what's up with jw parents taking their minor children to such desolate places?
like the english family that took their little kids to the jungles of ecuador, and the australians that took their little ones to norfolk island where hardly anyone lives, and they are the only children in a congregation of 11 publishers?
is this a new form of child abuse?
I don't get it.
Why do you talk about desolate places?
Norfolk Island is not a desolate place. It's a beautiful and interesting island and anything but child abuse to live there when there are about 2300 inhabitants.
The same with the rain forest in Equador.
Or is it better to live in a crime infested mega city? Is that child abuse too?
today's wt has the below scripture as it's theme.
friday of the rc has the same as it's theme.
the silver nwt is alone in using the word loyalty in this verse.
In the German revised NWT they use "loyale Liebe zu üben."
That even has a completely different meaning than the English revised NWT. In German it means to exercise loyal love. The english version "to cherish loyalty" not even has love in it.
Before it was in German "Güte zu lieben", which means to "love kindness", which also has a different meaning.
yes afew months ago a florida woman was shot in the back with a gun left under her seat by her toddler.
today a milwaukee woman was killed by the same thing.
australian 30 year anniversary of port aurthur massacre when most dangerous automatic weapons were banned.....no massacres since for 30 years.
It doesn't surprise me anymore. Stuff like this becomes normal in gun crazy US.
Pro gun people cry for their right to own a gun for protection and then get killed by toddlers. Just very tragic.
And WingCommander. This isn't US, Swiss... against the rest of the world. I am Swiss and Swiss / US gun laws have nothing in common. Just because you can keep the swiss army rifle at home (without amunition) doesn't make it an arms pro country. Most of the people in Switzerland don't own a gun and those that do, use it for sports or hunting and not to have the deluded idea for protection against criminals or terrorists which is a complete illusion.
just to say a big hello.
i have been reading this site for some time now and have been very unhappy with some of the things emanating from watchtower head quarters in new york.
the final straw for me is the upcoming watchtower study this weekend encouraging us to shun our own family members (our own mothers if need be) if they are disfellowshipped....a step too far for my liking.
just to say a big hello.
i have been reading this site for some time now and have been very unhappy with some of the things emanating from watchtower head quarters in new york.
the final straw for me is the upcoming watchtower study this weekend encouraging us to shun our own family members (our own mothers if need be) if they are disfellowshipped....a step too far for my liking.
I think this link will work for you to see these letters.
http://www.quotes-watchtower.co.uk/blood_-_jensen_letters.html
just to say a big hello.
i have been reading this site for some time now and have been very unhappy with some of the things emanating from watchtower head quarters in new york.
the final straw for me is the upcoming watchtower study this weekend encouraging us to shun our own family members (our own mothers if need be) if they are disfellowshipped....a step too far for my liking.
Look at the Jensen letters.
Brother Jensen sent them several honest letters concerning the blood doctrine.
You can see how they responded over years. It's an eye opener. I think the link to these letters won't work. So you can search on google for them.
http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/105593/jensen-letters?page=1&size=20
http://www.quotes-watchtower.co.uk/blood_-_jensen_letters.html
I think this link will work
just to say a big hello.
i have been reading this site for some time now and have been very unhappy with some of the things emanating from watchtower head quarters in new york.
the final straw for me is the upcoming watchtower study this weekend encouraging us to shun our own family members (our own mothers if need be) if they are disfellowshipped....a step too far for my liking.
Welcome
I sent several letters to Bethel.
The innocent ones they might answer you.
When criticizing them or suggesting reform they either don't answer or tell the CO to answer you directly or through the elders.
Then you are on their radar as someone who has doubts. They will try to readjust you. If that doesn't work over a period of time they leave you alone if you are lucky or they disfellowship you for apostasy (thats what they did in my case).
yes that's me, i am victorious!
i had enough after about 4 years knowing ttatt.
sent my da letter and it has been anounced at the meeting.
Hey Powermetal
Congrats... how wonderful...
So good to be free, able to live according to your conscience, without man made rules of an earthly organisation.
In which country are you?
I am from Switzerland.
the following is a paragraph from the new february study watchtower article "learn from jehovah's loyal servants.".
7 a conflict of loyalties may arise when a close relative is disfellowshipped.
for example, a sister named anne [1] received a telephone call from her disfellowshipped mother.
So this weekend will be the WT study of this hateful article, stating plainly that adult children should shun their disfellowshipped parents, even if they are feeling lonely and depressed.
I am wondering what comments will be made. So this weekend I'll make an exception, listen in by phone and record this sick paragraph.
Also wondering what my parents will say about that paragraph, as they have regular and normal loving contact with me, their disfellowshipped son.
so for the first time ever i went to a church service at my local church (coe) and i have to say it was awful!
it was just like a ritual.
the vicar would say something and then the congregation would all say a phrase in unison back to him.
You could even be ...
... spiritual without being religious.
... believe in a higher power, god without any organised religion.
... pray and have a personal relationship to god without following any manmade rituals or set of rules.
... free to explore all kind of religions / churches until you find the one you feel good in (if you need organised religion).
But the best is, you are free to live a happy and satisfying life according to your conscience.
