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  Suggestion for JWFacts

  by ILoveTTATT in

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  i have a suggestion for jwfacts, and to help make the article easier to write for paul, the collective jwn community can help.. in his article of "religions similar to jehovah's witnesses",.

  http://www.jwfacts.com/watchtower/similar-religions-to-jehovahs-witnesses.php.

  paul uses mormons, cristadelphians, etc.... i suggest he also use iglesia ni cristo.

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  They even have their own "jwfacts"!!

  http://www.examineiglesianicristo.com
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  Suggestion for JWFacts

  by ILoveTTATT in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i have a suggestion for jwfacts, and to help make the article easier to write for paul, the collective jwn community can help.. in his article of "religions similar to jehovah's witnesses",.

  http://www.jwfacts.com/watchtower/similar-religions-to-jehovahs-witnesses.php.

  paul uses mormons, cristadelphians, etc.... i suggest he also use iglesia ni cristo.

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  July 27th's gonna be their 100th anniversary:
  
  Here's the requirements of them: (from http://www.dk777.com/incinanutshell.pdf)
  
  
  In the true church, there are not gazillions of requirements such as the false church of Manalo. How many
  requirements are there? Only two requirements! They are:
  1) Receive or accept Jesus Christ as your Savior, and
  2) Believe in Jesus Christ's name.
  That's it. After having the two requirements, you become a child of God. How about in the false church of
  Manalo? The following may not be exhaustive of Manalo's requirements:
  Preparatory Requirements:
  1) Must undergo a face to face indoctrination with the Iglesia ni Cristo minister, where you just sit down
  and listen while the minister reads to you the Bible using the indoctrination lessons, one session for each
  of the 26 gospel of Manalo lessons.
  2) Attend the committee prayer for indoctrinees.
  3) Attend the Thursday and Sunday worship services for six (6) months or 26 worship services.
  4) To get attendance slips as proofs of not missing any worship service.
  5) Pass screening tests to be sure that you understood all the 26 doctrines.
  6) Must be baptized only after reciting an oath to fulfill all Iglesia ni Cristo obligations until the new
  convert's death.
  7) Fills up R201 form which is a detailed personal information such as name, date of birth, address,
  telephone numbers of home and at work, social security number, education data, employment data,
  family data, spouse data, religions of family members, offices held in the church, if any, name of minister
  who did the indoctrination. A passport photo is required to be affixed on the form.
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  8) Assignment to be under the tutelage of a deacon, if male, or under a deaconess, if female, of the
  nearest area group where the new member lives.
  Membership Requirements:
  9) Attend without failure the Thursday and Sunday worship services;
  10) Attend without failure the weekly committee prayer meetings;
  11) Attend the following organization meetings of:
  a. Binhi
  b. Kadiwa
  c. Buklod
  d. Light of salvation
  e. Edification
  f. Deacons and deaconess
  g. Choir (junior and senior)
  h. Records
  i. Finance
  j. Maintenance
  k. caucus
  12) Invite visitors to the weekly bible exposition or accompany indoctrinees in all phases of indoctrination
  and to monthly grand evangelical missions;
  13) Attend nightly propagation works;
  14) Do office works gratis (reports needed by central administration on activities of the above
  organizations mostly pertaining to propagation).
  15) Attend almost nightly devotional prayers.
  16) Attend extra curricular activities (visitations, looking for missing brethren, chapel cleaning, etc)
  17) Attend church celebrations and church sports fests.
  CORE REQUIREMENTS:
  18) Fruit bearing of souls and converts;
  19) Fruit bearing of thanksgiving monies (Jul & Dec);
  20) Fruit bearing works of helping the church administration in all facets of its local operations as the
  minister requires;
  21) Fruit bearing of all kinds of offerings;
  22) Accept Felix Y. Manalo as God's messenger of God in these last days;
  23) Obedience to the Executive Minister (EGM) and locally assigned ministers;
  24) Obedience to all the rest of the 26 doctrines;
  PROHIBITIONS:
  25) Not to be absent from the worship service. Note: This is one of top three most evil deeds;
  26) Not to be late in coming to the worship service. Doors are locked at appointed time;
  27) Not to sleep, talk, or eat in the worship service;
  28) Not to draw back, withdraw, or falter, or exchange Church of Christ membership with anything else in
  this world. Note: This is one of top three most evil deeds committed by a member.
  29) Not to deduct contributions to the church in your tax returns;
  30) Not to get any receipts for any monies given to the church;
  31) Not to eat meat with blood or the so-called "dinuguan."
  32) Not to be engage with or marry anyone who is not a member of the church;
  33) Not to go to other churches;
  34) Not to draw back, withdraw, or resign from any office appointed to or placed in the church;
