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  Here's a view on homosexuality for you...

  by konceptual99 in

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  ...right from a pro-jw site in response to a post about the relative seriousness of homosexuality.

  all you can do is reason from the scriptures, which you appear to have done.

  homosexuality is as serious as bestiality, or adultery and fornication.

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  I think there are degrees of sins. Theft is not the same as murder.

  Homosexuality is grouped with fornication and adultery.

  
  

  Then there are other sins....

  The bible account of a woman who intervened in a fight between two men and had her hand cut off because she grabbed the attacker's balls.

  Deuteronomy 25:11

  “If two men fight together, and the wife of one draws near to rescue her husband from the hand of the one attacking him, and puts out her hand and seizes him by the genitals, then you shall cut off her hand; your eye shall not pity her.”
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  David Schafer imitates Steven Lett

  by Gorbatchov in

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  friends,.

  watch this jw.org video with "helper" david schafer.

  the topic is care for your parents.

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  Did David Schafer actually use the words "text" and "Skype" in the same sentence?
  
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  RC 2016 Leaks & Releases

  by wifibandit in

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  in an effort to reduce the number of posts, this year i will try to add links to this post.

  now, on with the leaks & releases!

  first up.... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0nzvwhflss4.

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  Maybe they're pitching a "Survivors" show to HBO.
  
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  Here's a view on homosexuality for you...

  by konceptual99 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  ...right from a pro-jw site in response to a post about the relative seriousness of homosexuality.

  all you can do is reason from the scriptures, which you appear to have done.

  homosexuality is as serious as bestiality, or adultery and fornication.

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  The Bible does condemn the practice of homosexuality in many verses, so in Judeo-Christian culture it is condemned. It makes for uncomfortable reading for those who are gay. And for those who aren't, it reinforces current beliefs.

  Across the other side of the world, Native American's, who did not have the Bible, referred to some persons as "two spirits" although this seems to refer to transgendered people first.
  

  http://www.nativepeoples.com/Native-Peoples/May-June-2014/Two-Spirit-The-Story-of-a-Movement-Unfolds/

  
  
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  Where did Jehovah go ?

  by Deleteandrestart in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  for the many years i was mentally " in " the congregation, i equated the organisation as interchangeable with the persona of jehovah, in effect whatever the organisation said or thought, that was what jehovah thought and that was what jehovah said.... it was that simple.

  so when i found out the ttatt and the cynical moves of the organisation over the years,including 1975 , the donation arrangements, the united nations, etc i was devastated and thought " where's jehovah in all of this?".

  the god who i'd poured my heart out to on many occasions and who i thought was silently listening and hearing my pleas ..... was not there , .

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  Deleteandrestart,

  I felt exactly the same way. They involve Jehovah so much in our lives that you do think of Jehovah as being your friend. Especially does the book "Draw Close to Jehovah" make this so. And then afterwards you learn JWs are a cult. And then begin the questions, you pour your heart out to God in earnest prayer but he wasn't listening. Why would God allow me to get mixed up in a cult? Where was he when I needed him the most?

  After I left the witnesses, I discovered it's OK not to have all the answers because as long as I have the freedom to look for them, I'm fine with that. It does relieve a huge burden for me.
  
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  What was there before the Big Bang?

  by Brokeback Watchtower in

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  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wpuhj98vjoa.

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hik8hj0_t9q.

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  Something to think about...

  Why does it have to be this way, everything going round something else?
  
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  What was there before the Big Bang?

  by Brokeback Watchtower in

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  2. beliefs

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wpuhj98vjoa.

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hik8hj0_t9q.

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  Before the Big Bang there was "heaven", going by the Genesis account.

  "In the beginning, God made the heavens and the Earth."

  Where was God when he made the "heavens" and which "heavens" are we talking about?
  

  If heavens meant our material universe, I suspect that the "void" we call outer space, has always existed, because the void is nothingness and you can't create nothing because it is "nothing". It's just empty "space" to put things in.

  I'm not sure about a "big crunch" because if the universe is 14 billion years old, it would take 14 billions years at the speed of light for universe to "crunch" because nothing could go faster than the speed of light.

  Several years ago, there was a space probe called COBE that detected "ripples" from the after shock of the Big Bang.

  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cosmic_microwave_background

  Just my 2c

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  Did Freddy Franz receive secret instructions from a Jewish aquaintance?

  by truthseeker in

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  i recently met a sister who told me she heard of a story that the late president of the watchtower society, mr. freddy franz, received secret instructions on how to direct the organization from a jewish acquaintance.. is this a conspiracy theory or could there be some truth to it?.

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  OK, I found an old link..

  
  http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/207251/whats-going-on-100-henry-street?page=1

  
  

  "Fred Franz played a big role as the "oracle" of the Society. " But he became a figure head to conceal that the real directing influence of the WT Society was outside of the Society. A big 6'2" Jewish man has gone everywhere with Fred Franz as his guide these last few decades. This man, Natheer Salih, was needed because Fred became blind. However, for many years people at Bethel found that Salih was more like a bodyguard. Indeed, he was more than a bodyguard, for any communication to Franz has been going through Salih, who then returns with the "answer" from Franz. This Jewish man with obvious rich tastes, big expensive rings and watches, has become the President's mouthpiece, and in effect a decision-maker although he isn't part of theGoverning Body.29 Salih was in a position to protect against an old man saying the wrong thing."

  
  

  http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/243241/who-really-faithful-discreet-natheer-salih?page=1

  
  
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  Did Freddy Franz receive secret instructions from a Jewish aquaintance?

  by truthseeker in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i recently met a sister who told me she heard of a story that the late president of the watchtower society, mr. freddy franz, received secret instructions on how to direct the organization from a jewish acquaintance.. is this a conspiracy theory or could there be some truth to it?.

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  I know it seems outrageous, but look at all the changes that have happened recently. If I had advance knowledge of all the changes Watchtower made from 2005 onwards and posted it on the forum, I would have been labelled a conspiracy theorist. We seem to accept all the weird changes in stride now, because we're so used to them changing things.
  
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  Did Freddy Franz receive secret instructions from a Jewish aquaintance?

  by truthseeker in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i recently met a sister who told me she heard of a story that the late president of the watchtower society, mr. freddy franz, received secret instructions on how to direct the organization from a jewish acquaintance.. is this a conspiracy theory or could there be some truth to it?.

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  truthseeker

  That's why I posted the topic.