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  It seems like the Mormons are falling short of their recruitment goals.

  by James Mixon in

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  maybe someone can post the article.

  by brady mccombs the associated press.

  friday april 24. .

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  Zoos

  Is this he one?

  http://www.sfgate.com/news/article/Mormon-leader-L-Tom-Perry-diagnosed-with-cancer-6221728.php

  Two Mormon leaders battling serious health issues

  Brady Mccombs, Associated Press

  
  

  Updated 11:01 am, Friday, April 24, 2015

  
  

  SALT LAKE CITY (AP) — Two of the Mormon church's aging leaders are battling serious health issues.

  L. Tom Perry, 92, the second-most senior member of the high-level Mormon governing body called the Quorum of the Twelve Apostles, has been diagnosed with cancer, church spokesman Eric Hawkins said Friday.

  Perry will begin radiation treatment Friday to treat cancer discovered in his thyroid gland, Hawkins said. Perry was hospitalized earlier this week with breathing difficulty, but allowed to go home after tests and observations.

  Richard G. Scott, 86, another member of the quorum, was hospitalized Thursday night with gastrointestinal bleeding, Hawkins said. Scott is resting now after the bleeding was brought under control.

  The quorum is a governing body of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints that is modeled after Jesus Christ's apostles and serves under the church president and his two counselors.

  Nine of the 15 members in the religion's core leadership group are at least 80 years old. President Thomas S. Monson is 87. Perry is the oldest of the group.

  Originally from Logan, Utah, Perry spent his professional career as a vice president and treasurer in retail business before being named to the quorum in 1974. He was one of four leaders to meet with President Barack Obama during his recent trip to Utah.

  He was also in attendance when Mormon leaders and state lawmakers introduced a landmark bill in March that bars discrimination against gay and transgender individuals while protecting the rights of religious groups and individuals.

  But while Perry was greeted warmly by LGBT advocates that day, he drew their rebuke in early April when he gave a speech about the church being a leading advocate for traditional families and speaking out against "counterfeit and alternative lifestyles."

  Scott was born in Pocatello, Idaho, and had a successful career as a nuclear engineer. He was named to the quorum in 1988.
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  Protect governing body with your life

  by Zoos in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  there was a quote in the literature some years back about protecting the governing body from secular authorities and insinuated that we should do whatever it took to insure their safety.. i seem to remember it was something about refusing to help the authorities locate the governing body.

  i may be off track here.

  if this is familiar to you could you please help me find the quote?.

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  Zoos

  I suppose I may have heard it from someone rather that read it.

  I appreciate all the feedback.

  CLARITY - I learned about the guards a few years ago on this forum. Thanks!
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  Protect governing body with your life

  by Zoos in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  there was a quote in the literature some years back about protecting the governing body from secular authorities and insinuated that we should do whatever it took to insure their safety.. i seem to remember it was something about refusing to help the authorities locate the governing body.

  i may be off track here.

  if this is familiar to you could you please help me find the quote?.

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  Zoos

  Nothing, huh?
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  Protect governing body with your life

  by Zoos in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  there was a quote in the literature some years back about protecting the governing body from secular authorities and insinuated that we should do whatever it took to insure their safety.. i seem to remember it was something about refusing to help the authorities locate the governing body.

  i may be off track here.

  if this is familiar to you could you please help me find the quote?.

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  Zoos

  There was a quote in the literature some years back about protecting the governing body from secular authorities and insinuated that we should do whatever it took to insure their safety.

  I seem to remember it was something about refusing to help the authorities locate the governing body. I may be off track here. If this is familiar to you could you please help me find the quote?
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  How a Gay Jewish Boy from New England Came to Be and Leave the JWs (and what he did next)

  by CalebInFloroda in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  born in cambridge, ma to a liberal couple that escaped the conservative south, my parents raised me better than to become a jehovahs witness.

  funny thing was they got mixed up in it first.. while that is a story for another time, i myself had to go along as the third of five children in my family.

  dads job transferred him to texas and my mom worked fulltime herself, but eventually we found ourselves drinking the kool-aid of ambiguity intolerance and full-fledge belief that the bible was literal fact and that salvation was found only by those who were smart enough to enter the confines of the watchtower.. its weird how many people claim they fear children raised by two gay parents will grow up to be gay.

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  FUKITOL - Why do gay people have to put so much emphasis on their gayness for their identity as a human being? Do heterosexual people use the word 'heterosexual' as the first and foremost descriptor of themselves to others?

  Did you grow up terrified to be yourself as a result of your sexual orientation? Heteros are largely able to just be themselves given their own sexuality has never been an issue, question, or a point of ridicule, shame, abuse.

