Posts by starScream

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George Bush's excuse is good enough for me !

by searchfothetruth in

i am really excited by george bush's latest reason for bombing iraq: he's running out of patience.

for some time now i've been really pi##ed off with mr johnson, who lives a couple of doors down the street.

well, him and mr patel, who runs the health food shop.they both give me queer looks, and i'm sure mr johnson is planning something nasty for me, but so far i haven't been able to discover what.. i've been round to his place a few times to see what he's up to, but he's got everything well hidden.

starScream

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George Bush's excuse is good enough for me !

by searchfothetruth in

i am really excited by george bush's latest reason for bombing iraq: he's running out of patience.

for some time now i've been really pi##ed off with mr johnson, who lives a couple of doors down the street.

well, him and mr patel, who runs the health food shop.they both give me queer looks, and i'm sure mr johnson is planning something nasty for me, but so far i haven't been able to discover what.. i've been round to his place a few times to see what he's up to, but he's got everything well hidden.

starScream

Trauma_Hound,

You are obviously very passionate about this DU thing. I apoligize if I sounded insensitive to what you think is so important. Personally, I just don't see any evidence that shows that DU offers any significant risks beyond that of lead. Radiologically speaking I have seen several studies that show it is well within acceptable allowances.

I just don't see how it is more dangerous than lead, I am sorry if you do not agree with that. I'm sorry to hear about your friend who is dying. I am not just going to conclude that his exposure to DU has played a larger part in his illness than lead would have.

I hope you do us all a favor and get yourself fixed, so you don't pass your genes along.

Because I don't think that DU is significantly more dangerous than lead? If I change my mind in the future can I have kids?

If DU is shown to be highly dangerous through controlled animal testing I will change my view on it.

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George Bush's excuse is good enough for me !

by searchfothetruth in

i am really excited by george bush's latest reason for bombing iraq: he's running out of patience.

for some time now i've been really pi##ed off with mr johnson, who lives a couple of doors down the street.

well, him and mr patel, who runs the health food shop.they both give me queer looks, and i'm sure mr johnson is planning something nasty for me, but so far i haven't been able to discover what.. i've been round to his place a few times to see what he's up to, but he's got everything well hidden.

starScream

If Randy Weaver was such a criminal, and the Feds had legal reasons to be there, why isn't he in prison? Answer that one you dumb ass.

Randy Weaver was only guilty of misdemeanors. Prison is for felons. Your right I am dumb because I don't rally behind white supremist causes. All I know is that when the BATF has me surrounded and is flying helicopters over my house Im going to call them and thell them I am coming out with my hands up, not go running into the woods with assault weapons.

When the FBI has me and my cult members, who are stockpyling illegal guns, surrounded. I am coming out with my hands up.

Oh wait, you know what, I did have the Sherriff's department surround my house one time and they had a helicopter circling. They knew I had guns. I did not go running out and charging with assault weapons. I slowly walked out with my hands up. I could tell they were serious when I saw 8 units and 12 cops with shotguns and pistols trained on me. I followed the instructions and I was fine. No harm no foul.

I'm done discussing DU. Fine it is the most horrible plague ever unleashed on the world. I will fear for my life if I ever see a DU slug.

If you want me to believe that the US government conspired to casue 9/11, and I am not saying you are, then I will give you my address and you can come down here and tell me all about it. After having to deal with that crap I'm pretty exausted. you can say all you want about DU and ruby ridge and whatever you want. I won't try to stop you.

Look I am not going to defend everything the BATF or FBI do. They were partially responsible for what happened at Ruby Ridge, it was a tactical error at worst, not a conspiracy to execute Weaver's wife. The guy that shot weaver's son was a butthole. I don't think it was a conspiracy to shoot weaver's son.

I have my own grudge against the FBI. I had a neighboor who was an FBI agent. The FBI killed him because he wouldn't take bribes and he was talking about leaving the bureau. He left behind a wife a two young kids.

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George Bush's excuse is good enough for me !

by searchfothetruth in

i am really excited by george bush's latest reason for bombing iraq: he's running out of patience.

for some time now i've been really pi##ed off with mr johnson, who lives a couple of doors down the street.

well, him and mr patel, who runs the health food shop.they both give me queer looks, and i'm sure mr johnson is planning something nasty for me, but so far i haven't been able to discover what.. i've been round to his place a few times to see what he's up to, but he's got everything well hidden.

starScream

The government blew up the Federal building in Oklahoma?

