Posts by gitasatsangha

The suggestion has been raised in the last few hours that the '100-ft
asteroid' due to near-miss Earth in a few hours is not a'natural' space
rock, but a leftover space booster or 'SLA' (one of four panels encasing the
Lunar Module during launch) panel, from the Apollo program. If so, since
these 20 to 30 ft objects were painted white, they would be able to reflect
as much sunlight as a relatively DARK asteroid that would have been of the
estimated size, based on the observed brightness.

Two years ago, the Saturn 4B last stage of the Apollo-12 mission (1969),
sent into a shorter, quicker orbit of the Sun, 'lapped' the Earth and showed
up again (33 years later), spending several months swinging back and forth
around the Moon before drifting off into interplanetary space again. An
earlier 'asteroid' that flew past Earth, 1991-VG, was long suspected of
being of similar origin.

Spectroscopic and infra-red observations should be able to confirm this
quickly. They will be able to recognize the characteristics of the paint
used on the old space objects.

There IS a lot of natural 'space junk' out there, more than any amount of
man-made stuff, but the orbit of THIS object is special enough (see note
from the Science Applications International Corporation scientist, below) to
be suspicious, at least. The BBC piece, attached also below, raises this
possibility too.

The original SLA panels accompanied the Apollo capsules on the way to the
Moon, and were observed and commented on my astronauts. These comments
freaked out a lot of 'UFO nuts', especially from Apollo-11 and Apollo-12
air-to-ground conversations, who saw the lights as 'fleets of UFOs' keeping
formation with the Earth's moonships. These stories are still passed around
on the Internet UFO pages as grist for the weak-minded and the
eager-believers.

A view of the 4 'SLA Panels' unfolded is at
http://apollomaniacs.web.infoseek.co.jp/apollo/cg/sla/SLA05.jpg (also see
mek.kosmo.cz/pil_lety/usa/ apollo/ap-7/a7s4b2.jpg) with the hardware
explained at http://apollomaniacs.web.infoseek.co.jp/apollo/slae.htm

The entire S4B last stage is seen at perso.wanadoo.fr/max.q/apollo/
vaisseaux/sat5.htm, and this is probably what came back to Earth two years
ago. After Apollo-12, all the S4B stages were impaced onto the moon to ring
the seisomometers, but the S4Bs from Apollo-8, Apollo-9 (YES!), and 10, 11,
and 12 were sent into solar orbit.

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Mass Disassociations

by Elsewhere in

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would there happen to be a group here who all attend the same kh?

i was just thinking how great it would be for several people to da in mass... one person per week.

every week for several weeks the elders have to get on stage and announce that so-and-so daed themselve.. this would certainly cause a lot of people at the congregation to start asking questions!

I know of a specific congregation that was dissolved over some a dispute, which involved a CO, but I don't know if dissassociations were involved. I do remember that the next CO blurted out that it was wrong for a "hatchet man" to come down and wreck a congregation. It was pretty clear he was talking about the dissolved congregation, and even more shocking that he was referring apparently to the previous CO. I was pretty young, but I remember everyone's eyes were wide as saucers. There was some talk, but no one ever told me what happened with that situation, and I hadn't really thought about it till now. The CO who called another Society rep a "hatchet man" from the platform, was Jessy Cantwell, someone who had no problem excercising his "freeness of speech".

The congregation that was dissolved was in Mountain City, Tennessee.

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Passing the time at JW Assemblies

by Leolaia in

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love_truth, in describing the utter dullness of jw assemblies and conventions, just gave me an interesting idea for a thread.

what were some of the ways you tried to make the hours pass?

some of mine: looking at the interesting refracting patterns the arena floodlights made on my eyeglasses when looking thru them at an angle.looking for people i knew from my congregation and others in the mass of people in the arena.counting the number of people leaving the section to go to the bathroompractice writing people's names in elvish scripthaving a conversation with friends a row behind me by passing notes back and forthseeing how many pages of my bible stick together when i slam a wad of gum in between its pages.. what else?

gitasatsangha

Practice writing people's names in Elvish script

I wish I'd known you back then.

Here's some of my things.

