I think the point of the bible is that EVERYTHING came from SOMETHING - That something IS God.
And the Big Bang states that EVERYTHING came from EVERYTHING just re-arranged. The Bible states that God created everything out of nothing.
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Everything In The Universe Was Created By Absolutely Nothing.
by Philadelphia Ponos inthis is the purest example of an oxymoron.
repeat this sentence over and over again and you will realize why it's impossible for some people to accept the big bang model.
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Must Read Message I got on youtube....
by Tuesday inhey folks so i got this actual message to my youtube account i believe everyone would find really funny:.
tim,.
i had a visit today of some local jehovah's witnesses and one of them (i think his name was brandon west) said that he had met you in new york city.
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How were you paid...per each deconverted or per video?
I don't know, I'd say deconverting a JW from obstinant elitist that thinks they can answer every single one of my questions to apostate making their own videos is a hard task. I've only made 100 or so videos so I wouldn't say I should get paid for that. A little over a year ago someone had sent me a message saying that someone at an evangelical convention was selling bootlegs of my videos. Maybe that's what they're talking about, I don't know.
Isn't that weird though, I mean it's a big conspiracy theory victim mentality which of course is part of the BITE method of cult mind control.
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Must Read Message I got on youtube....
by Tuesday inhey folks so i got this actual message to my youtube account i believe everyone would find really funny:.
tim,.
i had a visit today of some local jehovah's witnesses and one of them (i think his name was brandon west) said that he had met you in new york city.
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Thanks Talesin, make sure to tell your friends to read through the comments. Most non-JWs don't necessarily take what I say on face value until they read the absolute venom that JWs spout on the videos.
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Everything In The Universe Was Created By Absolutely Nothing.
by Philadelphia Ponos inthis is the purest example of an oxymoron.
repeat this sentence over and over again and you will realize why it's impossible for some people to accept the big bang model.
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it declares that there IS a Mindbehind the universe, and it did not originate itself; it declares that this finite matter was not made from pre-existant matter but out of nothing and out of non-existence absolute and utter God brought into being through The Word.
Thanks ixthis, so Creationism teaches that EVERYTHING came from NOTHING and Big Bang states EVERYTHING came from EVERYTHING. Exactly as I said before.
I will make a small note that other books pre-date the bible that state there is a mind behind the universe.
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Must Read Message I got on youtube....
by Tuesday inhey folks so i got this actual message to my youtube account i believe everyone would find really funny:.
tim,.
i had a visit today of some local jehovah's witnesses and one of them (i think his name was brandon west) said that he had met you in new york city.
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Sure, I thought everyone here pretty much had heard of my youtube series.
The series is called "Tough Questions For Jehovah's Witnesses"
I suppose I'll link a bunch here's my three favorite videos I made that are outside of the Tough Questions Series:
http://youtu.be/Wx2R4zZjn5IThese would be my three favorite from the Tough Questions Series:
Last thing I'll link that alot of people like is the sub-set playlist in the Tough Questions series specifically dealing with whether or not JWs are a cult:
http://www.youtube.com/user/TimKilgore#grid/user/2C8C8A8535E2C8A1
If you're in the area Evidently you need to come to my wrestling show in West Warwick on Saturday! Every ticket I sell I'm giving $2 to Silent Lambs. Thus Far I'm not doing so well so I have a feeling I'll be dipping in to my own money to donate LOL.
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Must Read Message I got on youtube....
by Tuesday inhey folks so i got this actual message to my youtube account i believe everyone would find really funny:.
tim,.
i had a visit today of some local jehovah's witnesses and one of them (i think his name was brandon west) said that he had met you in new york city.
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Hey folks so I got this actual message to my youtube account I believe everyone would find really funny:
Tim,
I had a visit today of some local Jehovah's Witnesses and one of them (I think his name was Brandon West) said that he had met you in New York City. He claimed that you said you were hired to make videos against Jehovah's Witnesses. When I asked who hired you, he said he didn't know. This sounded wacky to me; is there any truth to it?
Thanks, RachelHow funny is that? Apparently my videos are so effective that JWs think I'm being paid to deconvert them. I wish I was man, deconverting JWs is tough and I think if I were paid by the deconversion now that I'm rounding out on 500 leaving due to my videos I would be better off financially. Maybe I could quit my full-time job.
