i've been using the forum to vent and post a lot more frequently lately as a venting purpose & way to obtain peace of mind with the craziness i've been going through recently as i fade away form the org.
anyways today i'm sitting here at work and thinking to myself about demons... ok i know this sounds crazy but has anyone else out there been traumatized by the thought of demons?
i had a dream the other night, just flat out spooky and i woke and couldn't help but feeling it may have been evil ole' satan and his demons at it again.. i don't want to believe that, (trying not to, & just brushing it under the rug so to speak) but have any of you out there been talked up about demons?
Anders Andersen,
I have not had an alien abduction! No offense taken.
The "thing" I saw was about 6ft tall, in my bedroom, the hall light was on and when I looked at it it had no human features. I watched it leave my room. Freakiest thing I've ever seen.
I wasn't asleep either or lucid dreaming.
i've been using the forum to vent and post a lot more frequently lately as a venting purpose & way to obtain peace of mind with the craziness i've been going through recently as i fade away form the org.
anyways today i'm sitting here at work and thinking to myself about demons... ok i know this sounds crazy but has anyone else out there been traumatized by the thought of demons?
i had a dream the other night, just flat out spooky and i woke and couldn't help but feeling it may have been evil ole' satan and his demons at it again.. i don't want to believe that, (trying not to, & just brushing it under the rug so to speak) but have any of you out there been talked up about demons?
If you take away the fear, the cult indoctrination, then you have experience. It is the height of ignorance to say we're all imagining these things or our brain chemistry is unbalanced. We only see a small part of the EM spectrum. I personally have seen a materialized humanoid form while I was wide awake and in the home of a JW elder and his family. I've seen and heard other things. I can't prove it to anyone because I can't replicate the phenomena. It just happened. I don't expect anyone to believe me.
...right from a pro-jw site in response to a post about the relative seriousness of homosexuality.
all you can do is reason from the scriptures, which you appear to have done.
homosexuality is as serious as bestiality, or adultery and fornication.
I think there are degrees of sins. Theft is not the same as murder.
Homosexuality is grouped with fornication and adultery.
Then there are other sins....
The bible account of a woman who intervened in a fight between two men and had her hand cut off because she grabbed the attacker's balls.
Deuteronomy 25:11
“If two men fight together, and the wife of one draws near to rescue her husband from the hand of the one attacking him, and puts out her hand and seizes him by the genitals, then you shall cut off her hand; your eye shall not pity her.”
friends,.
watch this jw.org video with "helper" david schafer.
the topic is care for your parents.
in an effort to reduce the number of posts, this year i will try to add links to this post.
now, on with the leaks & releases!
first up.... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0nzvwhflss4.
...right from a pro-jw site in response to a post about the relative seriousness of homosexuality.
all you can do is reason from the scriptures, which you appear to have done.
homosexuality is as serious as bestiality, or adultery and fornication.
The Bible does condemn the practice of homosexuality in many verses, so in Judeo-Christian culture it is condemned. It makes for uncomfortable reading for those who are gay. And for those who aren't, it reinforces current beliefs.
Across the other side of the world, Native American's, who did not have the Bible, referred to some persons as "two spirits" although this seems to refer to transgendered people first.
for the many years i was mentally " in " the congregation, i equated the organisation as interchangeable with the persona of jehovah, in effect whatever the organisation said or thought, that was what jehovah thought and that was what jehovah said.... it was that simple.
so when i found out the ttatt and the cynical moves of the organisation over the years,including 1975 , the donation arrangements, the united nations, etc i was devastated and thought " where's jehovah in all of this?".
the god who i'd poured my heart out to on many occasions and who i thought was silently listening and hearing my pleas ..... was not there , .
Deleteandrestart,
I felt exactly the same way. They involve Jehovah so much in our lives that you do think of Jehovah as being your friend. Especially does the book "Draw Close to Jehovah" make this so. And then afterwards you learn JWs are a cult. And then begin the questions, you pour your heart out to God in earnest prayer but he wasn't listening. Why would God allow me to get mixed up in a cult? Where was he when I needed him the most?
After I left the witnesses, I discovered it's OK not to have all the answers because as long as I have the freedom to look for them, I'm fine with that. It does relieve a huge burden for me.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wpuhj98vjoa.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hik8hj0_t9q.
Something to think about...
Why does it have to be this way, everything going round something else?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wpuhj98vjoa.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hik8hj0_t9q.
Before the Big Bang there was "heaven", going by the Genesis account.
"In the beginning, God made the heavens and the Earth."
Where was God when he made the "heavens" and which "heavens" are we talking about?
If heavens meant our material universe, I suspect that the "void" we call outer space, has always existed, because the void is nothingness and you can't create nothing because it is "nothing". It's just empty "space" to put things in.
I'm not sure about a "big crunch" because if the universe is 14 billion years old, it would take 14 billions years at the speed of light for universe to "crunch" because nothing could go faster than the speed of light.
Several years ago, there was a space probe called COBE that detected "ripples" from the after shock of the Big Bang.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cosmic_microwave_background
Just my 2c
Truthseeker
i recently met a sister who told me she heard of a story that the late president of the watchtower society, mr. freddy franz, received secret instructions on how to direct the organization from a jewish acquaintance.. is this a conspiracy theory or could there be some truth to it?.
truthseeker.
OK, I found an old link..
http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/207251/whats-going-on-100-henry-street?page=1
"Fred Franz played a big role as the "oracle" of the Society. " But he became a figure head to conceal that the real directing influence of the WT Society was outside of the Society. A big 6'2" Jewish man has gone everywhere with Fred Franz as his guide these last few decades. This man, Natheer Salih, was needed because Fred became blind. However, for many years people at Bethel found that Salih was more like a bodyguard. Indeed, he was more than a bodyguard, for any communication to Franz has been going through Salih, who then returns with the "answer" from Franz. This Jewish man with obvious rich tastes, big expensive rings and watches, has become the President's mouthpiece, and in effect a decision-maker although he isn't part of theGoverning Body.29 Salih was in a position to protect against an old man saying the wrong thing."
http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/243241/who-really-faithful-discreet-natheer-salih?page=1
