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This weeks WT "Let Your Kingdom Come"

by Legacy in

jw
friends

so the wt states "the horsemen have made their appearance".

in 1914, jesus christ is pictured as riding a white horse-was given his heavenly crown.

rev.

Legacy

@Clambake,

They just parrot what they hear. They know it compared to others, which gives them the advantage. But once you read the bible for yourself, you'll find out what they really DON'T KNOW. All they care about is that they are in God's org...that's all it's about. If the FDS went back to celebrating Xmas, they would just keep it moving...especially if they claim Jesus/Jehovah/Holy Spirit told them. They base their doctrine around 1914....When Jesus became THE King... invisible....by the way. So if you didn't see it, how can you debate it didn't happen. That's why they can claim it. They don't claim anything that is visible...How can we know Jesus isn't Michael, because that's invisible too.

Don't be surprised about witnesses...they don't know or even believe that there are sexual abuse cases....

Legacy

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This weeks WT "Let Your Kingdom Come"

by Legacy in

jw
friends

so the wt states "the horsemen have made their appearance".

in 1914, jesus christ is pictured as riding a white horse-was given his heavenly crown.

rev.

Legacy

Hi,

So the WT states "The Horsemen have made their appearance". In 1914, Jesus Christ is pictured as riding a white horse-was given his heavenly crown. Rev. 6

Rev. 6:1 The lamb opens one of the 7 seals
6:3: When he opened the 2 nd seal (who is the he, is it the lamb, but it can’t be…he’s on the white horse…conquering)

6:5 When he opened the 3 rd seal (again who is he)

6:7 When he opened the 4 th

6:9 When he opened the 5 th

6:12 I saw (that’s Paul), when he opened the 6 th seal

6:16 Hide us from the face of the one seated on the Throne (that’s God/Jah, right) ? & from the wrath of the Lamb…can’t hide from the lamb cuz he riding around on a white horse (side point, White horses are generally refused in war because they make the rider a mark for the enemy), just a side point …

(JesusChrist), opens the first four of the seven seals, which summons four beings that ride out on white, red, black, and pale horses.

So is the WT right about saying that Jesus is riding the white horse..how can he be riding the horse & opening the seals...

The real question is who is "HE" in each verse..does he/The Lamb, let God take over opening the seals ?

Forum is open.

Legacy

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When a Jehovah's Witness asks "When are you coming back to the Truth"

by Watchtower-Free in

apostate & ex-jehovalarious meme collection.

https://www.facebook.com/groups/jwmeme/.

Legacy

Hi,

Question: When are you coming back to the truth?

Answer: When you begin to tell the truth.

There you go, easy brezzy,

Legacy

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What's your response to Matthew 10:37 (greater love for mom and dad then Jesus)???

by jam in

used to justify shunning..

Legacy

Hi,

Didn't Jesus said he came to divide ? The message here is Faith vs Non-faith. If the family is that hard core that if you are a christian & all they do is badger you about being a christian & in your heart & mind that's what you believe. You can do one of 2 things, stay & show by your conduct & then you may win them over. Most families don't care what you believe, just don't force feed them. How many women are Christians & their hubby's aren't ? The wives go to a place of worship & their hubby stays home for some peace & quiet, or he'll go if that's his mind-set. If you love God/Jesus/Jehovah more than your family that's ok, as long as you don't neglect your family. It's a heart condition. If your hubby or wife says that there is no God, all you can do is try to convince them. The other choice is to leave them, but that's a bit drastic. I think this scripture just makes one think, that's all. Mom & Dad are great, but to believe in something other than man, isn't such a bad thing. I actually think it's humbling. Some ways of worship are more fanatical than others.

To me it's a personal choice. It shouldn't be religion that breaks up a families. Only fanatical religions do that...I had a friend who was in a large family. Some of them were witnesses. So the witnesses where watching their association with others of the same family. Well don't you know, some others became Muslin/Islamic, not sure, but anyway...The witnesses would call on the Muslims & they would say, we can't associate with you, we were told to watch who we get this...ASSOCIATE WITH...so the witnesses came running to my friend & said, so & so won't talk or associate with us...my friend turned to them & said....WELL YOU DID THE SAME THING...do I wish I was a fly on the wall when she said that...what I find out about witnesses is when they say certain things, it makes them feel religious, but when you say it back to them when someone else does what they do...it doesn't sound so nice.

I am a witness. I'm an opened mind witness...I know, those words don't match. I drink the kool-aide I like & lines up with the bible, the rest I spit out...at home...I keep my mouth shut, if I disagree, it's none of their business...The relationship is between me & God. It's like dating, sometimes you get introduced to someone & it works...being a witness works for me. But I come on this site to vent & to make sure that I hear one thing then read the bible & it doesn't line up. But as far as I'm concerned....No man has God right....he wants us to love one another & take care of one another...no more no less

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What do you think are the future doctrine changes will be?

by thedepressedsoul in

the whole organization is going through huge and big changes.

it can be seen by names of departments, to how things function and teaches.

my questions to you is, what do you think the future changes will be, both in teaching and organizational matters?.

Legacy

@ Separation of Flowers....