  35) Not to draw back (decrease) from thanksgivings year after year; Note: this is one of three most evil
  deeds);
  36) Not to disobey or question the church administration or its rules and disciplines. Note: This is one of
  most evil deeds);
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  37) Not to be lazy in earning a living so there is no hindrance in giving of offerings;
  38) Not to cause brethren to stumble or get cold;
  39) Not to celebrate All Souls Day, Christmas Day, Independence Day, and other days of pleasure;
  40) Not to go to dance parties;
  41) Not to join any labor unions;
  42) Not to drink alcoholic beverages;
  43) Not to take illicit drugs;
  44) Not to look lustily on any woman. There is one exempted from this.
  45) Not to wear casual clothes in the worship services;
  46) Not to be a neighbor gossiper;
  47) Not to file any complaints or action against any brother in any courts of law for any case civil and
  criminal;
  48) Not to complain about anything done in the Church of Christ;
  49) Not to use computers to track any financial matters or records of the congregation;
  MUST DO:
  50) Become an officer or official of the Church;
  51) Annual swearing to defend the Iglesia ni Cristo against all enemies;
  52) Turn your nametag before entering to worship;
  53) Secure attendance slips if attending in chapels you are not registered with;
  54) Provide reasons to your deacon/deaconess for non attendance of any worship service;
  55) Attend all church activities and gatherings;
  56) Renew life of sin;
  57) Love the brotherhood by watching family members or any brethren so they will not be absent from
  the worship service;
  58) Deposit monies weekly for your thanksgivings at the teller windows in the chapel building;
  59) Contribute weekly to the local, district, magazines, EGM, and others, presently required in the church;
  60) Drop your offerings to the pouches of deacons/deaconesses every worship service;
  61) Do all the things taken up or taught by the minister in the worship service;
  62) Obey the church administration both local and central from the Philippines;
  63) Forgive brethren who have debts;
  64) Have a job or means of livelihood on the condition that it will not interfere from attending the worship
  service;
  65) Pray for self asking forgiveness of your sins and pray always for the church administration so they will
  be guided by God;
  66) Have a formal dress or attire when attending worship service;
  67) Pay attention to the worship sermon and answer any questions posed by ministers;
  68) Vote completely for all slates of candidates given on election time;
  69) Bring foods, snacks, and articles needed for the weekly bible expositions;
  70) Bring paper towels, toilet tissues, cups, paper plates, spoons, forks, spring waters, soaps, coffee, tea,
  sugar, dry milk, etc.;
  71) Reconcile with brethren you have disputes with;
  72) Make sure the chapel is clean and tidy, and presentable; Hide envelopes for offerings;
  73) Do all the duties and responsibilities for the position you are placed into;
  74) If working to count monies, pay any shortages. All overages of cash found are owned by the church.
  75) Pay for your Pasugo and God's Message magazines on time.
  LOCAL CONGREGATION DUTIES:
  76) Weekly reporting to the church administration in the Philippines.
  77) Send paperwork’s of status of bible exposition and grand evangelical missions conducted: Number of
  visitors, members participating, member's fruit status, others;
  78) Send paperwork’s of status of worships: number of attendees, visitors, absences, reasons for their
  absences;
  79) Send paperwork’s of monies collected: Amounts received for all of the many kinds of offerings, lists of
  givers, mail with the report the remittance check for the week's collection;
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  80) Send reports for the status of activities of the different organizations and their propagation work
  results;
  81) Send reports of inventories (quarterly and annually):
  A) People inventory report - Census of all brethren registered in the local, their status whether active,
  inactive, missing, if officers, provide their positions. Each name must have address, phone numbers, and
  area group they belong to;
  B) Property inventory report - Tabulation of all properties of the Church and their values from buildings,
  autos, equipments, furnitures and fixtures, entrusted to the congregation.
  82) Delist any brethren and remove from all listings and records in the Church anyone who dies of any
  cause;
  83) Do all the others as the Church administration may require;
  MINISTER'S DUTIES:
  84) Acts as locale administrator. Heads and supervises the officers and the congregation;
  85) Officiates the worship services;
  86) Indoctrinates bible students;
  87) Baptizes new converts;
  88) Spiritual adviser of all members;
  89) Makes sure that all regulations of the Church of Christ and instructions of the Executive Minister are
  enforced and obeyed.
  90) Makes sure the thanksgiving deposits will not lag behind as compared to last year's deposits;
  As shown by the above, there are myriads of requisites and requirements in the false church of Felix Y.
  Manalo. The Iglesia ni Cristo is a church of works and deeds, not of God’s Grace.
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  Translating JWFacts to Spanish... Update?

