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  How a Gay Jewish Boy from New England Came to Be and Leave the JWs (and what he did next)

  by CalebInFloroda in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  born in cambridge, ma to a liberal couple that escaped the conservative south, my parents raised me better than to become a jehovahs witness.

  funny thing was they got mixed up in it first.. while that is a story for another time, i myself had to go along as the third of five children in my family.

  dads job transferred him to texas and my mom worked fulltime herself, but eventually we found ourselves drinking the kool-aid of ambiguity intolerance and full-fledge belief that the bible was literal fact and that salvation was found only by those who were smart enough to enter the confines of the watchtower.. its weird how many people claim they fear children raised by two gay parents will grow up to be gay.

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  FUKITOL - Why do gay people have to put so much emphasis on their gayness for their identity as a human being? Do heterosexual people use the word 'heterosexual' as the first and foremost descriptor of themselves to others?

  Did you grow up terrified to be yourself as a result of your sexual orientation? Heteros are largely able to just be themselves given their own sexuality has never been an issue, question, or a point of ridicule, shame, abuse.

  When a young (or older) gay person finally finds his or her feet, YES, the establishment of one's gay identity is important, at least in the beginning. Standing up and saying, "This is who I am" is new and necessary for many adult gays and lesbians.

  If you've never lived it and have no capacity for empathy, you are invited to be seated... and silent.
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  How a Gay Jewish Boy from New England Came to Be and Leave the JWs (and what he did next)

  by CalebInFloroda in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  born in cambridge, ma to a liberal couple that escaped the conservative south, my parents raised me better than to become a jehovahs witness.

  funny thing was they got mixed up in it first.. while that is a story for another time, i myself had to go along as the third of five children in my family.

  dads job transferred him to texas and my mom worked fulltime herself, but eventually we found ourselves drinking the kool-aid of ambiguity intolerance and full-fledge belief that the bible was literal fact and that salvation was found only by those who were smart enough to enter the confines of the watchtower.. its weird how many people claim they fear children raised by two gay parents will grow up to be gay.

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  Zoos

  Another gay genius?

  Good lord, how many of us are there?

  Welcome! :)
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  Hi Everyone. Answer to prayer countdown...

  by Stumpy in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i've been lurking for about 3 months now and thought i'd better finally sign up.

  you have all been an immense help to me as i have come to realize that this isn't the truth so i want to say a great big thank you!

  what a crazy, emotional ride it is to finally face the truth about the doubts that i have carried for many years.

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  Welcome Stumpy.

  Have you read Ray Franz's books yet? For me, Crisis of Conscience helped put everything in order and settle my nerves. I was a basket case learning all the ways in which we had been dooped as JWs but that book was just the right medicine.

  His follow-up book, In Search of Christian Freedom went into more depth on various doctrinal issues where he dismantles Watchtower theology very effectively without being preachy about what you should believe. He respects your right to your journey in that respect.

  Another set of open eyes.

  Best wishes!
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  she passed faithful to the end to them!

  by jookbeard in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  just found out (second hand of course) and by someone on here that my faithful jw mum passed away within the last couple of days, dont know the exact day, and what cause, she spent the last few years living with my fanatical sister, she was 65 and survived my father by 10 years, bitter, angry and hateful till the end and never as so much enquired or asked how her 2 grandchildren ever were , they are 5 and 7!

  feeling a mixture of emotions right now, they were lousy parents in all honesty, she suffered health wise so maybe its for the best, dont even know when the funeral is!

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  I'm sorry to hear about this. It sucks having a parent that would exclude you to this extreme. What ever happened to "except for family emergencies" in the shunning game?

  I expect to learn of my own mother's passing from one of my periodic internet obituary searches for her name. They are foaming at the mouth in their determination to ostracize me from their lives.
  

  Heart goes out to you.
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  Worst Memorial Talk Ever!

  by The Searcher in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i honestly have never heard such claptrap being delivered in a memorial talk.. the speaker repeatedly put down the way other religions administered the bread & wine, and claimed that witnesses do it exactly as the bible describes.

  oh yeah????.

  he forgot to mention - when reading aloud 1 corinthians 11:25 - that after passing the bread, a full meal was to be shared, before the wine was passed around!

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  So obviously even among Jehovah's Witnesses there is ongoing confusion and commotion as to who should and should not partake so much so that WT has to remind the R & F to obey!