The OKC bomb was more than just a truck bomb as attested to by ALL the experts that have ever studied the destruction. The building could only have been destroyed in that way by shaped charges being placed on the pillars to bring them down.

All the experts said this, if you are smoking bananas and were only listening to the experts of banana smoking.

Umm. the oklahoma building didnt even fall you d******. It was blown to pieces. Correct me if I'm wrong but when you put shape charges on beams you are trying to cause in implosion right? Then why did the building get blasted into pieces a mile away? Why did the axel from the moving van land a few blocks away? why did all the eyewitnesses say that the truck exploded? Why did no one notice all these explosives inside the building?

Do you have any idea how much power is in 5000 lbs of explosives?

Why did they blow up that building? Why did they kill all those American kids? because they felt like it? McVeigh never denied that he did it. Nichols Testified that he helped him make the bomb. They never said the CIA helped them do it. Why didn't the CIA kill them to keep them quiet? Oswald was killed, why not these yahoos. I know why. Because you are smoking bananas.

What did the US government get out of this? They blew up their OWN FEDERAL building!?!?!?!? That makes sense, if you are smoking bananas.

You have found a revolutionary strategy that no government has ever thought of. Wage war on itself!!!!! It is brilliant!!! if you are smoking bananas.

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George Bush's excuse is good enough for me !

by searchfothetruth in

i am really excited by george bush's latest reason for bombing iraq: he's running out of patience.

for some time now i've been really pi##ed off with mr johnson, who lives a couple of doors down the street.

well, him and mr patel, who runs the health food shop.they both give me queer looks, and i'm sure mr johnson is planning something nasty for me, but so far i haven't been able to discover what.. i've been round to his place a few times to see what he's up to, but he's got everything well hidden.

starScream

SFT,

I live in San Diego. At the time I was working on that highrise contruction project and theorizing that muslim terrorists would use a Jumbo jet to take down the trade center in the near future, those terrorists were five miles away from me learning to fly jumbo jets, not learning to land them though.

Small world huh.

Do you know what the steel beams look like in an office? they don't look like anything. They are inside the office walls. So the CIA would need to hire drywall workers to repair the damage they did to the walls when they installed the shape charges. No drywall workers have come forward. I guess the CIA had them executed.

So who flew the planes? Whoever they were they would need to know where to hit the building so that the shape charges would not go off in a spot that was away from the fire.

So the CIA trained CIA agents to suicide murder thier own countrymen? Hmmm. Don't like that possibilty? Okay the CIA told the real hijackers where to hit the buildings? Why did the terrorists not document their colaberation with the US government. Such collaberation would be more embarrasing and disastrous than the attack. Why didn't they get the Government with that?

Who ordered the attack? Who did he give the order to? How did they know someone would not act rationally, document the conspiracy and expose it? Oh ya i forgot as soon as the whistle blower goes to a reporter the reporter just happens to be a CIA operative and kills him on sight. So how did they know who this random whistle blower would go to? How did they know that the whistle blower would not confide in as many people as he could trust and make sure that the conspiracy was exposed.

Who put the shape charges on the buildings? With all the cameras on the impact sites why did we not see the shape charges exploding, the skeleton is on the outside on the WTC.

Have you ever seen a demolition? Debris flies everywhere when those charges go off and they can be heard for a mile. Why did the metal bend and not just break like a shape charge would cause?

Why did the Government risk being exposed by exploding shape charge debris? Why didnt they just use an EMP device to knock out the cameras so no one could see the shape charge debris?

I came up with my theory based on probabilty before it happend and I did not calculate the US governments involvment. Rememeber people said the attack was "unthinkable." It wasn't. I thought of it. The terrorists thought of it. You have come up with nothing but a conspiracy theory after the fact.

stop smoking bananas.

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George Bush's excuse is good enough for me !

by searchfothetruth in

i am really excited by george bush's latest reason for bombing iraq: he's running out of patience.

for some time now i've been really pi##ed off with mr johnson, who lives a couple of doors down the street.

well, him and mr patel, who runs the health food shop.they both give me queer looks, and i'm sure mr johnson is planning something nasty for me, but so far i haven't been able to discover what.. i've been round to his place a few times to see what he's up to, but he's got everything well hidden.

starScream

SFT,

I CAME UP WITH A NEAR IDENTICAL ATTACK ON THE WTC mere months before it happened.