  by ILoveTTATT in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  as you all may know, it is an ongoing project to translate jwfacts to spanish.

  given that there are more than 2 spanish-speaking jw's for every one that speaks english, it can be safely said that spanish is the #1 language in the jw world (even though everything is made originally in english).. the spanish-speaking jw's are harder to convince.

  i attribute it almost 100% to socioeconomic factors.

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  Hi Fernando, out of the 1.2M publishers in the US, it is safe to say that AT LEAST 1 in 3 are Spanish speakers. Just that makes 400K. Mexico = 600K, we have 1M. Add all the countries in Latin America, remove Brazil, and we have at least 2M Spanish-speaking JW's.

  The English speakers are around 1M... I remember I did the numbers a while ago...
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  Translating JWFacts to Spanish... Update?

  by ILoveTTATT in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  as you all may know, it is an ongoing project to translate jwfacts to spanish.

  given that there are more than 2 spanish-speaking jw's for every one that speaks english, it can be safely said that spanish is the #1 language in the jw world (even though everything is made originally in english).. the spanish-speaking jw's are harder to convince.

  i attribute it almost 100% to socioeconomic factors.

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  Zoos... please send him/her to our page:

  https://www.facebook.com/ExTestigosDeJehovaMundialMente?ref_type=bookmark
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  Translating JWFacts to Spanish... Update?

  by ILoveTTATT in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  as you all may know, it is an ongoing project to translate jwfacts to spanish.

  given that there are more than 2 spanish-speaking jw's for every one that speaks english, it can be safely said that spanish is the #1 language in the jw world (even though everything is made originally in english).. the spanish-speaking jw's are harder to convince.

  i attribute it almost 100% to socioeconomic factors.

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  Hi everyone... I have left off this project because I am in charge of a large FB page of exJW's... but recently I ran into a situation where I desperately needed to have JWFacts' article on War translated...

  I feel like I successfully helped someone to come to their senses... to see TTATT.

  So I realized the urgent need to finish this project...

  So... please... everyone... where are we with this???
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  IC 2014 talk: "A Century of Kingdom Rule Contrasted With a Century of Satan’s Rule"

  by AnnOMaly in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  a discussion of this talk on friday morning deserves its own thread.

  as i said elsewhere, it was a remarkable one.

  the speaker was manfred vencebi (google him - he's a bethel bigwig) and some of his remarks are real gems.

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  marked.
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  1914 vs 2014

  by ILoveTTATT in

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  it's amazing to examine the watchtower of 1914 now in 2014... 100 years later.. .

  here are some of my comments on the watchtower of 1914:.

  second article in january 1st.

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  It's interesting that this person who made the question had at least a conscience. Is it RIGHT to be circulating things which MAY NOT BE TRUE and portraying them as TRUTH?

  I guess that when we start to fade, if we REALLY have a conscience, we start to ask ourselves that... I, for one, couldn't at all... I couldn't get myself to spread lies...
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  Kate Wild

  by quellycatface in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i've been given permission to post news of our friend.. kate hasn't been very well.

  not well at all.

  i think much of it has been a delayed reaction to her df'ing, the general fallout when leaving the wtbs and family issues.. i just wanted to give you guys the heads up and give you a chance to show how much we care about her.. thanks for listening..

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  Hi Kate!! Hope you feel better!! =)
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  MINISTERIAL TRAINING SCHOOL, full course leaked!

  by hildebrando in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  all classes, all questions, all anwers, all 9 subject!

  all leaked for do in spanish!.

  http://www.hildeydesa.blogspot.com/2014/06/escuela-de-entrenamiento-ministerial.html.

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  Forget English!! How do I first download it in Spanish!?!?! I can't even have the PDF in Spanish, much less try to translate it for the benefit of others...
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  1914 vs 2014

  by ILoveTTATT in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  it's amazing to examine the watchtower of 1914 now in 2014... 100 years later.. .

  here are some of my comments on the watchtower of 1914:.

  second article in january 1st.

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  Bttt