OK I know that this thread has probably been done a hundred times but for us former r/f members these stories are fascinating. So if you have any first hand stories or even passed on stories please post them.
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3Bethel experiences, gossip, scandals!
by Azalo inok i know that this thread has probably been done a hundred times but for us former r/f members these stories are fascinating.
so if you have any first hand stories or even passed on stories please post them.
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"Bush fiddles with economy while Baghdad burns"
by Simon inan interesting article which somewhat reflects my own take on what i see happening.
please note that this does not put any judgement on whether i think it is a good thing or not so please do not "shoot the messenger".. whether you believe or accept the points or not it is an interesting read.
i personally think that the action bush has taken in the last few years has done more harm to the usa than it's enemies ever could which is surely a crime?..
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Azalo
and i might add that the threat of losing one's livelihood is just as strong a deterrent as a fine or other legal consequence.
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"Bush fiddles with economy while Baghdad burns"
by Simon inan interesting article which somewhat reflects my own take on what i see happening.
please note that this does not put any judgement on whether i think it is a good thing or not so please do not "shoot the messenger".. whether you believe or accept the points or not it is an interesting read.
i personally think that the action bush has taken in the last few years has done more harm to the usa than it's enemies ever could which is surely a crime?..
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Azalo
it is a ludicrous accusation to say people are having their freedom of speech curtailed
true there are no laws limiting people on the left to voice their opinions, however the political climate is becoming very Mcarthy like in that saying anything anti-war or against the gov't's policies is equated with being anti-american and thus sowing the seeds of growing intolerance and loss of freedom. michael moore can say whatever he wants because people expect that of him but the dixie chicks may have committed career suicide for one statement and the subsequent backlash; not very different from what happened to anyone accused of communism back in the 50's
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For those of you with personal experiences with the GB...
by logansrun inlet me start off by saying that i am fully and utterly through with the jws from both a logical and emotional point of view.
i'm happy and content in my decision to leave.
but one thing that i find very curious is the personalities of the gb members themselves.
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Azalo
gamaliel:
those were great "experiences", i'd love to hear more.
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"Bush fiddles with economy while Baghdad burns"
by Simon inan interesting article which somewhat reflects my own take on what i see happening.
please note that this does not put any judgement on whether i think it is a good thing or not so please do not "shoot the messenger".. whether you believe or accept the points or not it is an interesting read.
i personally think that the action bush has taken in the last few years has done more harm to the usa than it's enemies ever could which is surely a crime?..
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Azalo
great article and scary being that i am american. i fear for my daughters because i know that this world will be a far different place when they grow up.
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Should WOMEN Serve in Combat???
by JT infor anyone who knows me, i have always been a very strong support for women's right to do as they please in life, but today we had a very interesting discussion about this issue>.
this is to me one area where i wonder is it really the best thing to do, not so much because of how we in the west perhaps view women in positions and power, but how women are often times viewed by those that we maybe at war with.
culturally as men we have been conditioned to protect the woman- in fact in almost all cultures that i can think of that basic mindset is held by most men i would dare say-.
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Azalo
if they want to, sure
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Azalo
i'm sure they will take you even if you dont make weight the military has waivers for these kind of things, but i would recommend at least getting your stamina up cause you dont want to stand out in basic by say not being able to complete a run or something like that. blend in as much as possible. and dont volunteer for anything
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Major WTS Prophecy goes down to defeat !!!
by Amazing inmany here may recall that the watchtower society has published much material on the prophetic role of the united nations ... specifically, the united nations is the scarlet colored wild beast, the "image" of the worldly 7 headed wild political beast ... it would be given life by the two-horned dual world power of britain and america, the "lamb-like beast spoken of in revelation ... this "image" beast would be given power to rule one prophetic hour over the nations as they subordinate their national sovereignty to it ... and so on ...
then ... after the creation of the united nations in 1945 in san francisco the wts interpreted revelation regarding the demise of the old league of nations to apply to a statement in revelation that this "image" beast would be revived in the form of the united nations ... seemingly, the wts was on to something ... and for the next 45 years (until about 1990) the watchtower published anything and everything they could to make their interpretation stick with respect to how deep in the time of the end they believed we were living in ... then, about 1990, the watchtower society joined the un as a member ngo ... a significant departure from their previous stand on political neutrality ... and ... hatred of satan's old system of things ... certainly, since we are nearly 90 years into the last days of this wicked system we would expect the un to be in control or at least taking the lead ...
so, now ... where do we stand as of march 19th, 2003?
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Azalo
Hurt: this is a previous post of yours what happened did u do a 180, just seems strange
There is,of course, some point in reasoning with current JWs. The problemis doingit effectively, without all the hot air. A thoughtful comment, without being pushy, particularly if very brief, and delivered without criticism, could get the thinking-type JW really thinking. I'e seen this happen to an elder I casually mentioned the UN matter to. there was no argument or any overt attempt at concincing him. Just mentioned how disaapointed one was that the Society will be hunting with the hares and running with the hounds; condeming the churches of Christiandom and at the same time preparingthe papers for registration with the UN DPI (Department of Public Information), and that the requestion for deletion was too close to the Stephen Bates article for any comfort. He did his own research. His findingout stuff. I'm unhappy formakinghim unhappy. But try making omelette without breaking eggs... So just take it easy. Don't do it with all that steam in you. Easy does it. It's a slow process, like evolution...
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An elder left a paper at my door
by JH insince the last 6 weeks, the elders are trying to get a hold of me, but i specialize in being invisible.
so now they left a little paper at my door asking that i call elder x so that he can talk to me.
do you think i should keep on avoiding them since they are about to end their 3 month call on inactive ones?
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Azalo
i agree that you should act like younever received it or just flat refuse to meet them and if they df you sue them for slander or something
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Shunning Info
by Scooby indoes anybody know what publication this is from?
i need to know when i call my brother in law today.
thanks- scooby
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Azalo
i believe its from the Kingdom Ministry August 2002