I will entertain your insanity only to discount it. I theorized that Musilm terrorists would hijack a jumbo jet (747) loaded with fuel and crash it into the world trade center to bring down one or both buildings. I thought of this the week of the Cole bombing, it was the same week I was born again. This was a totally idependant idea I had because I was trying to imagine what could go wrong in the world because I was obsessed with armageddon.

I was working on a highrise project at the time of my theory in late 2000, less than a year before the 9/11. I concluded that the impact was unlikely to have a chance at knocking down the trade center due to the stregth of the steel skeleton, exoskeleton in the case of the wtc. I also knew that the beams of a building would warp under intense heat. Fire proof coatings only last about 20 minutes if the coating even last through an initial blast. Once the coating is gone the steel will weaken. The floors of buildings are made of thousands of tons of solid concrete. Several floors above the main fire were putting an incredible strain on the steel which was growing very hot and very weak. The expansion of the metal alone would cause bending because it would have nowhere to go. It does not take long to heat up steel. I have made thousands of cuts into steel with heat. The stuff goes like butter when it is hot.

I concluded that if the jet fuel would burn in one place for longer than 30 minutes then the WTC could come down from such an impact. I also realized that me and a couple of my co-workers could easily bluff that we have a bomb and hijack the plane. I said to myself it was a matter of days or weeks given the recent surge in suicide islam bombs. Imagine how it makes me feel, someone who predicted the attack and that it would be successful listen to your sh*t-brain a**.

The buildings began collapsing at the exact places where the fire was burning. Once it start coming down it is all over. Each floor that falls is 1000s of tons of concrete impacting the next floor at 30 mph. Trust me, this is much more effective than a shape charge. There have been construction disasters where a top floor fails during the construction and then causes an unstopable chain reaction that last for seconds. All the workers on the floors would be paper thin paste. It has happened before with much lighter weight floors.

Here is the dumbest thing you have not though of. The WTC HAS AN EXOSKELETON!!!!!!!!!!! The shape charges would have been on the outer edge of the building you f****** i****. If there was all these explosions we would have seen them because the outside of the building holds it up. If the government was behind this they would have used a building that they could have at least been successful at hiding these shape charges in. OMG. Why didnt they Use the empire state building, or the sears tower. These are not exoskeletons. But that doesn't even matter because the planes' fuel alone would have been sufficient to take out anyone of the buildings. All this I knew well before the attack. If I wanted to do it, I could have done it with some of my friends, if we were as crazy as you.

Ever heard of Billy Mitchell? He did the same thing I did basically. He was being court-martialed in the 1920s because he believed that air power was the future of military power. Under oath he was questioned about his theory that Peral Harbor would soon be completely destroyed by an opposing aerial force. His prosecutor asked him who would pull it off and he said, "The Nation will be Japan."

He also said that planes would soon be going over 1000 miles an hour and no one had any idea how that could be possible at that time. He was a visionary.

Why don't you go concoct some dumbass story about how the US painted a bunch a planes like Japanese ziros and then attacked their own military base you f****** i****

Wake up and see what is really going on in the land of the free.

What is going on is a bunch of f****** i***** like you are smoking bananas. It would take a conspiracy bigger than anything ever imagined for no reason at all to pull off what you are saying. The people on the fourth plane called their loved ones and told them that middle eastern terrorists have hijacked them. Then they heard of the impacts and tried to take back the plane but the hijackers crashed it.

No one called their loved ones and reported CIA suicide bombers you f****** i****. Even without the impact the buildings would have fallen from the fire alone. That is why they put fire proofing on the steel. Steel isn't flamable you f****** m****. It falls apart when fire touches it for too long under the intense weight of the concrete and steel it is supporting. If you try to get approval for a building that does not have this 20 minutes of protective coating on it the building inspector will laugh at you and call you a f****** m*****. I saw a building inspector pissed off one time because a 6 inch by 6 inch section of a beam was only 50% covered. If you ask him why it is a problem he will tell you, "because then you will only have ten minutes before the building could collapse in a fire you f****** m****!!!!" That building didnt support nearly as much wieght as the trade center.

SFT if you seriously believe this crap that you have told me you should change your name to, "serchforthedumbestliesofalltime."

I am going to ask simon to ban you for posting this crap. You are an idiot to say that the Government caused the attack. You should be ashamed of youself. If you were standing here...... I had a freind of my dad's say the same thing. I swear, he was a good guy but I was about to get up and punch his ligths out, I should have. Some one should punch your lights out.

