Posts by truthseeker

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JW All seeing eye property

by wwjdnwt in

https://youtu.be/t0nfxs7cans have you guys seen this?

i googled it on my pc and pulled same thing.

crazy stuff.

truthseeker

It is interesting. Odd coincidence. I even googled images of all seeing eye and there is a resemblance.

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What actually happened AFTER Jesus zoomed up into the clouds and disappeared?

by TerryWalstrom in

what happened after jesus zoomed up into the sky?for a while, he was expected to return rather quickly.in the meantime, there was the “great commission” and evangelism to be tended to.. the jesus believers were meeting in people's homes.

members of that community would take turns using private homes to gather.

thus, they went house to house.. these footstep tracers of jesus (they called themselves akolouthontes "followers" or some called themselves mathetai or "learners.

truthseeker

Terry,

Thanks for an interesting topic!

Here are three scriptural quotes which put things into perspective about the never ending wait for the Lord's return

2 Peter 3: "For YOU know this first, that in the last days there will come ridiculers with their ridicule, proceeding according to their own desires and saying: “Where is this promised presence of his? Why, from the day our forefathers fell asleep [in death], all things are continuing exactly as from creation’s beginning.”

The ridiculers and the ridiculed have been dead almost 2,000 years.

John 21:20-23 "Peter turned and saw that the disciple whom Jesus loved was following them. (This was the one who had leaned back against Jesus at the supper and had said, “Lord, who is going to betray you?”) 21 When Peter saw him, he asked, “Lord, what about him?” Jesus answered, “If I want him to remain alive until I return, what is that to you? You must follow me.” Because of this, the rumor spread among the believers that this disciple would not die. But Jesus did not say that he would not die; he only said, “If I want him to remain alive until I return, what is that to you?”

Jesus' apostle, whom he loved, has been dead almost 2,000 years

Revelation 22:12 says ""Look, I am coming soon! My reward is with me, and I will give to each person according to what they have done."

He never came back. This verse was written almost 2,000 years ago.

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WTBTS of Britain selling another Kingdom Hall

by Nicholaus Kopernicus in

while having a sojourn in se england yesterday (bank holiday weekend) i noticed this a few meters from the entrance to richmond park.... .

this is the kingdom hall of the richmond park congregation of jehovah's witnesses.

i checked the website of the estate agent (bonsors) and there is no mention of the property or the price.

truthseeker

Wow - isn't this a posh area where renting is expensive.

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Are you a Christian Who Accepts Evolution?

by cofty in

if you identify as a christian but you have accepted that the diversity of life - including humans - resulted from a process of biological evolution could you add your name please?.

just to be clear i am referring to the fact that our physical lineage could literally be traced back all the way to non-human species.. if you like maybe you could comment on why you see not conflict between evolution and your christian faith.. there is a tendency to conflate evolution with atheism.

it would be good to show that this is not the case..

truthseeker

Whatshallicallmyswlf,

thanks for reply. Adaptation can give an improvised outcome - survival of the fittest - this in itself is an improvement.

No malaria is not an improvement.

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Are you a Christian Who Accepts Evolution?

by cofty in

if you identify as a christian but you have accepted that the diversity of life - including humans - resulted from a process of biological evolution could you add your name please?.

just to be clear i am referring to the fact that our physical lineage could literally be traced back all the way to non-human species.. if you like maybe you could comment on why you see not conflict between evolution and your christian faith.. there is a tendency to conflate evolution with atheism.

it would be good to show that this is not the case..

truthseeker

Cofty,

I am aware of your evolution posts but never had the time to properly go through them all. I think I will start at your first post and comment as I see fit.

truthseeker

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Are you a Christian Who Accepts Evolution?

by cofty in

if you identify as a christian but you have accepted that the diversity of life - including humans - resulted from a process of biological evolution could you add your name please?.

just to be clear i am referring to the fact that our physical lineage could literally be traced back all the way to non-human species.. if you like maybe you could comment on why you see not conflict between evolution and your christian faith.. there is a tendency to conflate evolution with atheism.

it would be good to show that this is not the case..

truthseeker

Let's fantasize for a bit how my theory could work.

