remember there was a talk about not listening to "false stories" about sexual abuse from apostates on jw's fantasy station?
did the governing body put it out there as preemptive damage control because they knew this was coming?
they must have had subpoenas giving them a heads up.
Of course they knew about it. That was the only reason AM3 spoke in the broadcast of this month about child abuse.
I am sure though they didn't expect it to go viral around the world with every big media station reporting about it.
THE GREAT TRIBULATION STARTED; but only for this organisation.
it has been a long looong time since i posted on here, but never ceased reading all the posts and keeping up on the changes that have been going on!
but it just seems that now i have a need to get something off my chest, and this is the one place that will most definitely understand the topic at hand.
i have been disfellowshipped for about 8yrs now, and have dealt with the 'consequences' of that decision: all my so-called friends in the org left and i was also abandoned by my own family.
You are very courageous.
Maybe try to think of your parents as victims of this indoctrination. Maybe this would help not to be angry.
so a friend in a nearby hall told me their co came through, and in a hellish week of long meetings and inquisition overhauled the boe.
only one remains as elder, three were re-appointed as ms, and one, the cobe was deleted entirely.. two new elders were brought in as new secretary and cobe / watchtower conductor, respectively, and introduced to the congregation from the platform on sunday immediately following his second talk.
he reminded everybody of the authority he has and then named the new appointees.
When I stepped back as an elder (reason doubts) the Cobe first wanted that I continue serving as a MS.
I told him that my doubts are too strong. After debating, the boe accepted my stepping back.
I think the question is not if it is in US branch or not. The rules are the same for all branches.
If the co thinks that those elders are better in their positions as ms, he can suggest that to the branch, or maybe just decide it for himself
just wanted to say hello since i am new to this forum.
allow myself to introduce myself.
lol.
Hi Ricky
I feel for you and hope you manage to have a good family if you and your wife are both tolerant concerning religion.
Concerning your kids I encourage you to read the book "Raising freethinkers - A practical guide for parenting beyond belief."
This book especially chapter 3 contains excellent advice how to help your kids become freethinkers and how to counteract on religious indoctrination.
I wish you all the best.
it had been raining and i could smell the pine trees nearby.
god wasn't necessary.
the clouds cleared and the sunlight blazing from above paid out a bonus in the puddles at my feet.
Yes... you could be wrong...
Maybe god is all around us, within us and in nature itself.
But I am glad that you feel happy.
the new testament specialist daniel wallace notes that although there are about 300,000 individual variations of the text of the new testament, this number is very misleading.
most of the differences are completely inconsequential--spelling errors, inverted phrases and the like.
a side by side comparison between the two main text families (the majority text and the modern critical text) shows agreement a full 98% of the time.[18].
dear friends, your posts are very good, but we really think that they will change many things soon...for example.
watch tower now are feminist and they protect the gay cause.soon we will have many gay marriages in kingdom halls.you will see.that governing body is really cool.ted jaracz and john barr were the last puritans in the governing body!.
the current governing body is completely liberal, but as yet has some bethelites the old guard working, they are still holding some behaviors .... but very soon you will see ... even in my congregation is very liberal ... not here disassociates for immorality .. just for apostasy ... i fucked three sister, but the elders did not shunned me, but they only help me!
creationist museum acquires 5,000-year-old t. rex skeleton.
news january 15, 2003. vol 39 issue 01 science & technology science religion.
tulsa, okin a major coup for the growing field of creation science, the perfectly preserved remains of a 5,000-year-old tyrannosaurus rex were delivered monday to tulsa's creationist museum of natural history.. .
According to Gill, the skeleton, which stands nearly 20 feet tall, possesses terrifying, razor-sharp teeth and claws, confirming that it was an evil beast in league with Satan, the Great Deceiver.
HA HA HA
http://www.jwblood.org/teenage-jehovahs-witness-refuses-blood-transfusion-and-dies/.
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That's old news.
This case happened in the year 2010.
Of course it is very tragic and sad.
my family has been out (inactive no meeting attendance or field service) for just over two years..
weve made many changes in our lives, including with our personal appearances (tattoos, piercings etc) that are a pretty obvious sign that we arent going back any time soon.
our families went through a period of time about a year ago when they made a lot of threats that if we left the truth, they wouldnt even be able to share a meal with us, they would stay loyal to jehovah etc.
I think it is great that you have a somehow good relationship and that you were strict with your "package deal."
I think it is important, that the grandparents have a good relationship to their grandkids, even if it means that they hear from time to time jw propaganda.
If you for example forbid free speech in those relationships I think this would backfire.
Make sure that your kids learn to critically think for themselves. Teach them that many people believe in differemt things, different gods or no god at all, and that's all right. Show them that before truly believing something it is good to look at the facts from various sources.
Tell your kids that they are free to change their belief a thousand times and that you love them unconditionally no matter what they believe.
If they come with a jw or bible story like "Noah's ark" you could ask them. "What do you think about this story? Why did Jehovah bring the flood? (Because people were evil). Hmm... do you really think all people were evil? And what about the little children, babies or grandmas and grandpas? And all the animals? Did the cute little cats (or choose an animal you child likes) really deserve to die a horrible death? And by the way, how did they all fit into the ark? .......
Be prepared to discuss with your kids like that about different bible stories (maybe check the bible story book, there are many questionable stories that show how cruel Jehovah is).
Something similar could be discussed with the theme armageddon.
Some great ideas how to help your child think critically and becoming a freethinker, breaking indoctrination you find in the book "RAISING FREETHINKERS - A PRACTICAL GUIDE FOR PARENTING BEYOND BELIEF." This book is a real jewel.
You can be glad, that your kids are growing up with you, who left this cult. In my situation it is more difficult to counteract the indoctrination as my little son lives mainly with my uber dub jw exwife and I see him 2 or 3 days all 2 weeks. But even like this I think I am managing quite well to teach him critical thinking skills. He is 2 years and 8 months and he learns so much and understands most what I tell him. So he recently came and said the name jehova. He thought I would be happy to hear him say that. I didn't react negatively. But at another instance I explained him that mummy believes in jehovah and I don't believe that our heavenly father is jehovah. Some believe in Allah others in no god. And that's allright. We can believe different things. Even as young as he is he seemed to understand, and that it is more important that papa or mama are kind and loving to him.
Concerning praying. Before the meal (especially when my parents are there) I say. "Let's just have 30 seconds of silence. This is just a very personal moment for everyone to think of something nice and beautiful or for thode who wish to say a silent prayer.
I wish you a happy family life with your kids AND grandparents.
