Miss.Fit

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  Millions die in Natural disasters - God is doing nothing. Do I adopt Anthropomorphism to him?

  by KateWild in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i do not think god is a'morphic.

  god is not human, so hence he does not possess human characteristics, to know god better and to understand him better i study science.

  there has been a new discovery of strange signals picked up from black holes and distant supernovae suggest there's more to space-time than einstein believed.

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  Miss.Fit

  Hi Kate.

  I don't think we've "met" yet.

  I have enjoyed your posts and I listened to your JC on youtube.

  I saw your posts on Cofty's thread. I like the way you don't back down.

  Re: your OP- If you are going by the bible then you know it teachesbthat god created humans in his image. That would mean he would give us his qualities.

  Also if you were looking at creation it could be seen as an act of a loving god.

  Having said that, I must tell you I don't know what to think any more.

  I do think that your idea of an emotionless god makes more sense. My husband believes there is a creator but we humans are so insignificant it doesnt make sense that god would even take time to deal with us.

  Do you feel that way also?

  I also believe in a creator.

  Miss. Fit
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  The Pastor of my Old Church Tried to Re-Convert Me Yesterday

  by cofty in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  yesterday evening my wife and i were invited to friends house for new year's eve.

  we met them when i was a christian and we have kept in touch.

  they had a few other friends there as well, including the new church pastor and his wife.

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  Would "God is a free agent and can choose not to" be # 17?

  also what about the " we are being tested" (Job) argument, would that be # 18?

  I am enjoying this thread. It has really made me think.

  Adam needs to be more patient and less condescending. We are all on different levels here. I didn't even know what a fallacy was until I came to this forum. Sometimes we don't know what we don't know. I always appreciate the links and the reading suggestions.

  Miss Fit.
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  In 12 Lines or Less: GIVE US YOUR AUTOBIOGRAPHY POETICALLY

  by Terry in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  autobiography.

  forever began at the day of my birth, but, it turns out that it was a lie,.

  i am who i am when nobody's watching, then nothing is there to deny.. .

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  Miss.Fit

  Bumping for any new ones that would like to contribute.
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  Your most DISTURBING WATCHTOWER Bethel/Branch experience? (No full names please)

  by Balaamsass in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  ok.. you 70 plus bethelite members.... this is your chance to share stories!

  inquiring minds want to know !no full names please..follow t.o.s.

  to avoid borg libel lawsuits).. i will start the ball rolling with week one.

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  Bttt
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  Our teenagers first Christmas tree

  by truthseekeriam in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  we had fun putting together our first artificial tree last week, it came out so pretty!

  the lights and cheap ornaments just add to it.. we have been careful to close our blinds at night to avoid our jw neighbors from calling in the elders, that worked for a few days until we decided to go out for an early dinner and yes, i forgot to close the blinds!

  as we drove up to the garage door i could see the tree in the front room and started to freak out a little.

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  I put 2 small table top trees up as an experiment. No lighting strikes yet.

  I usually decorate a small tree at work and put decorations up. (No one at work knows about my jw affliction.)

  This year I realised there was no reason why I couldnt actually have my own tree in my own house.

  My children are between 17 and 25 yrs. old and not baptised or believers. We never celebrated christmas. They are not sure how to react.
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  JWs, evolution and fossils

  by Oh Gawd in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  a while back my fil was on a kick about earthquakes, tornadoes and hurricanes.

  after bombarding him with actual facts showing the wts is full of shit when declaring these activies to be increasing in frequency he's now dropped that subject.

  of coure he never admitted to being wrong..haha.

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  Snare&racket:

  That was the exact coversation my daughter had with me. I was the jw and she was answering those objections.

  My advice: go slow. It is still taking me awhile to erase the automatic responses. I have asked my daughter the same questions in different ways trying to understand how wrong I was and how little I really knew.

  She would listen to the reasonings I would spout out and show me proof that it was not possible.
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  My 10 000th Post

  by cofty in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  in honour of this personal landmark i have decided to choose my personal top 5 threads i am pleased to have posted.. 1. jehovah's witnesses view of jesus compared to the early church.

  2. soldiers of jah.

  3. the current state of the watchtower & the cynicism of soviet communism.

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  Cofty...I have been wanting to let you know how much I enjoy your posts. If I see your name on any posts I make sure to check it. You usually have something to make me think. Some times I read someone's post and think "I can't wait til Cofty sees that one! "

  Miss.Fit
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  Have you put on the "New Personality" ?

  by Phizzy in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  when we were in we were often read that scripture and told we should work hard at putting on the new personality, which in wt speak meant their cult personality, nothing like the person of christ.. since leaving it has become necessary for us to make deep internal changes, to our worldview, to our emotions, and to our actions.. we have had to change from being controlled in all these areas by the wt cult, to forming our own new personality.. for born-ins like me this is really quite a task, we do not have a "pre-cult" personality to "recover".

  but even for converts, there is stilll this work to do, before you joined you may have been racist, homophobic, or perhaps a thief, or immoral in some other way, surely you do not wish to "recover" those aspects of your original personality ?so you too have to "put on" a new one.. how are we all doing with this ?

  i know that for me i feel it is still a work in progress, i need to work on certain things that are the result of my being in the jw/wt scam for all those decades, and some things that are a part of my natural personality which are not desireable as traits, laziness for example, and i am the arch-procrastinator, not good.. how do you guys feel you are doing since leaving ?.

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  Thanks Jnat. I am bad at puzzles. I get impatient and try to force the pieces to fit.
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  Have you put on the "New Personality" ?

  by Phizzy in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  when we were in we were often read that scripture and told we should work hard at putting on the new personality, which in wt speak meant their cult personality, nothing like the person of christ.. since leaving it has become necessary for us to make deep internal changes, to our worldview, to our emotions, and to our actions.. we have had to change from being controlled in all these areas by the wt cult, to forming our own new personality.. for born-ins like me this is really quite a task, we do not have a "pre-cult" personality to "recover".

  but even for converts, there is stilll this work to do, before you joined you may have been racist, homophobic, or perhaps a thief, or immoral in some other way, surely you do not wish to "recover" those aspects of your original personality ?so you too have to "put on" a new one.. how are we all doing with this ?

  i know that for me i feel it is still a work in progress, i need to work on certain things that are the result of my being in the jw/wt scam for all those decades, and some things that are a part of my natural personality which are not desireable as traits, laziness for example, and i am the arch-procrastinator, not good.. how do you guys feel you are doing since leaving ?.

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  Lisa Rose- I was born in. I agree with you that it is hard to seperate the JW teaching and our natural traits. I too have struggled with low self esteem and extreme self doubt.

  Jgnat....I was in the same boat... except It was child abuse instead of spousal. I am 50 now and am still working on finding the pieces.
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  There's a little Houdini in all of us

  by freeflyingfaerie in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  as i responded to an earlier post it occured to me that those of us who have been in the religion for any length of time are like harry houdini, the illusionist.. we willingly (for those that chose to really believe the lies) bound ourselves in chains.. we always had the opportunity to releaase ourselves...it was all an illusion...an illusion that we played along with.

  but the option to end the mental confinement was always within our power.. going door to door we must have looked like a freak show to others.

  we put ourselves in a glass cage in chains, as a "spectacle",...in which we were unwittingly frauds, because the whole time we could have gotton free.. that's all for now... .

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  Most born ins did not choose to be raised as a jw. We were spoon fed fantasies and pipe dreams and wrapped in a chain of lies. We were put in the glass cage of guilt not realising we were trapped. Freedom was the illusion. Those who stayed in the middle never realised they were captive. Those who strayed to the edges were the ones that discovered the glass wall.