Faith is a supporting actor to Hope....

Legacy

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Jesus is his earthly name, Michael is his heavenly name

by bruh2012 in

i know this topic has been discussed before on this forum, but as it goes in jw world we need reminders.. co said in his last talk i can't remember the title in speaking about jesus, that when jesus returned to heaven he resumed his name michael.

jesus was his earthly name.. through the entire rest of the bible after his ressurection not one reference is made about this.

case in point----when jesus oh wait michael pulled saul over and talked to him, he introduced his self as jesus.

Legacy

Hi,

If those in other religions speculate that God is a trinity & it's not in there, you can say the same for the witnesses...Speculate that Michael is Jesus. Doesn't Jesus say in one scripture, I am the reflection of God...you could use that to justify The Trinity....The witnesses say it's not in the scriptures, well neither is Michael being Jesus in there, it's a formula they thought of themselves. But Hebrews 1 (I think) says to what Angel did God ever say "Today you are my son" now that is clear cut & to the point. I think they would love to take back what they said about Michael, but they are in enough hot water. They will die with that one. I think the friends would really look at them differently if they did. I do notice they only say it every now & again. Does anyone ever think that the thought of Michael being Jesus will eventually fade ?

Legacy

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JW.Org

by Kool Jo in

i've been pondering......with this new "push" to direct individuals to thw jw.org website, even when the dubs are out preaching...what do you think the future will be for the preaching work?.

some time ago i read that the mormons have implemented a live chat feature that allows you to speak with their missionaries....i doubt the borg would do this, but i think they have something up their sleeves.. peace.

kool jo.

Legacy

HI,

Many of them do go on other sites, but they won't say. Then there are some who are afraid to go to other sites. Afraid they may have been mislead & how many folks have they shunned or not associated with because of being a witness. They can't afford to know the truth about the truth..They have insulated themselves within the org. & can't reach out. They think that the world is like them, but what they don't know is the world is ready to take them back, anytime. Most of the witness have to have structure, told what to think & what to do. Many of them are not balanced in the brain, most religious folks are extremist. They really can't direct their own steps. They stay with the org. because it's supposedly God's org & that's their claim to fame. How do you pry someone away from an org. that claims to talk to God personally ? You can't because that's the clincher right there...or Badge of honor.

JW.org, is a nice web-site for those you don't want to think just be told, if it was a real friendly web-site, they would allow conversations but they don't. It's all about them & what they believe, no questions asked...Not very interactive, but that's the way they want it. The ones who log on, just listen, obey & hope THE ORG. allows God to bless you. I like it for children, at least there are no inappropriate pop-ups...Child friendly.

Legacy

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What Ailed Those Pilots ... ?

by snowbird in

the pilots and crew of the missing plane, was something wrong with all of them?.

sylvia.

Legacy

@Snowbird,

Thanks... I love the US of A, but we know who we are, we can lie to everyone but ourselves. There are so many unanswered questions The US has never answered, this may well be one of them....I just can't believe they can't track the plane....with all the devices & technology in today's world....Don't believe it. It's human error & in today's world, no one likes to be accountable...Everyone is pointing their fingers at the other guy.

See God should have never given us "Free-will" he should have made us Faithful Robots & as time went by we could earn "Free-will"...Man can't stand too much freedom...

Again, we live in a point & click world, don't have to think & don't want to think, unless it has to do with oneself....Sad...

What we can all do is pray for the passengers, crew & loved ones....that's what we all can do...Come out of ourselves & think of others for a change...

What a thought, uh ?

Legacy

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What Ailed Those Pilots ... ?

by snowbird in

the pilots and crew of the missing plane, was something wrong with all of them?.

sylvia.

Legacy

Hi All,

Interesting thoughts...Here's a question for all of you...who killed JFK, did RFK run from the scene of the crime when that woman fell into the water? All these questions have not really been answered as of today. 60 minutes has been on since I was a child, I am now 60...every weekend, they expose one thing or another...when do they ever run out of things to expose...There is so much going on that the public doesn't even know....the media is in bed with the govenment....they tell us what they think we want to hear...they blindside us by telling us, things that really don't matter like who is sleeping with whom...But where the plane is, they can only speculate....when & where was the last communication with the pilot ? I think they know, but don't want to alarm the public...since 911, Americans are jumpy..I would love to do more travelling, but folks today are too careless...Too busy on their phones, Ipads, Kindles, etc. to pay attention to their jobs. We live in a point & click generation, if there is not icon to point to on how to get one out of a mess, they are clueless...the art of thinking is...GONE...

What I do hope is that they find the plane & all is well....& if the gov't knows something...at least tell the loved ones of the passengers...this is pure torture for them.

Legacy

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Where Do You Think That Plane Is?

by minimus in

jw
friends

what do you think happened?

?.

Legacy

Hi,

Don't mean to be heartless, but has anyone bothered to ask, Tatoo...He was able to tell Ricardo Maltaban (on Fantasy Island)...One thing Tatoo can spot, is...The plane boss, the plane boss...then he points & that's it...

I'm just saying...

I do truly hope, they find the plane & all is well...I know that's very pollyanna of me...but what do we have if we don't have hope....

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