  Oh you poor little Watchtower leaders. THIS is not the result of confusion. Fewer and fewer take you seriously anymore! You are growing more irrelevant every day. You are background noise! Your blah blah blah has been weighed in the balance and you have failed to meet expectations.
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  I Should Have Just Kept Avoiding Their Videos

  by OnTheWayOut in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i have a 2011 new year resolution to avoid reading jw literature or watch their videos.i am not "religious" about it, and will watch/read excerpts, but pretty much stick with that resolution as it only angers me when i read the stuff.. well, someone posted their video of philippines disaster relief due to a 2013 typhoon as a response to a news article to demonstrate that they are not really helping and that it is just propaganda.

  i watched the video and was immediately able to see what the hell is wrong with jw's and their leadership and, as i figured- i was angered.. so i will post this link, but then go back to not watching/reading.

  it just isn't worth it.. in the video, when they knew the storm was coming, the pre-planned disaster relief people texted elders to warn them to evacuate.

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  OnTheWayOut9 hours agoZoos, thanks for that. Is that a quote I missed or just a thought of yours?

  In a recent thread (I cannot find) reporting on the missteps of WT lawyers I read where they were asked by the judge why they failed to file/obtain/pursue something ordered by the court.

  The lawyer's response was, "We could have but we didn't."

  I was just spoofing that comment.
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  I Should Have Just Kept Avoiding Their Videos

  by OnTheWayOut in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i have a 2011 new year resolution to avoid reading jw literature or watch their videos.i am not "religious" about it, and will watch/read excerpts, but pretty much stick with that resolution as it only angers me when i read the stuff.. well, someone posted their video of philippines disaster relief due to a 2013 typhoon as a response to a news article to demonstrate that they are not really helping and that it is just propaganda.

  i watched the video and was immediately able to see what the hell is wrong with jw's and their leadership and, as i figured- i was angered.. so i will post this link, but then go back to not watching/reading.

  it just isn't worth it.. in the video, when they knew the storm was coming, the pre-planned disaster relief people texted elders to warn them to evacuate.

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  Philippine Authority: "Why didn't you evacuate?"

  Philippine Elders: "We could have, but we didn't."
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  My 10 year old son almost Outed me as when someone showed him a Watchtower! "The Generation that won't die"

  by PokerPlayerPhil in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  i had a photo copy of the magazine "the generation that will never die!

  " sitting in my office, he saw it and being the voracious reader he is, he asked me "why did the magazine say all those people would never die?

  " i told him "humans make mistakes, they were wrong by claiming that.

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  Oh, what these kids absorb.

  Good job, Jr.!
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  All Gays Are Perverts

  by Coded Logic in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  "scientists may never resolve exactly how much of a role nature and nurturing play in same-sex attraction.

  but one thing is clear: all humans are born with the tendency to succumb to wrong thinking and inclinations.

  --romans 3:23. a youth who desires to please god must therefore conform to his moral standards and shun immoral behavior, though doing so may be agonizingly difficult.

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  Anyone else leave the Society in part due to their treatment of gay people?

  I left entirely because of the gay issue. All the other realizations came after my disassociation.

  You cannot lay down such a hard line anti-gay policy and it not effect the attitudes of the masses towards gays. THEY SAY that they accept gays at the Kingdom Hall, and to be fair I experienced that from a few that knew I was gay. But by far the attitude was stand-offish by those who knew me, and a willingness to verbally trash, condemn, mock, joke and make fun of gays by those who didn't know me - didn't realize they were talking about me to my face.

  The simplicity of "hate the sin, love the sinner" goes as far as the paper it is written on, for most. That rule falls apart when you have speakers from the platform ranting about how disgusting homos are, how obscene they are to look at in public, how demoralizing it is to be mistaken for one,... and the rants go on and on.

  Later, when you wake up and realize homosexuality is not the sin you had always been led to believe it was, then:
  

  
  
  
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  Federal prisoner, child of active JW, could be my grandchild?

  by FatFreek 2005 in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  i recently learned of the possibility that my son has a love child and that this child is in prison.

  the child was born in the early 80s.

  i learned that my ex-wife and her parents may have paid a large sum of money to the young mother (and others) in order to keep this scandal out of the press and perhaps out of earshot of the local elders.

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  What makes you think this person is THE person that could be your grandson?