Posts by Zoos

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Introducing...ME

by Heartsafire in

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long time lurker here.

i'm a fifth gen born-in baptized jw.

to say i've been struggling with doubts is an understatement.

I need help finding 2 specific Awake or Watchtower articles from 70's or 80's regarding converting homosexuals.

by paul from cleveland in

i remember reading at least 2 articles from the 70's or early 80's referencing people that supposedly changed from gay to straight while jehovah's witnesses.

i can't remember the specifics or maybe i was just reading that into the article at the time.

does anyone remember these articles or something similar?.

Zoos

I grew up reading the same articles in the 70's and 80's, trying to pray away the gay... the whole time dreading the implications of what becoming straight would mean.

Sex with a female.

[Straight folks should consider what it would be like to pray to God and ask Him to change them to homosexual... and all the implications that go along with it.]

I was devastated that God would not answer my prayers to become something I was terrified of becoming. I didn't HATE women... I just didn't want to go THERE with one. It had me so twisted up inside I spent a lot of time crying in private. The rest of the time I polished my skills at playing the little Christian hetero-boy character. I'd like to think I was pretty good at it.

Sometimes I think back to childhood and wonder if there was ever a real family bond there for me, as I realized I was different at a very young age and the grown-ups did not speak well of that difference. I figured out VERY early to keep that part hidden and be someone else.

I guess the family is only shunning a character I used to play because they never really got to meet ME.

Isn't it ironic that the major "ex-gay" ministries in the U.S. are finally coming out and admitting publicly that it doesn't work that way and have issued empty apologies. I guess we'll have to pass those apologies on to all the suicide victims when we get to hell.

... because fags still go to hell. (or die at Armageddon or some such...)

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1914 'Big A' WT Retraction/Apology?!

by lurkernomore in

so i just met with an old 'friend' who wanted a 'chat' after no contact for the best part of 4 years.

she obviously heard about the wonderful news of my abrupt fade :d. i guess i wanted to prove to myself that any future meet ups/chats with jw's would be pointless.

needless to say i proved myself right.

Zoos

"Would you be so kind as to find the literature that contains the apology over 1914?"

That's a great idea. Make her feel like you could reconsider your position if you were to learn the organization humbly apologized. Put the burden of research on her and let her go.

If she really does take your salvation seriously she is going to have to do an awful lot of reading through that old Rutherford crap, ending in failure to find an apology. It's a win/win.

Just might be the ticket to awakening yet another mind.

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Lights

by Drudge in

i know some jehovah witness that have a yard full of lights, that they put on at night time.

but when xmas comes around they don't light them up!

of course, because they don't want their neighbors to think they believe in xmas.

Zoos

Lights make Jehovah sad.

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No-See-ums bug bites, have you experienced these little pest?

by James Mixon in

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the wife and i here lately have received little unknown bug bites, on our legs and arms.. so today in my senior class the instructor ask if anyone received any unknown bug bite.. there were 75% that raised there hand and everyone ask, what the hell is it.. these insects are ferocious biters.

they don't spread any diseases, but they will keep you indoors.. they are called valley blacks gnats, they feed on blood.

in my research i found they are active in.

Zoos

In my research I found they are active in Phoenix, Az, Denver, Tn just to name a few places.

You can add South Carolina to that list.

[scratch]

*itch*

:(

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"New Light never contradicts Old Light, but simply adds to it"

by stuckinarut2 in

does anyone remember this classic quote from a society publication??.

i remember it has been quoted many times, but i cant find the reference.. if this comment is to be taken literally, it condemns the organization anytime there has been a complete changes in teachings and doctrine!

.

Zoos

JWFACTS, the problem with that quote is that it was made in 1881 by C.T. Russell. We can't use that on modern day JWs because Russell has been demoted to John the Baptist status wherein he only prefigures the drunk dude who was the real first faithful slave. So Russell was just a man that was followed who claimed to be directed solely by God whereas Rutherford is directed by God because he is the faithful slave despite the flip-flops that might suggest we were following man....

... I have a headache.

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I need help finding 2 specific Awake or Watchtower articles from 70's or 80's regarding converting homosexuals.

by paul from cleveland in

i remember reading at least 2 articles from the 70's or early 80's referencing people that supposedly changed from gay to straight while jehovah's witnesses.

i can't remember the specifics or maybe i was just reading that into the article at the time.

does anyone remember these articles or something similar?.

Zoos

Curious what you're working on, Paul from the land of Cleveland. Or did you just have a bug in your tail and wanted to refresh your memory on something?

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Top three reason for it to be cult and/or not the true religion.

by Powermetal4ever in

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alright, i want everyone to list your top three reasons for jw to be cult and/or not the true religion.

1.you can't look, or wear whatever you want.. 2. blah.

3. blah.

Zoos

#3 - When I was a kid, door-to-door service cut in to Saturday morning cartoons.

#2 - When I was a kid, Sunday Watchtower study cut in to Casey Kasem"s American Top 40 Countdown.

#1 - Millions of apostates can't be wrong!

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My Mother Died Two Weeks Ago

by Perry in

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none of my jehovah's witness relatives called to tell me or my family.

just found out this morning.

Zoos

I wonder how many groups of people there are that have to deal with this phenomenon on a regular basis. I also expect to find the obituary of the women who birthed me through an Internet search. Fortunately for me it will no longer constitute a loss in any way. I'm more bothered by the principle of the matter.

Sorry for your insult, Perry.

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When I Was School Overseer . . .

by compound complex in

we were instructed not to give public counsel to the students, but to use the two minutes alloted afterwards to supplement, from the aid book, the subject matter presented by the students.

the following information on jehovah's answering of prayer came to mind when replying to another thread moments ago.. doubtless, our viewpoint on this and other scriptural matters has taken on a new direction -- if any at all.

having worked on this bible dictionary while at bethel, i retain a fondness for it.

Zoos

Most people, myself included, would read that explanation of how prayer works and think nothing of it, even a non-believer just shrugging it off as an innocuous fairy tale. It never would have occurred to me the devastating effects of that one single aspect - wait on Jehovah in prayer - could have on people who are mentally locked in, and in certain desperate situations.

I SHOULD have known, having spent my youth trying to "pray away the gay" and finally concluding I must have done SOMETHING as a child to make God hate me. Spent the next 15 years in a bottle of vodka.