Man is at the threshold of landing on Mars and one day terraforming it. Let's say in 2,000 years Mars has been terraformed by humans and species brought over from Earth.

There probably has to be some genetic tinkering just to get the creatures to breathe Mars' atmosphere. In time, intelligent life 'evolves' either through the relaxation of genetic inhibitors or assisted evolution. Then humans die off.

Millions of years later intelligent Martian life, whatever it's physique, starts posting on forums like this asking where did they come from.

Which is precisely what we are doing now. We want to know how did we get here. And we're arguing over evolution and Jesus and Adam and Eve.

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Are you a Christian Who Accepts Evolution?

by cofty in

if you identify as a christian but you have accepted that the diversity of life - including humans - resulted from a process of biological evolution could you add your name please?.

just to be clear i am referring to the fact that our physical lineage could literally be traced back all the way to non-human species.. if you like maybe you could comment on why you see not conflict between evolution and your christian faith.. there is a tendency to conflate evolution with atheism.

it would be good to show that this is not the case..

truthseeker

If these evolutionary forces are blind and unintelligent then the whole theory of this process needs to be reconsidered. From the humble tribolite living in ancient lakes to a man building rocket ships. There's no way I can accept blind and unintelligent forces that somehow come together to make something intelligent. Ironically, this is the same reasoning used with creationists.

I'm going for a break and I'll be back to check for updates.

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Are you a Christian Who Accepts Evolution?

by cofty in

if you identify as a christian but you have accepted that the diversity of life - including humans - resulted from a process of biological evolution could you add your name please?.

just to be clear i am referring to the fact that our physical lineage could literally be traced back all the way to non-human species.. if you like maybe you could comment on why you see not conflict between evolution and your christian faith.. there is a tendency to conflate evolution with atheism.

it would be good to show that this is not the case..

truthseeker

Jp, going by the video you posted I see nothing but improvement. Certainly not blind and unintelligent. The actor starts off with a fish and ends up with himself. If that's not improvement what is?

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Are you a Christian Who Accepts Evolution?

by cofty in

if you identify as a christian but you have accepted that the diversity of life - including humans - resulted from a process of biological evolution could you add your name please?.

just to be clear i am referring to the fact that our physical lineage could literally be traced back all the way to non-human species.. if you like maybe you could comment on why you see not conflict between evolution and your christian faith.. there is a tendency to conflate evolution with atheism.

it would be good to show that this is not the case..

truthseeker

Thank you for the video. I found it informative. For this to be true scientists should at least be able to find a mechanism in the DNA to start subtle changes. I can't accept this at face value because the inter-species jump even over millions of years is too implausible. I think that each species has a built in inhibitor that prevents chimera reproduction even if different species try to mate outside their genetic profile. Plus there are still fish swimming in the ocean and every tin of tuna I eat could be me eating my ancestral descendants. 😁

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Are you a Christian Who Accepts Evolution?

by cofty in

if you identify as a christian but you have accepted that the diversity of life - including humans - resulted from a process of biological evolution could you add your name please?.

just to be clear i am referring to the fact that our physical lineage could literally be traced back all the way to non-human species.. if you like maybe you could comment on why you see not conflict between evolution and your christian faith.. there is a tendency to conflate evolution with atheism.

it would be good to show that this is not the case..

truthseeker

JP, would you be open to the idea of willful genetic manipulation of prehistoric humans? That could be thought of as an assisted evolution. Scientists are doing this now by experimenting with chimeras. The only thing that stops them are term limits on the use of embryos.

Evolution is not just about change for the sake of change but the whole concept of evolution is an improvement over it's genetic predecessor. And if a species wants improvement to survive it does indicate the possibility of some sort of primeval intelligence. That's why cancer is not evolution; it's cells gone wrong, but a fish out of water and growing legs is an improvement were there evidence for this.