Posts by Maverick

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Try to See Elders as Jehovah Sees Them

by jgnat in

wt march 15, 2003 april 27 study, try to see others as jehovah sees them

the theme of this weeks article is to disbelieve the evidence and always trust jehovahs man.

the logic goes something like this:.

Maverick

Stephanus hit it right on the head. Another case of false logic. Man makes error, man picked by God, God can't make errors, then man did not err. It follows right on through, just like a pretzel! Maverick

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Submitting a DA letter and walking away?

by Jourles in

i have been perusing through the many boe documents i have recently received and noticed something interesting.

regarding ones who disassociate themselves, there have been many discussions on this board where people tell others not write a letter as you are giving away any legal footing you may have against the society.

well, it appears that there are two routes you can take without officially getting da'd, according to the society's own documents.

Maverick

True, ignorance is no excuss, but duplicity is! The claim is that I was lied to and that I acted in good faith and they were deceitful. Gumby, ignorance on the law is usually applied when the accussed is standing before the STATE not some corporation.

My claim is that the Corporation surperseded their realigious subpartner. I never knowingly made a vow to any corporation. This corporation inserted itself between me and my vow to God. That was my reasoning. They, on the other hand, do not want to go there at all. They do not want the business to enter into the picture. So they changed my status and got rid of me. And then they could put whatever spin on it they wanted. The results to them is the same...neutralize this person and move on. I understand self-promotion, so I made lots of copies and blitzed the whole county with my BN letter. Made a big stink! I feel if I had just sent in the letter they would have DF'd me and told me Tough Shit pal! But because I went public they were careful how they handled it. If you use the right approch you can get out of any contract, I know, I have done it!

In summary, I think as J-duds we were trained to roll over and take it. J-duds give in too easily, they rat themselves out at the drop of a hat. Just because they say it, don't make it so! Make them work for it, and if I've learned one thing in my time as a Dud, NEVER TELL THEM ANYTHING THEY CAN HURT YOU WITH! Maverick

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What does it take to become an elder?

by sandy in

a question for some of you x-elders or current elders what is the process to become an elder?.

are there questions like when you get baptized?

has anybody here ever turned down an offer to be an elder?

Maverick

Hey Minimus, what Hall did you go to? I don't remember the singing and chanting stuff. Those meetings always had a hard edge to them, like a corporate meeting when someone is going to get his butt chewed and you hoped it was not you. Even the jokes were forced. If the Brother had a 'higher' rank, you laughed. I always kepted my month shut. I had a young wife I want to get 'back' to. Some...MOST of these guys had no sex life or something! I always begged off from being on any judical commitees. I didn't want to know that stuff! Maverick

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Submitting a DA letter and walking away?

by Jourles in

i have been perusing through the many boe documents i have recently received and noticed something interesting.

regarding ones who disassociate themselves, there have been many discussions on this board where people tell others not write a letter as you are giving away any legal footing you may have against the society.

well, it appears that there are two routes you can take without officially getting da'd, according to the society's own documents.

Maverick

Dear Jourles: I didn't mean to take over this thread. How are you doing? Keep us updated on your situation.

I was never at Olympus,(Brooklyn). I am a high-end specialty contractor. I have to read contracts and look for the loopholes to CYA.

Keep it mind what I said before, the J-dud Masters talk out of both sides of their mouths. Officially, I am free to be me. But the 'word' went out fast through the unoffical J-dud media, (gossip) that I have horns and a pitchfork! I am well loved by my female admirers and respected by a few of the brothers so I get all kinds of inside crap on the local J-dud Masters. What I am saying is the duds will treat you like they are told to treat you regardless. God himself could vouch for you and the duds would not listen if the locals said different. Maverick

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A new book on the JW's by Hartman

by Jerry Bergman in

psychological terror

question: who is accusing jehovah`s witnesses of psychological terror?.

answer: those people are no friends of jehovah`s witnesses.

Maverick

Wonderful logic Alan and SF. So basically what is being said is that the 'apostacy' being spoken of is the failing away or standing back from the Governingbodygod and has nothing to do with the True God at all. Do I have that right? We are all apostates of the demigods in Brooklyn? We are apostates of the big apostates. Doesn't that cancel out? How about we are not apostates and those pointy tinfoil hat, and diaper wearing androgyny in Olympus, (Brooklyn) are? Maverick

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Gangs and Dubs

by Farkel in

gangs start training their children to be gang members at the earliest possible age.

dubs start training their children to be cult members at the earliest possible age.

it is fairly easy to get into a gang.

Maverick

Hey Englishman, how about a waddle of witness? Maverick

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When is depression a good thing?

by Maverick in

jw
friends

the last five years i was a dud i suffered chronic depression.

not debilitating depression, but a low- grade constant dissatisfaction with whatever!

the one saving grace for me was my job.

Maverick

The last five years I was a Dud I suffered chronic depression. Not debilitating depression, but a low- grade constant dissatisfaction with whatever! The one saving grace for me was my job. I love what I do and have almost celebrity status in my field, both in Fla. and Mich. I firmly believe that if I had a low paying job I hated, I would have thrown a rope over a beam in the garage and hung myself in 1997.

The day I realized the J-duds were full of shit, my depression ended. It never came back. I feel good about me, my life, and my place in the universe!

I content that just as phyical pain tell the body something is wrong, mental pain tell the mind and heart the same thing. On some level my subconscience knew I was living a lie. The longer I fought it the more miserable I felt inside. And this is why so many J-duds are unhappy. Am I full of shit or what? Maverick

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Gangs and Dubs

by Farkel in

gangs start training their children to be gang members at the earliest possible age.

dubs start training their children to be cult members at the earliest possible age.

it is fairly easy to get into a gang.

Maverick

Hey Farkel, love this one as much as the milk dud thing you did man! Do I know you? I've seen your face around... Oh wait, that the PO from my old Halls face! How'd you get his picture???

I am glad the J-dud homies can't do a drive-by on me, ( would be unchristian even for them phonies). I know they'd like to though.

My ex told my daughter that she heard I was some kinda secret agent guy or something and that is why I travel a lot and have money and a concealed weapons permit. So I got a good rep. and the Duds know I'll shoot back if they tries to wack me! What a bunch of do do. I think she needs to up her dose of lithium! Maverick, of the 007.5 class.

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A new book on the JW's by Hartman

by Jerry Bergman in

psychological terror

question: who is accusing jehovah`s witnesses of psychological terror?.

answer: those people are no friends of jehovah`s witnesses.

Maverick

I liked how they danced around the true WatchTower definition of Aposatcy.( Showing signs of doubting or promoting doubt for ANY teaching or interpretation from the Society.)

Any lack of total loyalty to the Society is linked with their claim to being God's ONLY spokesmen. Doubting them means you doubt God,Your History! You Bad, Bad, People!!! Maverick

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Submitting a DA letter and walking away?

by Jourles in

i have been perusing through the many boe documents i have recently received and noticed something interesting.

regarding ones who disassociate themselves, there have been many discussions on this board where people tell others not write a letter as you are giving away any legal footing you may have against the society.

well, it appears that there are two routes you can take without officially getting da'd, according to the society's own documents.

Maverick

Good question Pete! They would not contest my grounds for claiming that I was baptized under misleading pretenses. If you have the 1988 WT BV look up 11/15 pgs. 18-19 paragraphs 16-18. This outlines the treatment of an unbaptized publisher who does not want to continue to associate with the J-duds. Now remember the J-dud Master talk out of both sides of their month. Maverick