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George Bush's excuse is good enough for me !

by searchfothetruth in

i am really excited by george bush's latest reason for bombing iraq: he's running out of patience.

for some time now i've been really pi##ed off with mr johnson, who lives a couple of doors down the street.

well, him and mr patel, who runs the health food shop.they both give me queer looks, and i'm sure mr johnson is planning something nasty for me, but so far i haven't been able to discover what.. i've been round to his place a few times to see what he's up to, but he's got everything well hidden.

starScream

amac,

Ruby Ridge or Waco, TX.

Try taking the side of people who AREN'T INSANE sometime. The Feds did not set fire to the Branch Davidian compound. That is just a false accusation they did it to themselves. What would you have the government do? Leave them alone and not enforce the law? That makes perfect sense.

Ruby ridge was the fault of Randy Weaver and his freinds. The wife was also to blame. She could have left. The sniper was given orders to take out anyone who had a gun. He took aim at someone who he thought was Randy Weaver and that person did have a gun. Just as he pulled the trigger the wife came through a door and stepped right in front of the shot. It was a freak accident but not the Government's Fault. Criminals are responsible for their actions. The Government enforces the law.

Unfortunately the Tim McVeighs of the world, like you, Still think the Feds were wrong in both cases.

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The U.S. already has the RIGHT to wage war on IRAQ

by starScream in

whether a u.s. lead invasion of iraq is necessary or not the united states has that right and here is why.

in 1990 the u.n. security council authorized the use of military force to expel the iraqi army from kuwait.

british and u.s. forces were the dominant contributors to the coalition.

starScream

pr_capone,

LOLOLOOLOLLOLOLOOLLMAO. Those were some great posts. I really wish Germany would go crazy again and just take France out of our hands. You are right. I would let them keep that smelly country this time.

Brigadoon,

During WW2 the German Military had incredible power. They had all but conquered europe in a few months. Japan without warning bombed the crap out of Pearl Harbor and then Germany declared war on us as well. Germany got bombed during WW2? I apoligize for not acting like the French surrender monkeys. The responsibility for the bombing of Germany lied in the hands of all the Wehrmacht, SS, Nazi party leaders and every idiot German that was in favor of Lebens Raum, Not the allied powers.

Over 500,000 brave Americans gave their lives in world war 2 for France, Britain, Italy...... Not exactly the

In every other war since, Americans have gone abroad to wreak destruction.

you speak of new sense.

Brigadoon,

Your country has either completely forgot its crimes of the twentieth century or is ungreatful for the fogiveness it has been given.

Maybe they are using their damned nuke bombs then against the whole world; but thats destiny;-( Its just armageddon then. Doesn`t matter;-)

Did you eat a lot of paint chips as a kid?

Realist,

the US has broken the rules it forces upon others. this war is a criminal attack on a sovereign country. no law justifies this action.

You have obviously ignored my post. We had an agreement with the Iraqi government. If they did not want the agreement they should not have made it. We are about to stop a potential Hitler, who was the leader of a country that was bound to the treaty of Versailles. This potential Hitler agreed to a cease-fire under conditions. We have the right to enforce that agreement, he broke it not us.

the US was NOT authorized by the UN to occupy iraq!!! so you are talking BS.

When war is authorized, the overthrow of that country's criminal government is authorized. Occupation is not the objective. Regime change and disarmament are the objective. If the new government wants the support of the US it can allow a US presence. We don't need to get UN approval for something that a Sovereign government allows within its borders.

you morons do not realize that bush is not attacking iraq to help the average american but to allow a couple of filthy rich bastards to get just a little more influencial.

That's a moronic and arbitrary accusation. What you don't realize is Iraq has been attacking British and American aircraft for over 10 years in violation of the cease fire agreement.

Brigadoon,

Now you are just being ridiculous.

Why didn`t the US-troups free the Jews from the concentration camps, though they had the means to do it?

First of all reconnaissance technology in those days had minimal range. We had no idea what was happening to the Jews until we, yes, went in AND LIBERATED THEM. What the hell is your argument. You are saying we didn't do what we did? Hello? THE GERMAN SS, THATS RIGHT YOU GUYS WERE THE ONES MURDERING THE JEWS YOU POS. OUR PEOPLE DIED TO SAVE THEM. YOU ARE INSANE

No, they were too coward to go in with paratrooper... Instead of this, they bombed the civilian people and the cities down to 95% destruction...

