twenties, the brothers were always looking forward to being appointed... although many still do, i have noticed there are many others with whom you do not know what the deal is.. since there is no freedom of speech within the organization, we remain in the dark about the motives and desires of everybody else.

i attend a congregation with only two ministerial servants, while it is full of men who do not seem to be willing to do more.. it is hard to tell exactly what is going on, since honesty is not possible while you are inside, but i am starting to think that more and more are becoming disillusioned.... .

eyeuse2badub

I was appointed as an elder in 1972 at the age of 25 and served until 1980 when I decided I had too many questions and my life was going nowhere. I laid low for a decade and a half until 1995 when my eyes were really opened with the release of 'this generation' 2.0. Probably from that time forward I became an unbeliever in my heart but not yet an full blown apostate.

So with a divided and troubled heart, I 'reached out' once again for that 'fine work' of being an elder. Subconsciously, I wanted to see if "Holy Spirit" would appoint a man that was an unbeliever. Yep, there was a 'need' in our congregation, so the "Holy Spirit" made an exception for me and I was appointed. It was a miracle I tell you!

I spent another decade being a 'voice of reason' to our BOE and a contrarian with the CO and other hard line elders. I asked difficult questions at elder meetings and brought up some of the very gross Bible accounts during casual discussions with other jw's and would ask, "Why do you think Jehober would have that account recorded?" Man is was fun for a decade then I "stepped down" to persue sanity.

just saying!

eyeuse2badub