Posts by Zoos

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We Cleaned Out A Hoarding Pioneer's House and Discovered Boxes of Lies! What To Do?

by AuntConnie in

i was doing some mild cleaning for one of the local hoarding witness sisters; her house was going to be condemned so we all got together trying to get her house in order because she does not have any worldly family willing to speak to her.

some of the friends decided they would try to guilt her family, her family was very blunt when they said to tell their sister to tell the stealing bitch to go and f-yourself!.

i got in touch with one of her local family members and he was more peaceful and explained why all his family members hated her.

Zoos

Sorry AuntConnie, I got the impression the extent of her "behavior" was just being discovered upon entering her home. I understand that all the effort in the world cannot fix the underlying problem.

Although not a hoarder, we had a brother in the congregation where I grew up who probably should have been institutionalized but was ... somewhat functional. The brothers and sisters would take turns cleaning his home. He could make his meals, take a shower and get dressed but had no other concept of cleanliness, including a casual attitude toward using the toilet.

It was disgusting and a huge burden.

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Have any of you ex elders ever seeked out those you previously disfellowshipped?

by EndofMysteries in

i was curious if any of you who were part of judicial committees and disfellowshipped any ever after learning ttatt tried to look up those who were dfed and never returned, etc, or who are still dfed.

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if so, tell us how it went.

Zoos

"Hey Joe, I'm sorry I destroyed your family. Pals?"

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We Cleaned Out A Hoarding Pioneer's House and Discovered Boxes of Lies! What To Do?

by AuntConnie in

i was doing some mild cleaning for one of the local hoarding witness sisters; her house was going to be condemned so we all got together trying to get her house in order because she does not have any worldly family willing to speak to her.

some of the friends decided they would try to guilt her family, her family was very blunt when they said to tell their sister to tell the stealing bitch to go and f-yourself!.

i got in touch with one of her local family members and he was more peaceful and explained why all his family members hated her.

Zoos

All of sister Hoarders behavior aside, how did the representatives of "God's spirit directed" organization not know the conditions this woman was living in? No visits? No shepherding calls? If the woman was a special pioneer... even just a high-hour publisher, that would have the effect of putting her in the spotlight to some extent. How did all this go under the radar?

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Need article about looking to the slave rather than Christ for salvation

by Bonnie_Clyde in

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friends

i thought there was something recently.

clyde says he needs it soon to show a friend, and i don't know where to find it.

can i get it off jw.org ?

Zoos

marked

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New Awake magazine goes after the media

by cedars in

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here is a link to the pdf.... http://www.jw.org/download/?issue=201312&output=html&pub=g&fileformat=pdf&alllangs=0&langwritten=e&txtcmslang=e&isbible=0.

some interesting quotes.... while it is wise not to believe everything we read in the news, it does not follow that there is nothing we can trust.

the key may be to have a healthy skepticism, while keeping an open mind.tone: when the tone of a news item is angry, spiteful, or highly critical, it suggests that an attack is under way and not a reasoned argument.sources: is there evidence of thorough research?

Zoos

When the tone of a news item is angry, spiteful, or highly critical, it suggests that an attack is under way and not a reasoned argument.

Did this make anyone stop and reminisce about the Human Apostates talk from this year's DC?

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Do you have any "one-liners" for drive-by witnessing?

by Faithful Witness in

i am looking for things i can say in passing, when i meet some of my jw friends.

we used to attend meetings, but have not been officially recognized yet, as apostates.

we were good and curious students, but fell away and were choked out by weeds.. since i will be renewing my bible student status soon, i am hoping this will open more windows into the organization.

Zoos

marked

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At what age did you begin retirement planning

by Zoos in

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friends

i am 46. i just started a 401k three months ago.. .

not long ago, while i was still "in", the topic of 401s came up between me and a coworker.

he asked if i was plugged in and i said, "no.

Zoos

I am 46. I just started a 401K three months ago.

Not long ago, while I was still "in", the topic of 401s came up between me and a coworker. He asked if I was plugged in and I said, "No. My retirement is already secured. No need for a 401." That probably left him with the impression that I had a secret pile of money stashed away somewhere. Actually, I knew that Armageddon would be here soon. No need to deprive myself of any portion of my paycheck now.

That was then.

I have done some forecasting and I am fortunate that I do not carry too much debt. If I behave myself I can be debt free in less than five years (mortgage in about 13 years) and then begin pouring all that money into IRAs, etc. I am also fortunate that I have a reasonably good paying job so the current, day-today needs are not a struggle. Not bad for someone who was able to avoid the temptation of a demonic higher education.

Forecasting is one thing. Life's curve balls are quite another and I am feeling a bit nervous. This is something I should have been taught and encouraged to begin 25 years ago. Retirement is not something you can just throw together at the last minute. ESPECIALLY in this financial climate.

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The US Government actually deserves credit for the WT heading it's way down....

by EndofMysteries in

the government wanted the wt shut down as well.

they found out that the wt teaches all it's members not to get an education, not to get any good paying job, to spend all their time placeing magazines and being window washers.

so they said, we'll make the cost of insurance, infact require insurance by law, increase the cost of living on everything, then the wt members won't have any spare money to donate and the wt will just fade away due to lack of money.. so the wt after the economy and all cost of living going through the roof the past few years, plus some lawsuits, is suddenly cash starved.

Zoos

I think your tongue-in-cheek thread title would be more apt if applied to, say... restaurants. People will stop going out to eat long before they will quit donating money to the institutions that will save them at Armageddon.

You make a good point about their own doctrine coming around to bite them in the butt. Their own teachings promote the development of a lower/lower middle class income group - and that's during the working years. This group will be in even worse shape later for lack of retirement planning due to the hope that Armageddon is right around the corner.

Then they try to subside off the crumbs of that group.

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The Lawsuit Landslide: Irwin Zalkin representing ELEVEN child abuse victims against Watchtower

by cedars in

many of you will be interested to know that irwin zalkin now has 11 lawsuits against watchtower at various stages.. these can be summarized as follows.... j.l.

shocked by the lack of action, the victims mother immediately left the congregation with her son.

by this stage campos was a known predator with complaints having been made to the elders at linda vista spanish, playa pacifica spanish and the watchtower dating back to 1982.elizabeth mcfarland ohio a former ministerial servant named scott silvasy sexually molested elizabeth when she was a child through her early teens.

Zoos

Given some of the drivel that passes for news worthiness these days, it absolutely amazes me that these stories are not gaining some significant headlines, if any at all. Has the Catholic pedophile scandal burned us out on the topic so thoroughly that the VFW Ladies Auxiliary 12th annual bake sale tops the news lineup?

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Kirk Cameron Unstoppable tonight at theaters , live from Liberty University

by Violia in

http://unstoppablethemovie.com/.

it airs live at liberty university tonight at 8 pm est and will be shown in theaters tonight and in oct, one day.

i hope to see this at one of those times or perhaps it will be available on line after that.

Zoos

I think he's also a few picket signs shy of being the next Fred Phelps.

This guy is whacked!