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  Is the Holy Spirit God Himself or a force like in Star Wars?

  by I_love_Jeff in

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  The main doctrine of Christendon is that of the Trinity, that there are three divine persons (the Father, the Son, and the Holy Ghost). Each is said to be eternal, and each is said to be almighty; each one is believed to be God but they are lumped together as one single God.

  There is only one almighty God who is the Father, the mighty god being his son Jesus, who was God's first creation.The mystery of the Trinity is no more mysterious than unity which is what bonds the Father, the son and the Spirit or God's active force together.
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  Is the Holy Spirit God Himself or a force like in Star Wars?

  by I_love_Jeff in

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  Vanderhoven7,

  Thanks for your input.

  Re: Ephesians 4:30

  My personal understanding is that this scripture is not saying the Holy Spirit or Active Force is a seperate entity, rather it is an extension of God, or his presence.

  When we think of God we can't think in human terms. The Holy Spirit is the presence he uses when He wishes to go beyond his throne. It's as if he were present where the Holy Spirit goes to. At any moment, God can reach out from his throne to administer judgement.

  I think the same could be said of 1 Corinthians 12:11
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  Is the Holy Spirit God Himself or a force like in Star Wars?

  by I_love_Jeff in

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  I do not believe the Holy Spirit is another person. It is God's Active Force, his energy.

  The Active Force is energy that has the ability to completely surround and protect, or destroy.

  Spirit energy is not always seen, but sometimes felt. At Mt. Sinai, God's presence was invisible but the physical manifestations were thunders and lightning. God's power to be present on this planet was in a spiritual form of his Active Force. That’s why it can be said that God or Christ are present by proxy; that being accomplished by angelic deputies that are empowered to carry out his will.
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  Paul's Out-Of-Body Experience - How did we Miss This?

  by wordfamine.com in

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  the watchtower teaches that there is no such thing as a spirit or soul leaving the body that can consciously experience anything in heaven unless you are annointed and you die.

  and the body certainly couldn't go in their view.

  however the apostle paul plainly taught otherwise.

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  At 1 Corinthians 5:3 Paul said, "Even though I am not physically present, I am with you in spirit. And I have already passed judgment on the one who did this, just as if I were present."

  Could this be referring to astral projection or teleporation? Or even remote viewing?

  If the soul and spirit are seperate it would make sense that Paul could be in two places at the same time.
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  Eurozone crisis- the jw's are crowing about it like mad!

  by highdose in

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  over the past few weeks i've been told that the eurozone will go into melt down and that this will be the start of armargeddon because the goverments will then turn on religon to get their money instead.. i have been told that the greek pm almost rejecting the greek bailout plan would lead to armargeddon.

  of course much to the jw's disapointment the greek pm resigned and the greeks did accept the bail out.

  thus saving the greek banks from collapse and thus the rest of the european banks.. i have been told that italys debt will mean they will plunder the vatican for its wealth!

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  Sonny.alfaro,

  I feel like that too sometimes, I wonder if there is so much wrong about the witnesses could they possibly be right about anything?

  Things are not going the way the Watchtower said it would. Babylon the Great should have fallen by now, JWs should have been attacked and the identity of the King of the North would have been known, but none of this has happened.
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  References: what did the elders say about you to your other half during courtship?

  by truthseeker in

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  when you announced your intention to marry, what did the elders say to your future bride/groom?.

  in a long distance courtship, did you have any trouble getting a good "spiritual" reference?.

  an elder in my hall told the elders in my wife's hall that i was a low hour publisher.. .

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  Norcal,

  A brother I know lost his privileges as a ministerial servant because he married his wife who was studying the bible and came into the truth anyway. Go figure!

  It shows that bible studies are viewed as second class citizens, despite going to the hall, studying, preaching etc.
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  For Obves: It's the 29th of September, and we are still here.

  by african GB Member in

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  it's actually 4pm right now in south africa.

  is the hour of the end still on the way?.

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  AfricanGB member,

  It will come when you're not expecting it so find something else to do :)
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  I've Run Out of Stuff

  by Farkel in

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  i have no more steam, and no more passion.. i've run out of stuff to write about.

  what is left to write about a religion that is so fucked up that everyting is already written about how fucked up they are?.

  i don't think anyone can trump my article about berta and bonnie.

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  Farkel,

  You'll run out of stuff when the WT finally crumbles - and then there's the aftermath.

  I understand what you're saying though.
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  References: what did the elders say about you to your other half during courtship?

  by truthseeker in

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  when you announced your intention to marry, what did the elders say to your future bride/groom?.

  in a long distance courtship, did you have any trouble getting a good "spiritual" reference?.

  an elder in my hall told the elders in my wife's hall that i was a low hour publisher.. .

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  When you announced your intention to marry, what did the elders say to your future bride/groom?

  In a long distance courtship, did you have any trouble getting a good "spiritual" reference?

  An elder in my hall told the elders in my wife's hall that I was a low hour publisher.
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  2011 November Our Kingdom Ministry-PDF!

  by Atlantis in

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  credit goes to anonymous2011 november our kingdom ministry (and more).http://www.megaupload.com/?d=eq03rgzoatlantis

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