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A different viewpoint of "many will come in my name saying I am the Christ"

by truthseeker in

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most jws are familiar with the scripture at matthew 24:5: "for many will come in my name, saying, ‘i am the christ,’ and they will lead many astray.".

it is implied that people would come in jesus' name declaring that they were christ - but could there be another view on this scripture?

could this also mean that jesus said many would come in his name saying he is christ?.

truthseeker

Thanks, I will look into this more. I know the guy who did the podcast said to double check what the Bible is really saying about Matthew 24:5.

Appreciate your feedback.

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A different viewpoint of "many will come in my name saying I am the Christ"

by truthseeker in

jw
friends

most jws are familiar with the scripture at matthew 24:5: "for many will come in my name, saying, ‘i am the christ,’ and they will lead many astray.".

it is implied that people would come in jesus' name declaring that they were christ - but could there be another view on this scripture?

could this also mean that jesus said many would come in his name saying he is christ?.

truthseeker

Yes, that's what I'm trying to say. But it's hard to explain because we're so used to hearing just one interpretation.

Jesus said this to his disciples before he was known as "the Christ."

Imagine you're one of his disciples. Jesus tells you "look guys, many will come in my name, saying I am the Christ"

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Street Work With the Sisters

by truthseeker in

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"be there at 7:30" i'm told.

that's where the action is.. it's early saturday morning in passaic, nj.

it's january and i'm bloody freezing.. i'm standing on the street corner in my black trench coat getting ready to ply my wares.

On one occasion (I did not personally witness this), during field service, some of the friends saw a man chase his wife down the street with an axe and kill her. This happened in 2008 in Passaic NJ. It shocked a lot of people being that it happened in broad daylight.

There's an article here...

https://www.nj.com/news/index.ssf/2010/10/passaic_man_convicted_of_killi.html

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A different viewpoint of "many will come in my name saying I am the Christ"

by truthseeker in

jw
friends

most jws are familiar with the scripture at matthew 24:5: "for many will come in my name, saying, ‘i am the christ,’ and they will lead many astray.".

it is implied that people would come in jesus' name declaring that they were christ - but could there be another view on this scripture?

could this also mean that jesus said many would come in his name saying he is christ?.

truthseeker

I get that totally. It was difficult to explain.

I was listening to a podcast the other day where the speaker said we may have got the understanding wrong.

It may not be people saying "look, I am the Christ" but "many would come in my name [Jesus] saying, Jesus is Christ" implying two different people.

If you think about it, it's lunacy for a person to say they're Jesus. Obviously that doesn't stop people from doing so, but it wouldn't necessarily mislead people unless they were able to perform signs and miracles. So the scripture must mean something else.

It's kind of like me saying "Wake Me Up" is "Truthseeker"

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Street Work With the Sisters

by truthseeker in

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friends

"be there at 7:30" i'm told.

that's where the action is.. it's early saturday morning in passaic, nj.

it's january and i'm bloody freezing.. i'm standing on the street corner in my black trench coat getting ready to ply my wares.

truthseeker

ha...I'm just getting started

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Street Work With the Sisters

by truthseeker in

jw
friends

"be there at 7:30" i'm told.

that's where the action is.. it's early saturday morning in passaic, nj.

it's january and i'm bloody freezing.. i'm standing on the street corner in my black trench coat getting ready to ply my wares.

truthseeker

"Be there at 7:30" I'm told. That's where the action is.

It's early Saturday morning in Passaic, NJ. It's January and I'm bloody freezing.

I'm standing on the street corner in my black trench coat getting ready to ply my wares. Besides me is a sister holding some tracts in her hands. Sisters outnumber us three to one. Not many brothers want to do street work. But I have to get my time in.

We're getting ready to work the streets. My hands are so cold I can barely hold the magazines.

There's about a dozen of us out on Main Street.

I can't speak a word of Spanish but this sister can and she babbles away to random strangers and leaves them Panda tracts. I stand there not understanding a word of what she's saying. All I can think about is the nearest Dunkin Donuts.

