this continues as pt.2 of: http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/12/132920/2365238/post.ashx#2365238.
william miller began his preaching reluctantly.
he had no formal training and he was self-educated.
You have explained why that girlfriend from the 90's stuck with me for 3 long years- I tried to get her to leave, but she kept coming back and persuading me to get back together with her. Now I have a name for it!
Wow! Your girlfriend was a Millerite?
there is a lot of 1914, how jw's (then known as bible studends) anticipated it was a marked year.
ever since things are going bad, wars, wars and wars, food shortages, pestilences and earthquakes.
here the speaker mentions that earthquakes have increased tremendously since 1914. oh oh oh where did he get it?
You might find this useful:
http://wwwneic.cr.usgs.gov/neis/general/handouts/increaseinearthquakes.html
And this:
Watchtower 12/1/93 page 6 paragraph 2 Natural Disasters-Is God Responsible?
In this regard, note what the book Natural Disasters-Acts of God or Acts of Man? has to say: "There is no evidence that the climatological mechanisms associated with droughts, floods and cyclones are changing. And no geologist is claiming that the earth movements associated with earthquakes, volcanoes and tsunami (earthquake waves) are becoming more violent." Similarly, the book Earthshock observes: "The rocks of every continent contain a record of innumerable major and minor geological events, every one of which would be a catastrophic disaster to mankind if they occurred today-and it is scientifically certain that such events will occur again and again in the future." In other words, the earth and its dynamic forces have more or less remained the same throughout the ages. Hence, whether or not some statistics indicate an increase of some forms of geologic or other activity, the earth has not become uncontrollably violent in recent times. (bold lines mine)
*** ssb song 105 hail jehovahs firstborn!
1. lets hail jehovahs firstborn.
made known jehovahs worth.. .
If only Jesus wouldn't have created Satan, what did Jesus need him for anyway??
Scapegoat...
well i just got back from the memorial, after being dragged along somewhat reluctantly.
during the talk, one statement in particular caught my attention which i hadn't heard previously.
the speaker was explaining why probably no-one there should be partaking of the matzo and wine, because on the night of the passover jesus began selecting his 144000 heavenly co-rulers starting with the 11 apostles who were present - and that from then on, most of jesus' other followers just observed and did not partake, recognizing that they were of the earthly class.
His warning is against those "unworthy" ones that might partake ...
I don't know if this has been mentioned before, but this line (above) reminded me.
I was raised catholic. Catholics can receive their "communion" as much as once a day and can do this every, single day. Communion is the 'communion wafer,' an unleavened, flat disc of bread about 1 inch in diameter or the size of an American 25 cent coin.
You take it on your tongue or in recent years they allow you to take it in your hand and place it on your own tongue instead of letting a priest do it. You can also get a little taste of wine, too, if you want. (Also a newer allowance.)
BUT ... if you have sinned and not been forgiven by a priest through confession you are not supposed to receive communion. It's a sort of "honor system."
If you take communion when you are in a state of sin (I always hated that term) you commit yet another, worse sin. Or at least it compounds the others.
So that, too, may explain the "unworthy" ones noted.
to become a saint.
seems a nun, who had parkinsons disease, prayed to the "dead" pope and he cured her!!
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I was raised catholic by a religious mother and accepting (poor guy) father. Now my mother, in turn, had a zealous, borderline crazy (she spent her time on the couch...) mother.
This woman was nuts about (literally and figuratively) the catholic saint, Saint Theresa of Avila. She had literal shrines in her home, a grotto-like deal in her back yard, bunches of books, pictures, holy cards, the whole 9 yards. I always thought it was sick.
Statues and paintings were everywhere (I swear the eyes were following me! ) and she had what is known as a first-class relic.
A 1st class relic is a big time relic. This one consisted of a pocket snuff can-size silver case that had, under glass, a small fragment of bone. HUMAN BONE! Yes it was creepy holding a container with part of a dead body in it!!!
But this was OK because it was none other than St. Theresa of Avila. Funny but that didn't make me feel any better... What a strange thing to show a small (I guess I was probably under 10) child. "Here son, come look at the dead person's bone fragment." ARGH!
Now this thing was highly valued, both religiously and monetarily. When grandmaw died (I fully expected to see her be carried away by that damn St. Theresa!) some in-family squabbles took place and the ole St. Theresa relic ended up being given to a local church. That solved the problem.
But nothing could guarantee me getting a major rise out of my mother (when I became old enough to outrun her) like saying the great St Theresa relic was probably a pork chop bone-fragment the monks (it had originally come from a monastery somewhere) had picked up after supper one evening and decided to make some $$$ off of. It also made me wonder what else did the monks have to make relics out of.
Man, she could run (My mother, not St. Theresa).
ok, in reading another thread, i came across this:.
i'll never understand why i let them convince me that something so visible as "armageddon" happened "invisibly"?
when did this happen?
OK, I promise I am not saying or asking this to try to make anyone feel silly, but did they really write stuff like "The World Has Ended..." in a magazine that still existed in a world still existing and being read by a live person? Did they really do that?
I am not nor ever was a JW but this seems just so utterly ridiculous it makes me wonder how, after writing it, the writer didn't just shake his head, crumple up the paper and say "Oh, wow! What was I thinking?!?! That was just too stupid."
And people actually believed that the world had ended? Seems that after a quick look around at all the same old, same old and reassuring yourself that nothing had changed, the phrase "the world has ended" would have made you run away screaming.
It's absolutely amazing (and scary) at the control an organization can have on otherwise normal, intelligent people.
to become a saint.
seems a nun, who had parkinsons disease, prayed to the "dead" pope and he cured her!!
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Don't knock it. Those saints work in some crazy ways! Why just the other day ...
this is the first time, that i write here.
i'm from dk, so forgive me, because my english is'nt always quite good.
i have often read in here, and it's a great web-site.
This is the first time, that I write here. I'm from DK, so forgive me, because my english is'nt always quite good.
English isn't always quite good? Wow, if I could speak or write another language half as good as you managed to do, I would be very satisfied!
There are more people with English as their main language that don't write as well as you did than I would care to think about. I wouldn't worry.
that is what 1 cor.
13:4 says......... yet exodus.........says jehovah is a "jealous god".......and what you do could really piss him off!
you have the ability to make god mad..........wow!
Interesting. Yet one more example of love = death under certain circumstances.
this is real doublespeak: watchtower april 1, 2007 pg 21 par.
1 "you must not let people call you leaders-- you have only one leader.
matt 23:10 .
Yes, the white tie and that shiny silk (polyester?) shirt are a bit odd.