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Everything In The Universe Was Created By Absolutely Nothing.
by Philadelphia Ponos inthis is the purest example of an oxymoron.
repeat this sentence over and over again and you will realize why it's impossible for some people to accept the big bang model.
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So really the big bang is a theory that everything that ever existed was always in existence just in a different form.
Most subscribers to the Big Bang Theory don't believe matter and energy exsisted eternally. With a statement like that I don't see how you can argue against the exsistance of God.
Please name a scientist that doesn't think the law of conservation of energy is incorrect.
You on the other hand say that God poofed everything into existence from thin air. Not even re-arranging materials but simply out of nothing God created everything.
No I don't believe that at all. The Bible states God formed man out of the ground. Obviously by using many different compounds found in the earth. I don't know if you were being sarcastic but I don't know anyone who believes God created anything from "thin air".
So where did he get those compounds from there Phil? How did God create the Earth? This is what's called a straw-man argument where you pick a small part of the argument in order to avoid the issue as a whole.
God created EVERYTHING from NOTHING.
Oh. You were eager to use this line so that's why you falsely stated that I believed God created everything from thin air. Meh. I'll give you an E for effort.
Again with a straw-man, I'd give you an F but the description of the grade wouldn't make it on the board. So do you feel like actually addressing what the Big Bang really states or would you much rather just speak in gross platitudes without the hint of actual knowledge in the subject. I don't mind talking to you my degree is in Evolutionary Biology.
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Everything In The Universe Was Created By Absolutely Nothing.
by Philadelphia Ponos inthis is the purest example of an oxymoron.
repeat this sentence over and over again and you will realize why it's impossible for some people to accept the big bang model.
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So you have no idea what the big bang theory states. You're forgetting the law of conservation of energy which states that matter cannot be created or destroyed and the theory of relativity which states that matter and energy can be interchangable. So really the big bang is a theory that everything that ever existed was always in existence just in a different form. At one point for some reason (who knows here it could be God) that material expanded and formed all the compounds we know of today.
So if you want to break it down to it's basest concept:
The Big Bang states that EVERYTHING came from EVERYTHING.
You on the other hand say that God poofed everything into existence from thin air. Not even re-arranging materials but simply out of nothing God created everything.
So if you want to break that down to it's basest concept:
God created EVERYTHING from NOTHING.
Sorry my friend but...
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How would you respond to this JW apologist??
by Black Man inhey all - as some of you may know, i've been engaged in a pretty big debate with family members as well as internet acquaintances over whether the jw's are a cult.
thanks to everyone who have posted links to threads that have helped me in my dialogue with them - its actually working.
the latest is that one of the posters i've been dialoging and he says that agrees with me on many points but he brought up the following response and i ask (how would you respond to this) that i have posted below (by the way, the person he references as gq is me - its my username on that web site):.
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My response would be simple really,
"Every time I go to a website regarding Scientology there are all sorts of success stories. People say that they were on psychotropic drugs and thanks to Dianetics they are off the drugs and functioning normal in society. John Travolta, Tom Cruise, the entire cast of My Name Is Earl are Scientologists and prosperous people, does that change the fact they're a cult?"
Chances are he's going to say no, therefore apply the same reasoning to his argument. People prosper in many different situations, people lose weight on the cabbage soup diet, that doesn't make it healthy.
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What are the attendances on the assemblies? If I'm using the Springfield Auditorium as an example since that's the one I went to there was a total of something like 5 k in attendance. In order for a flash mob to be effective you're going to need at least 200 people there, but in actuality for there not to be some major reprocussions (I have a feeling JWs would try to prosecute for disturbing the peace) there would need to be more like 1000. With that being the case I think in order to set up a flash mob I think the best thing to do would probably be to set up a conga line to "Hot Hot Hot" by Buster Poindexter and everyone just goes in a conga line right out the door. The more people the better, and the closer to the mid-afternoon break the better that way people can just leave. It would be even more hilarious if this was done during some sort of talk that was about something specific like the new understanding of generation or how people are leaving in droves off into the broad and spacious road that leads to destruction.