We start at one end of the street and dutifully walk to the other end before crossing the road and going back down. The residents are mostly Spanish - Puerto Ricans, Dominicans and some Mexican's. They don't pay much attention to us.

For some unknown reason, Randy Crawford's lyrics from Street Life come into my head. I mentally swap "Life" with "Work" and make a few other mods and it seems to make sense: "I play the street work, because there's no place I can go, street work, it's the only way I know, street work, I placed a 100 mags today, Now I've played my life away."

I have some Spanish literature and hand it out to strangers who pass us by. They must think we're a weird lot.

In half an hour I've placed all my magazines at the laundromat and the sister working with me shows no signs of slowing down.

Finally it's 8:30 and we meet up with the rest of the car group.

"Does anyone want to get coffee before the meeting for field service?"

"Yes please"

We're 5 mins away from Dunkin Donuts.

Due to the cold weather the line is short.

"I'd like a hot latte with extra sugar please" I say to the girl at the counter. I skip the donut. I don't like eating in other people's cars. Especially one covered in powdered sugar.

The hot cup warms my hands. I look at the clock. It's 9am. The day has barely begun. I think I've got at least an hour and a half in and placed 20 magazines. At least the people in the laundromat will have something to read.

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A different viewpoint of "many will come in my name saying I am the Christ"

by truthseeker in

jw
friends

most jws are familiar with the scripture at matthew 24:5: "for many will come in my name, saying, ‘i am the christ,’ and they will lead many astray.".

it is implied that people would come in jesus' name declaring that they were christ - but could there be another view on this scripture?

could this also mean that jesus said many would come in his name saying he is christ?.

truthseeker

Most JWs are familiar with the scripture at Matthew 24:5: "For many will come in my name, saying, ‘I am the Christ,’ and they will lead many astray."

It is implied that people would come in Jesus' name declaring that they were Christ - but could there be another view on this scripture? What if Jesus and Christ were two separate identities or persons?

Look at it again:

Matthew 24:5 "For many will come in my name, saying, ‘I am the Christ,’ and they will lead many astray."

Could this also mean that Jesus said many would come in his name saying he is Christ?

When did Jesus become Jesus Christ?

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Just got my DVD Apostasy.

by blownaway in

my dvd arrived from amazon today.

will be having pizza corona and a movie night tonight.

.

truthseeker

Enjoy! It's definitely worth watching,

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Born ins: did you have "near life experiences"?

by truthseeker in

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i recently watched the 90s movie fight club for the first time and heard the phrase "near life experience.".

for me, a different definition of this phrase would be someone who grew up in the truth and led a very secluded and restricted life (like me) but on rare occasions actually experienced something that was considered quite normal by most people.. growing up in "the troof" was depressing.

it was characterized by long periods of loneliness.

truthseeker

I recently watched the 90s movie Fight Club for the first time and heard the phrase "near life experience."

For me, a different definition of this phrase would be someone who grew up in the truth and led a very secluded and restricted life (like me) but on rare occasions actually experienced something that was considered quite normal by most people.

Growing up in "the troof" was depressing. It was characterized by long periods of loneliness. I didn't seem to fit in anywhere. however, while pursuing my diploma at college, I was invited to play football by my classmates (soccer for US readers) and for the first time in my life I felt like I was part of something. At the end of the day, I'd take the train back home to reality station and that was it till the next day.

Those times were what I call "near life experiences" because it was as close to normal life as I could get.

You have to understand that it was the little things for me, that seem so ordinary and mundane to others, that made a small difference and made me realize that there is life outside the cult.

Truthseeker

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"Confessions of a teenage Jesus jerk"

by stuckinarut2 in

has anyone else seen the movie "confessions of a teenage jesus jerk"?.

im still processing it, and trying to work out my thoughts..... i would be interested in others thoughts..

truthseeker

I absolutely hated being a Jehovah's Witness. The teen years were horrible. Absolutely horrible.

I will be watching this movie.