Posts by Daniel1555

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Watchtower African Editions

by universitystudent in

that’s my first post here.

i came to this forum site in hope to find an archive of the watchtower magazine including all the african editions.

i’m currently a student in history and religious studies at the university of fribourg, switzerland.

Daniel1555

Hello and Welcome

I am living in Bern, very close from you :-)

Before I left, I attended the Bern English Congregation. I often saw the African editions.

For your project it might be good to contact the Branch office in Selters Germany.

I grew up as a JW and left because of conscience reasons and was disfellowshipped because of that.

If you need first hand information about JWs and JW life and also how to be able to exit, you can contact me. I'd be happy to help, especially as we are living so near.

Kind regards

Dani

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Judge sanctions WTS - $4k per day penalty for not producing sex abuse documents

by Simon in

judge sanctions jehovah's witnesses.

imposes $4000-a-day penalty for not producing documents in sex-abuse case.

by dorian hargrove, june 24, 2016. a san diego superior court judge has ordered the church of jehovah's witnesses, also known as the watchtower bible and tract society of pennsylvania, to pay $4000 a day for every day that it fails to produce documents requested in a civil lawsuit brought by former parishioner, osbaldo padron, who claims a church elder sexually abused him when he was seven years old.. in a june 23 ruling, expected to be made final today, judge richard strauss admonished the church for willfully ignoring a court order to produce all documents associated with a 1997 body of elders letter that church leaders sent to parishes around the world in a quest to learn about sexual abuse of children by church leaders.. over the course of the past year, the watchtower society and its lawyers have fought hard to keep the letter confidential, claiming that turning over the documents would infringe on the privacy of those mentioned in the letter that were not associated with the case.. in march 2015, the church turned over a heavily redacted version of the letter.

Daniel1555

A copy of that article should be sticked next to every kingdom hall contribution box.

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Need some help: Existential crisis in full swing

by Freeandclear in

jw
friends

so is anyone else having an existential crisis after becoming fully awake?

let me explain.

about 2 years ago i read coc, still believed and tried to get back in da troof.

Daniel1555

First of all congratulations that you managed your exit of this cult.

You are free now, free to embrace life and live a life with all its joys, pleasures, problems, doubts according to your conscience and without a set of manmade religious rules.

Now concerning spirituality or belief in god:

You don't need to jump to quick answers or solutions. And if you don't know something (if god exists or not) you might leave it open for the moment. It is also good not to know everything and leave it open and meanwhile use your energy for a good cause.

After leaving the JWs I lost my belief in organised religion, the bible and the god of the bible.

I can understand when someone sees himself as an atheist or agnostic.

However I still believe there is a higher force who is behind the natural laws of this universe (or many more) and I tend to believe this force or god is personal too.

Why do I believe that? My view of the world, life, love and a looking at near death experiences bring me to this conclusion.

I wish you all the best in your life.

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go fund me for help those who are shunned

by poopie in

jw
friends

what do you think?.

Daniel1555

How do you like to help them?

10

What is this I have heard about the new teachings at the RC

by dogon in

is there some new teachings i am hearing about, in the disfellow shipping area?.

Daniel1555

You can read in detail on the site jwsurvey.org

They show a shunning video at the RC and they have a shunning talk where they highlight that they should shun also 'faded' ones who transgress against their rules.

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I have a plan....

by DATA-DOG in

with all of the bat-shit crazy propaganda of late, i'm considering talking to my wife about the cult.

we have had zero religious discussions for two years.

the last discussion ended with ,"you have no beliefs, no personal beliefs, because you change your "beliefs" when the wtbts writes an article.

Daniel1555

Hey DD

Very good idea, that you'll text your daughter that you 'll never shun her. Tell her too, that you'll always be there for her, if she needs to talk, and won't let her go unanswered.

Maybe you can tell your wife the same. That you will always be there for your daughter, and that you find that video really shocking and that it offended and hurt you deeply. Mention that you would also never shun her (your wife).

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Our Letter to Our Family

by What Now? in

our families have cut off contact with us for the last several months.

they found out that we were celebrating holidays with our non-witness family.

our families were our last tie to the organization, as our former friends stopped associating with us about 3 years ago.

Daniel1555

Awesome letter!!

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The last video in the 2016 convention...

by problemaddict 2 in

...is an epic triumph is emotional manipulation.

bringing together all of the stories they told thus far and placing them int he "new world" complete with the little boy who was killed in a car accident coming back from the dead.. i have a good friend who is stuck in with family and plays the role.

he said everyone was crying, and the people next to him rated the videos by how many tissues they needed to dry their eyes.

Daniel1555

One good thing.

I discovered the music of "audiomachine."

I just loved the song. "Eternal flame" from the album "epica" of audiomachine.

They produced music for movie trailers and movies like Harry Potter, The Hobbit, the Hunger Games and many more.

Hmmmm Harry Potter ;-) isn't that the young wizard those "Muggle" Jehovahs Witnesses were advised not to watch.

I guess now all the JWs will think the organisation composed this great song.

I wanna see their faces when they see the picture of the album "epica."

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The last video in the 2016 convention...

by problemaddict 2 in

...is an epic triumph is emotional manipulation.

bringing together all of the stories they told thus far and placing them int he "new world" complete with the little boy who was killed in a car accident coming back from the dead.. i have a good friend who is stuck in with family and plays the role.

he said everyone was crying, and the people next to him rated the videos by how many tissues they needed to dry their eyes.

Daniel1555

It's a propaganda video for this ideology of a paradise earth.

We all want to enjoy life without pollution in a beautiful countryside, with peace and together with the people we love.

We all have lost loved ones who died. Especially the death of a child is something terribly sad.

Now you see this all portrayed with the climax of the resurrected boy hugging his father.

This video is professionally made and could be a trailer for a hollywood movie. The film music is quite good and all together very emotional.

And that's the dangerous thing.

They know exactly how to influence the emotions of the viewers. And they do it professionally.

Be loyal to us, and you'll be like the people in the video.

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Help - I'm going to be conducting the watchtower study

by Saltheart Foamfollower in

it looks like i'm going to have to take the watchtower study for a while so i thought i'd seek help.. i wont be outing myself or stating anything too controversial, but so far i have come up with the following tactics : 1) ask questions which will get people thinking even if it is about something insignificant - developing a questioning mind is the key to discovering ttat as far as i am concerned.

2) highlight any extreme points so that some might realise they are extreme.

3) highlight any good points - helping others in need for example - just because it is the right thing to do.. if anyone has any general comments which could help, please post them here.

Daniel1555

Just say "I am sorry, but no, I won't take the WT study."

Be persistent. If they want an answer you can tell them that it is because of personal reasons.