Posts by eyeuse2badub

for a long time, i thought pimi (physically in, mentally in) jws were unique in their inability to simply type and read the latest "google" news results about "jehovah's witnesses " or "watchtower".

however, it appears it is not uncommon for a large portion of the population purposefully to avoid facts...on purpose!

"why do people avoid facts that could help them?.

eyeuse2badub

"It's easier to fool people than it is to convince them that they've been fooled!"

Mark Twain

just saying!

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"Million(s) now requesting will never show"

by eyeuse2badub in

j f rutherford in all his wisdom hysterically, stupidly, and boastfully proclaimed the now slogan;.

"millions now living will never die".

donny trump in all his wisdom hysterically, stupidly, and of course boastfully proclaimed that a million supporters requested tickets for his much ballyhooed rally in tulsa!

eyeuse2badub

@nowwhat?

So bunker Biden is a better choice?

Bunker Biden???You are not saying that with a straight face are you?

@Finklestein

Hold up the bible and bullshit a little and watch the public perk up its eyes.

Who walked across the street just for a photo op holding up a Bible?

@RubaDub

A remnant (6,200) did show up from all tribes, states, countries, tongues and peoples.

Any 'new light' for the remnant?

just saying!

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"Million(s) now requesting will never show"

by eyeuse2badub in

j f rutherford in all his wisdom hysterically, stupidly, and boastfully proclaimed the now slogan;.

"millions now living will never die".

donny trump in all his wisdom hysterically, stupidly, and of course boastfully proclaimed that a million supporters requested tickets for his much ballyhooed rally in tulsa!

eyeuse2badub

J F Rutherford in all his wisdom hysterically, stupidly, and boastfully proclaimed the now slogan;

"Millions now living will never die"

Donny tRump in all his wisdom hysterically, stupidly, and of course boastfully proclaimed that a million supporters requested tickets for his much ballyhooed rally in Tulsa! Here's a new slogan:

"A million now requesting will never show"

just saying!

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Why do Jehovah's Witnesses avoid examining their own religion? An interesting read from Scientific American Magazine.

by Balaamsass2 in

for a long time, i thought pimi (physically in, mentally in) jws were unique in their inability to simply type and read the latest "google" news results about "jehovah's witnesses " or "watchtower".

however, it appears it is not uncommon for a large portion of the population purposefully to avoid facts...on purpose!

"why do people avoid facts that could help them?.

eyeuse2badub

Jw's avoid examining their own religion because it's against their religion to do so! They could be df'ed for learning the truth!

just saying!

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Attorney General Bill Barr...what do you think of him?

by minimus in

jw
friends

the us attorney general appears to be a polarizing figure.

he certainly is not like his predecessor from alabama, jeff sessions .

barr seems to speak his mind and i really don’t think that he has a problem sticking up for what he believes in.. i like him but i also liked sessions.

eyeuse2badub

Overstuffed tRump puppet. Full of bluster with no back bone! Used to be respected but like everyone else who comes into contact with tRump---------reputation destroyed!

just saying!

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700 million laundered funds by Watchtower to avoid sex lawsuit payment?

by Terry in

based on a daily telegraph article : jehovah's witnesses accused of selling off assets and moving cash to avoid sex abuse compensation

watchtower has 800 charities in australia and australian law says they don't have to report assets below 1 million .

doesn't this imply watchtower can have in excess of 700 million laundered funds?

I think that the wt organization has very real financial issues and troublesome concerns that need to be seriously addressed or they may just go out of business! When you're looking at financial ruin, you do whatever, even shady, underhanded shit to try and recover!

Would be a damn shame if wt goes out of business-------NOT!

just saying!

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Why people chose a certain religion!

by eyeuse2badub in

not sure if i posted this before but it's so damn interesting, i'll do it again!.

by yoginder sikand.

03 april, 2012

eyeuse2badub

Not sure if I posted this before but it's so damn interesting, I'll do it again!

By Yoginder Sikand

03 April, 2012

Throughout the world, the overwhelming majority of people who believe in, or otherwise feel emotionally linked to, a particular religion are those who have been born into it. This fact has crucial implications for how most ‘believers’ come to develop notions of what they regard as ‘true’ and, conversely, ‘false’, religion.

