Posts by starScream

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attention lost sheep.

by MOLHIE-NIGG in

oh dear you people are really filled with hate, the jws are "evil" are they?.

i think evil is a bit over the top dont you, jahs people may be many things but noy quite that i am afraid, how about loving, compasionate, caring and steadfast in their belief of the truth?..

is it any wonder jws are warned and understandably cautious of you when statements like these abound, lets expose them you cry and then wonder why they view sites like this as part of satans body.

starScream

Jehovah's Witnesses is a rather inappropriate and presumptuous name, first of all, since they don't know the first thing about God.

I was raised in the "truth." Which actually wasn't the truth as was proved by the GB's inability to decide once for all what that truth actually is. I sold magazines that said the 20th century would see the final overthrow of all human governments and the destruction of all the wicked and the establishment of Christ's Earthly rule. Its 2003 and that one fall too. I was also told that some of the annointed or at least those born before 1914 would still be alive when armageddon came. There's another one they needed to quietly stop talking about.

The Watchtower claimed to be the Prophet of God in 1972 but by that claim the Watchtower should be put to death "without delay" as a false prophet as it says in Deut. Every condemnation the Watchtower makes of real Christians is one more it will have to answer to on Judgment day.

Since you are still blind as to how ridiculous the watchtower is you will obviously think we are devil worshipping idiots, but it is Jehovah's (false) Witnesses that dont like Jesus, and reject in their communion service, which should be called an excommunion service.

We actually love Jesus. We don't just pay lipservice to that. We love him more than anything, unlike JW's who love the watchtower more if they love Jesus at all, and that which is done to the Son is done to the Father.

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Cult alley

by starScream in

i have lived in the san diego area all my life and i have to say i can't imagine a place that has more cults.. this one street, melrose, which runs through a northern san diego city where i lived for years had virtually every cult you could think of in a one mile stretch including mormo and jw.. we also have a proliferation of ufo and cosmic cults.

we have this one whore of babylon, ruth norman, who is always on public access and operates out of east san diego.

just looking at her makes me want to puke.

starScream

cmon TR is that really necessary? I mean it is funny but not very nice and it is off the topic just a little bit.

Im sorry for that moulhie

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Why did you get out of JW?

by WorldsEyeView in

why did all of you guys get out?.

i have a friend who is a jw, and i don't think she is right at all.

do you guys have any convincing arguments on why jw is wrong?

starScream

never doubted you for a second Megan.

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Cult alley

by starScream in

i have lived in the san diego area all my life and i have to say i can't imagine a place that has more cults.. this one street, melrose, which runs through a northern san diego city where i lived for years had virtually every cult you could think of in a one mile stretch including mormo and jw.. we also have a proliferation of ufo and cosmic cults.

we have this one whore of babylon, ruth norman, who is always on public access and operates out of east san diego.

just looking at her makes me want to puke.

starScream

I have lived in the San Diego area all my life and I have to say I can't imagine a place that has more cults.

This one street, Melrose, which runs through a Northern San Diego city where I lived for years had virtually every cult you could think of in a one mile stretch including Mormo and JW.

We also have a proliferation of UFO and cosmic cults. We have this one whore of babylon, Ruth Norman, who is always on Public access and operates out of East San Diego. Just looking at her makes me want to puke. She developed this religion called Unarius. The more radical version of this crap was called Heaven's Gate. Also in the San Diego area.

So who has whacky annoying cults in their area?

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Mormon Scholar Under Fire

by onacruse in

the latest issue of christianity today has the following article:.

http://www.christianitytoday.com/ct/2003/003/14.24.html.

a couple of excerpts:.

starScream

devious logic

If it uses a prexisting example such as a mature Adam how is it devious? Im not saying I support a Young universe, I find the idea completely preposterous, but I don't see how the arguement was at all devious.

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Who Who's a JW?

by WorldsEyeView in

hi guys...

i was wondering who in here is a jw and who's not??

i thought everyone was, but from some of the stuff i have read people aren't.

starScream

you signed off as megan when you asked,

and when you said you werent a JW you didnt sign off as megan so I didnt notice that you were the same person. heh

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Mormon Scholar Under Fire

by onacruse in

the latest issue of christianity today has the following article:.

http://www.christianitytoday.com/ct/2003/003/14.24.html.

a couple of excerpts:.

starScream

Hillary,

anyone motivated by power alone will resort to totalitarianism. religion has been a convenient vehicle for it but by no means the only one. In modern times secular socialism in the name of justice has been more successful. Religious totallitarianism is losing its monopoly because the luxuries of modern life can be delivered in the promise of social justice without having to die first. Secular Socialism is the newest form of religious totalitarianism and anyone who seeks power will campaign on Social Justice and the promise of prosperity and only loosely appeal to religiosity.