Coward!!??!?!?!?! Wait was that my grandfather that STORMED THE BEACHES OF NORMANDY? Or was that some other country that did that? No that was US. The cowards. So according to you storming into the most insane battle ever is cowardly and murderring defenseless jews is brave. You are just the most, oh my god i cant believe how dumb you are.

OMG. The concenetration camps were out of our range from the air you stupid individual. Some were all the way out in the UKRAINE. HELLO? THAT IS RUSSIA's territory. We had the western front. GET A MAP SOMETIME. Then you can learn about the range of fighter escort craft in WW2.

Amac,

StarScream -

I think you may be talking out of your bottom. The end of the Gulf War had nothing to do with an "act of mercy" cease fire.

It did not come from my bottom. The cease fire agreement exists. It is a real document. The people that wrote and proposed it, ie Powell and Bush, said they wanted to end the war because we were slaughtering the Iraqi Army too easily. Other Generals like Schwartzkopf were PISSED AS F*** about it. HE WAS SO PISSED OFF. They didn't care about showing mercy to a bunch of SS muderers, they wanted to get the republican guard and Saddam. We agreed to let them off the hook if they agreed to certain conditions of the cease fire. They have broken their promise and they have to face the consequences.

Sorry, but there was no pause button on that war

Yes there was. Iraq agreed to the button and then started shooting again once the smoke cleared.

The US was supposed to get Iraq out of Kuwait, NOT OCCUPY IRAQ.

We have been occupying Iraqi airspace the entire decade. We did not initially have UN authorization for this but the Iraqis agreed to it so we would let them off the hook. In addition. When Iraq was out of Kuwait we pursued them into Iraq and killed them. It was our Job to not only kick them out but to crush the threat. We agreed to let the threat disarm itself peacefully out of mercy. It has defied this and until the cease-fire agreement we have the right to pick up where we left off. If the Iraqis don't like that then they should have kept fighting back then and said, "No we reject the conditions of your agreement." had they done that we would have simply done what we are doing now. They made a promise though and then they broke it. That does not work. If it does then we can't Make cease-fire agreements in the future. That would be unfair to the people that do want cease-fire agreements.

The only way that war could be continued is if Iraq occupied Kuwait again.

That is just wrong. If Iraq violates international law then it can be dealt with. If Iraq violates the conditions of the cease-fire agreement it can be dealt with.

Simon,

I have been looking for the quote but it was something along the lines as,**If this war is allowed because of some agreement then no war ever ends...**

WW1 did not end. It became WW2 because no one wanted to enforce the treaty of Versailles and we ended up with an even bigger war than the pre-emtive war that should have been fought, which was legal under the treaty. We could have prevented WW2 with minimal casualties compared to the 50 million people that died because we let the threat get out of control.

We are in the same situation as the rising third reich that was under the treaty of versailles. We have a treaty from Iraq and multiple UN mandates. It is not an illegal war.

It took 9-11 to wake you out of a Neville Chamberlain slumber?

The jews have a saying. It goes like this. "Never again." The US has learned from the mistakes of complacency to Hitler and the Wehrmacht. We are acting on the treaties that we make. .

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DON'T MAKE A TREATY WITH THE U.S. AND EXPECT THAT IT CAN BE BROKEN. We are not the league of nations and our cease-fire agreement will not be treated like the treaty of versailles.

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The U.S. already has the RIGHT to wage war on IRAQ

by starScream in

whether a u.s. lead invasion of iraq is necessary or not the united states has that right and here is why.

in 1990 the u.n. security council authorized the use of military force to expel the iraqi army from kuwait.

british and u.s. forces were the dominant contributors to the coalition.

starScream

It's like a Rage Against The Machine lyric...

Its too bad rage against the machine had to waste their talent as anti-american commi girls.

Turbo-capitalism? Define this concept, please.

I actually agree with him that America has a turbo capitalism problem. It is not related to our foriegn policy though and only goes where it is wanted.

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The U.S. already has the RIGHT to wage war on IRAQ

by starScream in

whether a u.s. lead invasion of iraq is necessary or not the united states has that right and here is why.

in 1990 the u.n. security council authorized the use of military force to expel the iraqi army from kuwait.

british and u.s. forces were the dominant contributors to the coalition.

starScream

Brigadoon,

Who are you, and where do you live. If you are the enemy I'm not going to try to rationalize with you.