For almost all people, their religious faith is something they inherit from their immediate families. From infancy itself, they are carefully socialized by their parents and other close relatives into accepting the religious doctrines, beliefs and rituals of their families. At this stage in their lives, children are most susceptible to the influence of their parents. Unable to think for themselves about matters such as religion, they naturally accept whatever is taught to them by their parents, whom they implicitly trust. Being wholly dependent—psychologically, emotionally and materially—on their parents, they automatically imbibe the religious beliefs and prejudices of the latter. This is how blind, unquestioning belief in the religion that they inherit at birth becomes so deeply-rooted in most people as to make it almost impossible for to shake off at a later stage in life. Along with this, in many cases children are also socialized by their parents into believing that their religion alone is true and that all others are false, impure or deviant. Naturally, all these religious prejudices—about the supposed superiority of their own religion and the putative falsity of all other religions—that they inherit at this impressionable age remain with many people deep into adulthood and last till they die.

The fact of the matter, then, is that what almost all ‘believers’ —irrespective of religion—passionately regard as ultimate religious truth is simply the collection of religious beliefs, rituals and prejudices that they unthinkingly inherit from their parents, and which, through very effective indoctrination, they are trained into blindly believing as Absolute Truth. This means that the vast majority of the world’s Muslims, Christians, Hindus, Buddhists, Jews, Sikhs, ‘pagans’ and so on are such only because they happened to have been born into families linked to the particular religion that they grew up to believe in. If almost all ‘believers’ regard their respective religions as the best among all or as the truest or as most fully manifesting the Ultimate Truth, it is almost inevitably only because this is what they have been reared into believing by their parents from a very young age itself. Such faith in the superiority of their inherited religion is rarely, if ever, based on a careful, objective, unbiased and neutral examination of all religious, including their own.

There is more to the reality of the inherited nature of notions of religious truth that most ‘believers’ adhere than this. Every religion is susceptible to multiple interpretations, and this explains the existence of fierce sectarian divisions within each of them. Each sect within a larger religious tradition claims to monopolize religious truth in quite the same way as most religious traditions themselves do. Here, too, membership in a particular religious sect is almost always based on one’s birth in it and consequent socialization into its doctrines from a young age. Almost inevitably, a person is a Sunni or a Shia Muslim, and, then, a Deobandi Sunni or a Barelvi Sunni or an Ithna Ashari Shia or an Ismaili Shia, not on the basis of conscious, informed choice made in adulthood, when alone such a choice can be made, or as a result of a careful comparative study of the competing doctrines of these rival Islamic sects, but simply because he or she was born into a particular sect whose beliefs he or she is then socialized into believing represents the ‘true Islam’—which, in his or her mind, is equated with Absolute Truth. The same principle holds in the case of sectarian divisions in other religious communities, too.

What does all this mean for our understanding of religious truth? Quite simply, it indicates that for the vast majority of us, what we fervently regard as ‘true religion’ (which a very great many of us spend our entire lives ardently believing in, defending, and passionately seeking to convert ‘non-believers’ into accepting, through persuasion or even, sometimes, coercion) is simply the bundle of religious beliefs, rituals, traditions and prejudices of the families we happen to have been born into and which, through no fault of our own, we have been made to believe represents Absolute Truth—even if it really doesn’t!

That most people simply inherit from their families their understandings of what they regard as Ultimate Truth indicates another key aspect of their religiosity: a fundamental inability or unwillingness to search, think and experience the Truth for themselves. Being effectively drilled into accepting the religious beliefs of their families as representing the Ultimate Truth, they see no reason to search for such Truth, for, so they think, they already possess it! So effective is this indoctrination in most cases that to even contemplate such a search and to think of going beyond their inherited religion comes to be regarded as a dangerous lack of faith that supposedly merits Divine wrath. Little wonder, then, that relatively few people are able to escape the totalitarian religious brainwashing that they are subjected to as children, and relatively fewer are courageous enough to even question if their inherited religion is truly the perfect embodiment of Ultimate Truth or the Divine Will that its unthinking votaries insist it is.

Yoginder Sikand is a regular contributor to Countercurrents and the author of several books on Islam-related issues in India.

just saying!

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Gerrit Loesch video from this week's meeting

by neat blue dog in

he talks about how a group of 5,000 broke away from the organization due to distrust of government agents infiltrating the jws.

they weren't regarded as apostates, just distrustful.

he uses phrases like "their leader" and "his elders", and how they had a meeting with the governing body and made the decision for all these thousands to reintegrate them into the jws, splitting them up among congregations.

eyeuse2badub

I watched the video with my pimi wife last night. My word's to her afterwards were along the lines of; "if this is truly jehober's organization and he is safe guarding them from satan, then why in the hell did he allow 'spies' to infiltrate the organization in the first place? And you gotta know that not all those that left came back to the organization,"

Silence followed!

just saying!