Posts by Chappi

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Which Bible Translation is Currently the MOST Accurate in Your Opinion?

by Frannie Banannie in

i really wanna know.

i need the most accurate version to refer to in order to continue a project i'm working on.

frannie b

Chappi

Young's Literal Translation is (some of) the best a man get :)

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What do the soul do after death? Problems with puctuation.

by krzysiek in

39one of the criminals who hung there hurled insults at him: "aren't you the christ?

save yourself and us!

40but the other criminal rebuked him.

Chappi

AnnOMaly,

Acts 20:26 Wherefore I take you to record this day, that I am pure from the blood of all men.

Simply we are dealing with a common way of expression.

God Bless

www.godstruthfortoday.org

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Satan Had it easy! Does the bible make sense?

by Mecurious? in

my response to the thread above on do you still believe got me to thinking.

satan had it easy.

in genesis he was allowed to corrupt adam and eve and bring death to the whole human family.

Do we really need to go that far? Adam and Eve did not know good and evil in its most simple form. The angels did though. It's generally believed that Satan had already sinned at this stage and other angels with him. Of cause the time before the earth is an enigma in the Bible, we are told almost nothing. The angels surely knew good and evil in its simple form too and more so. In 2 Sam. 14v17 we are told that God's angels are wise, not that they know all things.

God Bless

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Satan Had it easy! Does the bible make sense?

by Mecurious? in

my response to the thread above on do you still believe got me to thinking.

satan had it easy.

in genesis he was allowed to corrupt adam and eve and bring death to the whole human family.

Chappi

Rayzorblade,

God is not said to create anything perfect, but "very good". Secondly God created man with a free will ie. the possibility of sinning rather than a) a perfect creature or b) a robot.

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Satan Had it easy! Does the bible make sense?

by Mecurious? in

my response to the thread above on do you still believe got me to thinking.

satan had it easy.

in genesis he was allowed to corrupt adam and eve and bring death to the whole human family.

Chappi

Spunky,

The simple belief behind ministry/preaching is that God leads you to the called. This obviously require that God is behind your system .

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Satan Had it easy! Does the bible make sense?

by Mecurious? in

my response to the thread above on do you still believe got me to thinking.

satan had it easy.

in genesis he was allowed to corrupt adam and eve and bring death to the whole human family.

Chappi

Shera, doubtlessly this has to do with sex and lust. They lost their innocence, and now they were sexually aware.

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Satan Had it easy! Does the bible make sense?

by Mecurious? in

my response to the thread above on do you still believe got me to thinking.

satan had it easy.

in genesis he was allowed to corrupt adam and eve and bring death to the whole human family.

Chappi

Ballistic,

But they did. They did however not get knowledge of good and evil like the gods. The serpent basically told them they would be perfect, having divine wisdom and be immortal - 'you will surely not die'. Instead they died (spiritually) as God told them and they did not get that divine wisdom either. They invited a lot of terible things into the world, all due to their disobedience. Check the reference to 2 Sam. 14v17 and you will see the Jews understood this statement in similar manner;

2 Samuel 14:17 Then thy handmaid said, Let, I pray thee, the word of my lord the king be comfortable; for as an angel of God, so is my lord the king to discern good and bad: and Jehovah thy God be with thee.

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Where are you going when you die?

by Mystery in

a questions that has been on my mind for 20+ years that i have been away.. and more recently - a friend of my sons was killed.

he ask me "mom where are you going when you die?

" i am worried because if you die, i don't know where you are going.

Chappi

Mystery,

I don't know about you or what you have done. But you are always alive to God and whatever happens, you will live forever .

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Satan Had it easy! Does the bible make sense?

by Mecurious? in

my response to the thread above on do you still believe got me to thinking.

satan had it easy.

in genesis he was allowed to corrupt adam and eve and bring death to the whole human family.

Chappi

sorry the email is [email protected] Just in case

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Satan Had it easy! Does the bible make sense?

by Mecurious? in

my response to the thread above on do you still believe got me to thinking.

satan had it easy.

in genesis he was allowed to corrupt adam and eve and bring death to the whole human family.

Chappi

Hi Mecurious/Brian,

The idea of ETI unconcerned creator(s), who might be dead now or who doesn’t care about us, is probably the least "faith-requiring" faith. To believe in the Bible God requires a good deal more and so does to believe in the evolution. A lot of the standard argumentation for the Bible being true is really argumentation pro creation. I understand where you come from and Im familiar with your ideas. I think many doubting JWs or ex JWs do the mistake of equaling the Bible with the JW interpretation. They are often not familiar with any other interpretation except bits from their loudmouthed adversaries in the "born again/evangelistic" movement. That is a shame, because they never get the peace or exorcise the fear they need to give the Bible an honest chance before they let it go.

I’m a Christian universalist. That is, I believe that the Bible holds a true and harmonious message and I believe in the final reconciliation of all men and angels, whatever judgments and torments it may take for some.

I would like to briefly comment on the biblical matters you discuss. First of all, Adam and Eve. No, the serpent’s lie was not true. They did not become as God or gods (=angels, KJV rendering, see also 2 Sam. 14v17) to know good and evil. Even today man does not know good and evil like God, they lack divine wisdom. By the sin, they loose God’s protection and harmony with God, but they do not get the divine wisdom the serpent told them they would get.

As for the ransom, note the words in 1 Tim. 2v5; as a testimony to be verified in due time. The world is presently in the hands of the evil one, but this will not last. At some point in the future all things will be reconciled (1 Col. 1v20). There will be no more death or pain (Rev. 21v4), which means no hell torments and no annihilation, and death and the old man will alreadly be destroyed (Rev. 20v14-15). As all die in Adam, all will be made alive in Christ, all in respective time (1 Cor. 15v22-26). Some at Christ’s coming, some much later after, some after punishment and tribulation.

About Satan, who could have sympathy for him but I believe the Bible teaches that he too at some point will be brought back to harmony, doubtlessly after much punishment. It seems natural to me that a mighty spirit being gets other conditions than us. He is the great accuser, the architect of sin and a being on a whole other level than us. Sure God knew what he would do, but God wished the whole creation to learn from it. He, as the responsible and Almigthy, subjected all the innocent to misery, but God gave them a hope too (Rom. 8v20), however hidden that hope is to most. Paul deals quit a lot with the issue of whether this is unfair of God. He concludes that God can do whatever God wants (Rom. 9v20) but also that God has decided to show mercy upon all (Rom. 11v30, see also Ps. 145v9). The Bible got little information about Satan, but I believe he was surely cast down from heaven before Jesus’ earthly ministry. Heaven however, is many things. Even if we suggest Satan was in heaven when Jesus was resurrected, I doubt that their mansions were close to eachother ;-).

Finally concerning Revelation and Satan’s release. I have great sympathy for the socalled Russellites, who are still around, I know many wonderful people in that crowd but I also believe they teach some fundamental errors. Russell rejected universal reconcilation but believed in universal restoration. He believed all would be restored to Adamic perfection due the thousand years. Not only does that require a distortion of the events in Rev. 20 (grand resssurection occurs after the 1.000 years, not before), but most of all it teaches salvation by works, something foreign to the Bible. The idea that people during 1.000 years make themselves worthy for salvation is totally foreign to the Bible, a sheer invention. Sinful man can not please God by his nature. The JWs still teach basically the same although they operate with a lot of people not being raised.

Well I hope you read this. Yours was surely interesting to read. You are wellcome to contact me at

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God Bless you