Borrow Dad's "Drama Binoculars" to check out the "sisters"
Counting the lights, and then the ceilign tiles (if the venue had them), then recounting and checking for errors.
Imagine various heavy things falling from the ceiling
Pretending I was one of the Tomorrow People, and mentally jamming the speaker. Whenever he stammered or lost he place, I had a brief private thrill. Maybe...
Putting Salivdor Dali moustaches on faces in illustrations in the literature.
Various daydreaming, sometimes helped with the aid of Drama Binoculars.
Hiding erection, hoping it would go away before the song. (see above)
Writing out the program in dwarven runes (see.. coulda been made for each other.
Talking to a friend till we got in trouble.
Finger puppets!
Falling aslep during baptismal prayer, then catching myself falling asleep during the baptismal prayer, then having to say a prayer for forgiveness for falling asleep in the middle of the baptismal prayer, quickly finishing it with a fast andinjesusnameweprayamen routing call, before getting back in sync with main prayer.
Reading the new literature (passed the time)
Wishing orange juice would thaw. Holding it, to encourage it to thaw.
Imaginging the girl from the next congregation sitting across from elderly seating was thinking about me.
Imagining brutally murdering the boy five years older then both me and the girl from the next congregation with a pick-ax, when he gets up to go walk around the hall with the girl from the next congregation.
Watching old man in front of me pick his nose and then eat the evidence. (February 1985, IIRC)
Wondering why the Drama director had the Israelite soldiers armed with cheap Japanese katanas, when they wouldn't be invented for another 2000 years or so.
Playing back episodes of Dr. Who in my mind.
When older.. just walk out with the then-wife and get some air.
When slightly older then that.. walk the baby out in the halls, somtimes. Not nearly as often as I should have.
Feeling slightly guily about all of the above, wondering if Jehovah would kill me for it.

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Bush: I'm God's Delivery Boy

by William Penwell in

published on wednesday, march 17, 2004 by the progressive

bush: i'm god's delivery boy

by matthew rothschild

gitasatsangha

ThiChi,

The difference is that people no longer flock to America for freedom. If they do, it was not the first thing on their list. (People go to Canada, Belize, and other places for that sort of thing). People who still immigrate to america usually do so because they are poor and they can make more money then they would at home. but you're a reactionary rightwinger, traded Jehovahs-Witnesses for the GOP, so you you'll believe what you want to believe.

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Bush: I'm God's Delivery Boy

by William Penwell in

published on wednesday, march 17, 2004 by the progressive

bush: i'm god's delivery boy

by matthew rothschild

gitasatsangha

How quaint to see Jingoism returning to America again. Maybe we can annex Mexico again (Bush intends to do so by osmosis), and destroy all the indian casino's that are massacre'in good white people's money outta there pockets.

By Jingo, Bush is the man fer me. We're not gonna tolurate these Grecians, Basilisks, and A-rabs, and what not. We can't have no godless president who aint afriad to kill thousands of people on a whim (Cept the Chinese.. it's ok if they chop up our planes and all, cause after Bush is finished, the chinese will be makin 'em anyway.) Yep Bush is a patriot all right, and so is God. Thank God he gave us this wonderful land to turn into an empire by killing off the redskins and giving meaningful work to all them ferriners and slaves and what not. We need to get back to those days, cause we don't have no more morality, anymore.

Remember folks, a vote for peace is a vote for treason, and it's ungodly I tell ya. If you don't want peace your an unchristian agnostic traitor. Vote for Bush. god would!

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Why JW's Stand Out

by new light in

it just hit hit me why so many jw's stand out!

it's because so many work menial jobs!

you put a jw in an office setting where everyone has to be well-groomed and he/she will blend right in (mostly).

gitasatsangha

"I don't have a beard or anything, but I've missed four meetings in a row."

There is no questoin but that this is the funniest thing I have read on here, ever. I want that statement engraved on marble, spray painted on Kingdom Hall doors, emailed repeatedly to the Watchtower. It should be screamed from the rooftops of every English speaking city (and Miami). This man was making his one last grasp at resistance for dignity and self purpose. It's beautifully pathetic. glorious and yet sad at the same time, like watching salmon make their death march up streams to spawn and pass away. I want to meet this man.

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What One JW Belief Could You Never Totally Accept???

by minimus in

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for me it was that god will destroy billions of innocent children simply because their parents weren't jehovah's witnesses.....and you??

?

gitasatsangha

I always believed that more people then JW's would make it though Armageddon, but by the time I was an adult, I was at odds with the Watchtower's refusal to accept evolution as a valid theory. Long before I stopped going out in servive, I would never offer a watchtower/awake combo that dealt with evolution, nor the stupid blue evo book.