  When a young (or older) gay person finally finds his or her feet, YES, the establishment of one's gay identity is important, at least in the beginning. Standing up and saying, "This is who I am" is new and necessary for many adult gays and lesbians.

  If you've never lived it and have no capacity for empathy, you are invited to be seated... and silent.
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  How a Gay Jewish Boy from New England Came to Be and Leave the JWs (and what he did next)

  by CalebInFloroda in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  born in cambridge, ma to a liberal couple that escaped the conservative south, my parents raised me better than to become a jehovahs witness.

  funny thing was they got mixed up in it first.. while that is a story for another time, i myself had to go along as the third of five children in my family.

  dads job transferred him to texas and my mom worked fulltime herself, but eventually we found ourselves drinking the kool-aid of ambiguity intolerance and full-fledge belief that the bible was literal fact and that salvation was found only by those who were smart enough to enter the confines of the watchtower.. its weird how many people claim they fear children raised by two gay parents will grow up to be gay.

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  Another gay genius?

  Good lord, how many of us are there?

  Welcome! :)
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  Hi Everyone. Answer to prayer countdown...

  by Stumpy in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i've been lurking for about 3 months now and thought i'd better finally sign up.

  you have all been an immense help to me as i have come to realize that this isn't the truth so i want to say a great big thank you!

  what a crazy, emotional ride it is to finally face the truth about the doubts that i have carried for many years.

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  Welcome Stumpy.

  Have you read Ray Franz's books yet? For me, Crisis of Conscience helped put everything in order and settle my nerves. I was a basket case learning all the ways in which we had been dooped as JWs but that book was just the right medicine.

  His follow-up book, In Search of Christian Freedom went into more depth on various doctrinal issues where he dismantles Watchtower theology very effectively without being preachy about what you should believe. He respects your right to your journey in that respect.

  Another set of open eyes.

  Best wishes!
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  she passed faithful to the end to them!

  by jookbeard in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  just found out (second hand of course) and by someone on here that my faithful jw mum passed away within the last couple of days, dont know the exact day, and what cause, she spent the last few years living with my fanatical sister, she was 65 and survived my father by 10 years, bitter, angry and hateful till the end and never as so much enquired or asked how her 2 grandchildren ever were , they are 5 and 7!

  feeling a mixture of emotions right now, they were lousy parents in all honesty, she suffered health wise so maybe its for the best, dont even know when the funeral is!

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  I'm sorry to hear about this. It sucks having a parent that would exclude you to this extreme. What ever happened to "except for family emergencies" in the shunning game?

  I expect to learn of my own mother's passing from one of my periodic internet obituary searches for her name. They are foaming at the mouth in their determination to ostracize me from their lives.
  

  Heart goes out to you.
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  Worst Memorial Talk Ever!

  by The Searcher in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i honestly have never heard such claptrap being delivered in a memorial talk.. the speaker repeatedly put down the way other religions administered the bread & wine, and claimed that witnesses do it exactly as the bible describes.

  oh yeah????.

  he forgot to mention - when reading aloud 1 corinthians 11:25 - that after passing the bread, a full meal was to be shared, before the wine was passed around!

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  So obviously even among Jehovah's Witnesses there is ongoing confusion and commotion as to who should and should not partake so much so that WT has to remind the R & F to obey!

  Oh you poor little Watchtower leaders. THIS is not the result of confusion. Fewer and fewer take you seriously anymore! You are growing more irrelevant every day. You are background noise! Your blah blah blah has been weighed in the balance and you have failed to meet expectations.
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  I Should Have Just Kept Avoiding Their Videos

  by OnTheWayOut in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i have a 2011 new year resolution to avoid reading jw literature or watch their videos.i am not "religious" about it, and will watch/read excerpts, but pretty much stick with that resolution as it only angers me when i read the stuff.. well, someone posted their video of philippines disaster relief due to a 2013 typhoon as a response to a news article to demonstrate that they are not really helping and that it is just propaganda.

  i watched the video and was immediately able to see what the hell is wrong with jw's and their leadership and, as i figured- i was angered.. so i will post this link, but then go back to not watching/reading.

  it just isn't worth it.. in the video, when they knew the storm was coming, the pre-planned disaster relief people texted elders to warn them to evacuate.

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  Zoos

  OnTheWayOut9 hours agoZoos, thanks for that. Is that a quote I missed or just a thought of yours?

  In a recent thread (I cannot find) reporting on the missteps of WT lawyers I read where they were asked by the judge why they failed to file/obtain/pursue something ordered by the court.

  The lawyer's response was, "We could have but we didn't."

  I was just spoofing that comment.