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Why did you get out of JW?

by WorldsEyeView in

why did all of you guys get out?.

i have a friend who is a jw, and i don't think she is right at all.

do you guys have any convincing arguments on why jw is wrong?

starScream

patio,

everytime scientists are absolutely convinced something is true they are only minutes away from realizing they were completely wrong.

I think religious people tend to paint too specific of a picture of what God's original world looked like also. We know that death existed in the original world. It is pressumptuous to say how it SHOULD have been in order for it to have been made by God. The world was perfect for man and was made to support the perfect life of man. It would not last very long if animals did not die. They would multiply exponetially, consume absolutely everything, turn the surface of the world into a thin layer of guano and the skies would be so full of birds they would block the sun.

Death must have been a part of life from the beginning. So right from the beginning scavengers were needed to clean up the landscape. Bacteria and viruses were also needed to aid decomposition to convert feces and dead tissues into topsoil so the land can continue to support plant life. Microbiology can hardly be considered violent IMHO.

As for why did God give snakes fangs that inject poison? Maybe he thought they were cool.

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Why did you get out of JW?

by WorldsEyeView in

why did all of you guys get out?.

i have a friend who is a jw, and i don't think she is right at all.

do you guys have any convincing arguments on why jw is wrong?

starScream

Megan,

I understand your dilema. Im sure you care deeply for your friend. That is exactly what will prevent her from leaving. JWs are WELL trained to not pay attention to dissent. JWs are rigorously indoctrinated to believe that people that get emotional and try to pursuade them to believe something else are directly sent by the devil. Megan, your friend is in a cult. Like an addict she must first realize she has a problem. There is nothing much you can do but love her. If she is meant to leave the Watchtower it will happen.

When I was lost I had a teacher in college that loved me despite my disgust for Christianity and I loved her even though she was a Christian. But nothing we said to eachother would convince either of us that the other is right. Eventually God did his work and saved me. My advice is to simply love your friend and be prepared to have a defense for what you believe. Try not to attack her religion though. If she realized that you are a Christian and that your beliefs make sense then she will question the exclusiveness of her organization.

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Are JW kids really better that Christendom's or even the world's?

by starScream in

i dont mean to put down my cousin but if she and her boyfriend (now husband) have been loyal jws all their lives why is it that he was arrested for cocaine posession, (he was actually trafficking while a jw!!!!

)she got knocked up by him, and then they got married by a judge instead of an elder.

do these sound like jw kids or do they sound like the real jw kids that you dont see on the poster or cover of awake.

starScream

Scully,

Believe it or not, there are JW kids who sincerely believe they have The Truth TM , and wholeheartedly want to please Jehovah.

that is exactly my point. I use my cousin and her husband as a PERFECT example becasue they fit that dynamic. My cousin and her sister are devout as are their parents their allegience to the Watchtower is absolute. They go in field service all the time and they believe without a doubt what the watchtower teaches. I did also for a very long time. I could never get over why someone needed to join a **insert ad hominem** club that says you can't have a beard in order to please God though.

They do not swear, they do not fornicate, they don't drink or smoke or do drugs, they do not willfully hurt other people. Their parents do not have to demand obedience from them,

Well, As I have just demonstrated JW are no better than Christendom's or the World's because they actually do those things just like everyone else. Any one can claim that someone else's kids are simply an exception to the rule but why then claim to have better kids? That is just another way of saying "Hey, if you don't count our bad kids then our kids are better than your kids." Kids are kids and adults are sinners. Instead of boasting in the cross JWs boast in performance of their group as a whole minus the ones that they label as weak. It is ludicrous. Performance must be perfect or it is meaningless.

Even if their kids are better, which is simply false, it does not mean that they are right for making a point of it. By restricting their kids out of fear that they will love the world more than the Watchtower they are only encouraging rebellion. I know lots of JW kids that use drugs, swear, smoke, fornicate.... If they were allowed more normal social lives it probably wouldn't happen.