Posts by robhic

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September AWAKE

by stillajwexelder in

got the september awake tonight.

marked on the front cover special issue in orange letters.

the title is " is there a creator".

robhic

ooops! Forgot! Its Satan that caused cancer, diabetes, arthritis, schizophrenia, congenital blindness and alzheimers and turned the mosquitos into nasty bloodsuckers! LOL

That bastard!!!

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HOW could I be so stupid?

by rassillon in

in light of the upcomming study of the revelation book.. i thought i would go over it to prepare my self so i wouldn't blow chunks......i don't think i will be able to help it.. *** re chap.

1 p. 8 revelationits happy climax!

searching out divine secrets.

robhic

An even stronger reason for publishing this book is the need to keep up-to-date with present truth.

Never having been a JW, it always amazes me when I see statements like this. How in the world do they explain or justify using the limiter "present" when talking about something that, to be of any value, must be absolute?

Sure some things you'd expect to be true within limits. During winter it's true that it might be cold outside and not true during summer. You expect that "truth" to be transitory. But how can something supposed to be an absolute, non-varying "truth" (like the bible or other similar thing should be) be "present?"

Does that mean that at some past time or even in some future time, the present truth might become false? How do they explain this?

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a question

by pallemar in

what part of the bible, goes against, wathtower doctrins?

i can gues, here is a lot.

is here a homepage with it?

robhic

While not a direct answer for your question, try this website for some eye-opening things: http://www.qwotes.info/index.htm

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Is Jesus YOUR Mediator??

by Lady Liberty in

just sent this to a friend.

thought i would post it here as well, for any of you who have never seen this, or who may need it in the future when talking to friends and family still in.. sincerely,.

lady liberty.

robhic

Where do they base the idea that Jesus is the mediator of only a part of the believers? Even if we are to suppose that only a part will go to heaven does that necessarily imply that the rest do not have the same mediator? Even if they are supposedly staying on earth?

Christ, though, is the "mediator of a new covenant" between Jehovah and spiritual Israel, the "Israel of God" that will serve as kings and priests in heaven with Jesus.

I am certainly no scholar of WT-speak, but from the part above, it looks like they're taking "Spiritual Israel" and doing their damndest to twist it into the implied meaning of "kings and priests in heaven with Jesus" = Spiritual Israel = JW annointed.

Yeah, I can see that. Clear as mud.

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The Bible: How and by whom was the bible put together?

by evergreen in

yes, i know the old testament made up of the law(torah) and the prophets were written and handed down through time and kept by the jews,as can be seen to this day.

who put it together?

after all , wasn,t it the catholic church that kept the writings in the latin untill the time of the reformation, whereby it was only then translated into other languages?

robhic

The book of Revelation nearly didn't make it into these canonical books.

And you have to wonder who, after slogging thru all this craziness, decided "Yeah, I think the stories of mass destruction and beasts with talking horns on their heads should be included!" <OK, now where's my pipe and hemp?!>

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WALKING THE WATCHTOWER TIGHTROPE

by Terry in

ever go to a circus and watch the tightrope walkers go from one end of the stretched line to the other balancing precariously along the way?.

it is only compelling to watch because one good slip could plunge the hapless performer to their doom!

the balancing act, then; becomes a question of getting from point a to point b without dying!

robhic

Time is short. It always has been! Armageddon is in our generation. Just like all the generations before us.

Terry, insightful as always. I thought this one just jumped out at me for being such a simple statement but obviously it isn't comprehended by most members. " Just like all the generations before us." The end is soon, just like for the last 100 or so years! Could it be more clear?

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What's in a Name?

by robhic in

in reading a post above, this thought hit me:i know nimrod's name in hebrew means "let's rebel".. .

i've seen this same type statement numerous times.

"so-and-so's name, which means xxxxx ..." and amazingly the person's name means or describes what they just did (see quote above).

robhic

Didn't anyone here name their children according to a conveyed meaning ?
It's no wonder people think god has a 'first name' jehovah
Names are commonly given with purpose in meaning, in non-jw circles anyway

While not totally synchronous with the above post, I couldn't help myself. It's an old one but pretty funny:

An Indian Chief is questioned by his son how he got his name.

The chief tells him that the first thing he would see upon leaving the birthing tent of the new baby would be its name.

He then continues: "As I left the tent on the morning your sister was born, I saw a beautiful deer leaping thru the forest, so I named her 'Leaping Fawn'."

On the day your brother was born, I watched a buffalo run across the plains and so named your brother 'Running Buffalo'."

Does that answer your question "Two Dogs Copulating?"

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What's in a Name?

by robhic in

in reading a post above, this thought hit me:i know nimrod's name in hebrew means "let's rebel".. .

i've seen this same type statement numerous times.

"so-and-so's name, which means xxxxx ..." and amazingly the person's name means or describes what they just did (see quote above).

robhic

Holy cow! I didn't realize such a simple question would generate such complex and technical answers. You people are too smart for me.

I think I see what you're getting at, but I had no idea it could get so complicated. I just figured it was the Israelites naming some guy who had a penchant for breaking stuff something like "He who breaketh stuff," but after the fact so as to make their fairy-tale book more interesting.

Great minds think alike, check out my old thread with same title: what's in a name?

Pete, sorry I missed this one. And thanks to all for such insightful answers.

Robert

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What's in a Name?

by robhic in

in reading a post above, this thought hit me:i know nimrod's name in hebrew means "let's rebel".. .

i've seen this same type statement numerous times.

"so-and-so's name, which means xxxxx ..." and amazingly the person's name means or describes what they just did (see quote above).

robhic

In reading a post above, this thought hit me:

I know Nimrod's name in Hebrew means "Let's rebel".

I've seen this same type statement numerous times. "So-and-so's name, which means XXXXX ..." And amazingly the person's name means or describes what they just did (see quote above). Co-incidence? Hmmm...

Did this person already have this name and just started doing what his name implies, or did the goat farmers that wrote the bible happen to make the name of the person they were writing about just mean the same? (Did that make sense?)

Like what came first -- the chicken (aka "She whom layeth the eggs") or the egg?

Inquiring minds want to know!

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Would a Father really destroy His children for disobeying and arrogance?

by Judas I. in

even go so far as to torment them forever?

how could that ever be justified?.

would that be also admitting failure as a father by resorting to that?.

robhic

According to Christian doctrine, we get punished for being born "sinful," even though we cannot help how we are born. It's doctrines like this one that often make me wonder if the advent of monotheism thousands of years ago was just about the worst thing that could have happened to the human race.

That sums it all up pretty nicely and simply. We (are supposed to) get punished for something not of our choice. Is this the way the real world works? Would your parents punish you (excessively, too, I might add) for something you didn't do? Or have you held accountable for something your older sibling did years before you were born?

"Oh, BTW, Johnny, we're gonna punish you very, very severely for the rest of your life for some stuff your older brother did about 10 years before you were born. OK?"

I don't think any "normal" parent would even have this absurd idea cross their mind!

And religions in general being the worst thing that could have happened to the human race is a concise summation of a universal truth (OK,at least in my opinion..). Very well put.