No I'm not saying they would commit suicide.
I'm saying they would FAKE their deaths.
with all this building in a secluded area.... .
is it possible that the gb could be planning their rapture?.
hear me out.
No I'm not saying they would commit suicide.
I'm saying they would FAKE their deaths.
with all this building in a secluded area.... .
is it possible that the gb could be planning their rapture?.
hear me out.
With all this building in a secluded area...
Is it possible that the GB could be planning their RAPTURE?
Hear me out. They have long taught that "in a twinkling of an eye" the GB would disappear.
This would "signal" the start of the great tribulation.
So their vanishing act would be perceived by the rank and file as this is "REALLY" the end.
However, instead of a disappering into heaven to be with Christ...
could they be caught away to the Cayman Islands under different identities... with millions????
i continue to puzzle over the future direction the watchtower is taking.
it seems very strange.. let's review: they are selling everything off in brooklyn, raking in huge sums from that real estate and building heavily in a fairly isolated part of upstate ny.. why?.
it may be classified as a country club (legally).
maybe the GB is planning their escape
when moses met jehovah, he was on a mountain.. .
"for i have not dwelt in an house since the days that i brought up israel.
" - i chronicles 17:5. .
adama & mp
Yeah, but is Jehovah a man? Did he eat with Abraham?
"When the food was ready, Abraham took some yogurt and milk and the roasted meat, and he served it to the men. As they ate, Abraham waited on them in the shade of the trees."
Why was Jehovah interested in gold & silver & food?
when moses met jehovah, he was on a mountain.. .
"for i have not dwelt in an house since the days that i brought up israel.
" - i chronicles 17:5. .
When Moses met Jehovah, he was on a mountain.
"For I have not dwelt in an house since the days that I brought up Israel." - I Chronicles 17:5
"Whereas I have not dwelt in any house since the time that I brought up the Children of Israel out of Egypt, unto this day but have walked in a tent and in a tabernacle." - II Samuel 7:5
"As my glorious presence passes by, I will hide you in the crevice of the rock and cover you with my hand until I have passed by. Then I will remove my hand and let you see me from behind. But my face will not be seen." - Exodus 33:22,23
Was God a man who would kill people if they looked him right in the eyes?
Here are some other Bible quotes:
"I come to thee in a thick cloud that the people may hear when I speak to thee."
"Ye shall be unto me a kingdom of priests."
"Take heed, go not up the mount (Sinai), whosoever toucheth the mount shall surely be put to death."
"Set bounds upon the mount and sanctify it."
"And thou shall come up, thou and Aaron, but let not the priests nor the people."
Is Jehovah a man that was very territorial about his mountain?
"The first fruits of the land, thou shalt bring into the house of the Lord." (Why does God want food?)
"The rich, shall not give more, now the; poor less than a half a shekel." (Why is God concerned with money?)
"But every women shall borrow of her neighbor jewels of silver and of gold and raiment, and put them on your sons and daughters, and ye shall spoil Egyptians."
"Sanctify the first born, both of man and beast; it is mine."
"Thou shall not not revile the gods"
"Moses alone shall come near the Lord."
"Come up to me into the mount and I will give thee tablets: of stone"
"Thou canst not see my face, for there shall no man-see me and live."
"Thou shall see my back parts, but my face shall not be seen."
"Neither let the flock s or herds feed before the mount."
"An offering to the Lord gold; silver, and brass." (Why does Almighty God want gold, silver & brass?)
"And he set bread in upon it before the Lord." (Why does Almighty God want food?)
Compare these scriptures: Genesis 18
The LORD appeared again to Abraham near the oak grove belonging to Mamre. One day Abraham was sitting at the entrance to his tent during the hottest part of the day. He looked up and noticed three men standing nearby. When he saw them, he ran to meet them and welcomed them, bowing low to the ground. "My lord," he said, "if it pleases you, stop here for a while. And since you've honored your servant with this visit, let me prepare some food to refresh you before you continue on your journey." "All right," they said. "Do as you have said." So Abraham ran back to the tent and said to Sarah, "Hurry! Get three large measures of your best flour, knead it into dough, and bake some BREAD."
THERES THAT BREAD AGAIN!!!!
So the LORD appears & he was 1 of 3 men????
It continues in verse 8
When the food was ready, Abraham took some yogurt and milk and the roasted meat, and he served it to the men. As they ate, Abraham waited on them in the shade of the trees.
So the LORD ate??????
What the heck is going on here?
if one of the meanings of the name lucifer, is morning star, can someone please explain to me the last line in revelation 22:16?.
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@ hamster bait
Proverbs was written by Solomon & he did have conversations (or more) with the Queen of Sheba. In additon he had many wives that were not worshippers of YHWH. It's possible that he could have received this knowledge form them.
Or, God could have given Solomon wisdom, he shared this wisdom with these foreign women, & they took it back to their kingdoms, and backdated the artifacts. Who would know?
years ago you read my horror stories about being raped by a jw.
i was nine years old when this took place, now the man has been getting all his works in order.
what do i do to stop the seventy-year old pedophile from getting his position back?
Rest assured that if he molests again...
and if its wrong to molest...
and if Jehovah's feelings are hurt...
and there are 2 witnesses to verify the molestation...
and if the congregation knows about it...
and if it is a repeated offence...
The elders will go to a public pay phone and anonomyously give a report...
if it's required by law...
and only after calling the Watchtower's lawyers...
and only if... and only if... and only if...
have any of you been on this tour before ... specifically the met tour?.
some of my family went on this trip recently and everyone i know that has gone on it before has been "blown away" by the special witness tour of the met, specicfically the "woman and the seed" tour.
anyone have any details?
steve 2, you're speculations are debunked. I will say tho, that the Bethelite who conducts the tour has a Watchtower ouline that he's reading from to the group. As someone who paid for the tour, it was pretty much a manipulated talk outline, designed to show how close history matches the GB's teachings. In reality it is just a cherry picking, look here don't look there, tour with scriptures that the Bethlite quotes from the outline. Remember how God put eternity into the minds of men? See the Egyptians tried to be immortal thru mummification. Remember how the Isrealites mixed true worship with false gods? Look at this Artifact mentioning Jehovah's name over this sex act. Overall, interesting... but manipulated.
have any of you been on this tour before ... specifically the met tour?.
some of my family went on this trip recently and everyone i know that has gone on it before has been "blown away" by the special witness tour of the met, specicfically the "woman and the seed" tour.
anyone have any details?
I've been on the tour of both parts of the Woman & the Seed.
The tour shows you all the mummies & "false" gods.
The bethelite starts off with Egypt and talks alot about how the Egyptians believed in the immortality of the soul.
Then they goto Babylon and Nebuchadnezzar.
Then the tour ends EXACTLY at Jerusalem's destruction. Why? Because there's nothing to support their fake 607 BCE date!!!!
The whole purpose of the tour is to trick you into thinking the Watchtower's interprettion of the Bible is soooooo correct.
Then the Bethelite says: "This concludes Part 1 of the tour. Please schedule again to see Part 2." (Part 2 starts off with Alexander the Great of the Greek Empire, TOTALY BY-PASSING anything to do with the real 587 BCE date.)
Then the JW huddle around the Bethelite and thank him & praise him & give him more money.
I'm not kidding. If you ever get to go on this tour, do what I did when you get toward the end of. ASK: "Where is the 607 BCE date? We just spent all this time & money verifying these Bible facts against archeologoy right? Where is the 607 BCE date?"
The Bethelite quickly got us into the elevator & before we hit the lobby, simply turned the question over to the group. "Hey, anybody know when Jerusalem was destroyed?" The group of JW's answered in one voice 607 BCE!!!
I felt trapped in an elevator with a bunch of brain sucking zombies.
hey guys.
there is a new youtube comedy / drama film for jw's.. feedback?
thoughts?.
Hey Guys. There is a new Youtube Comedy / Drama Film for JW's.
Feedback? Thoughts?