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  Elders School 2017: New instructions to handle sexual abuses?

  by sp74bb in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  an informant in spanish forum, active elder in a congregation in madrid (spain) has posted new info regarding elders school 2017. important changes are to be done for "child" or sexual abuses.

  https://abusostj.vbulletin.net/forum/main-forum/audiencias-judiciales/5506-escuela-de-ancianos-2017.

  doing a summary:.

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  Zoos

  "Jimmy, now that you understand you can report this to the police if you want, take a moment to consider the reproach that would bring on Jehovah's name."
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  You're welcome ...

  by Simon in

  1. forum
  2. announcements

  i figured i'd shut the site down for a couple of hours to encourage everyone to do their xmas shopping.

  the error message was a subtle hint, that's what "500 error" means ... go shopping.. whatever rumours you hear, it definitely wasn't that someone deployed a quick update before going on a 1.5 hour car ride to pick someone up and didn't think that the page they tested, to check it was all working after the update, happened to be cached.

  no siree bob, not that, na hah.. anyway, you're welcome for the extra chance to, erm, shop..

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  Zoos

  Ah, spin. Watchtower has taught us well. ;)
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  Ex JWs in Spain contacted their Government to act against the JWs on child sexual abuse matters

  by Susan Gaskin in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  the letter below (translated from spanish) was just sent out yesterday to the minister of justice in spain by ex jws.

  the collective group who did this have a website with this link: http://www.foroextj.com/.

  email: [email protected] facebook: www.facebook.com/abusostj twitter: @abusostj.

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  Zoos

  Don't try that crap in America. Appealing to morality or human decency will get you nowhere around here and FACTS MEAN NOTHING! Hell, we're not even interested in the laws anymore.

  See: Recent election
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  Angry and scared

  by BlackWolf in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i feel like everything that comes out of my mothers mouth is something negative and cringe worthy.

  all she seems to talk about with me is how terrible and demonic our disfellowshipped relatives are, how horrible the world and holidays are, or how she is so much better and "holier than thou".

  it really makes me sick sometimes.

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  Zoos

  I don't know what your belief system is, but try this:

  "I would like to get baptized but I only want to dedicate my life to God, not an organization. As long as the Watchtower perverts baptism into a contract with a religious corporation, I'll have to hold off."

  .... and then quote the second question asked of baptismal candidates.
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  "You Wouldn't Believe How Many Have Crawled Back To The Meetings"

  by minimus in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  that's a comment i heard from an elder i haven't seen in over a decade, yesterday.

  i mentioned it all on my other thread.

  i responded that i knew of no one that was crawling back to the meetings and gave him an incredulous hearty chuckle.

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  Zoos

  I'm not surprised to hear that at all.

  When I went back in 2003 seeking reinstatement, one of the elders told me that many came crawling back after 9-11. Of course they left again after they realized Armageddon wasn't coming - WHICH ONLY SHOWS HOW INSINCERE THEY WERE.
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  Copy of Crisis of Conscience for Sale

  by Village Idiot in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i’ve run into hard financial times and have decided to sell my second copy of coc for a fair price.

  you’ll find them on amazon for ridiculous prices starting from $59.84 for a beat up used one to $294.96 and up for a new condition copy.

  i’m selling mine in new condition for $50.00 plus shipping which should not be more than $5.

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  Zoos

  I will email you a pdf copy absolutely free.

  PM me.
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  Update on MIL shunning

  by BeautifulMind in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  hello on this beautiful sunday!

  just a quick little update to the post i made a few months ago about my mil shunning us.

  quick recap: during a convo after she attended the rc and was going on and on about how powerful it was and how great the videos were, blah, blah, blah...i couldn't take it anymore and told her that's not our lives anymore and i didn't want to hear anymore about it and to please respect that and move on to something else to talk about.

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  Zoos

  Even if she does come to see the kids, are you prepared to let your children suffer the emotional effects of having a grandma who is only OCCASIONALLY interested in seeing them?

  Why not let grandma know she's either a full part of your children's lives (which includes the entire family) or NO PART. Playing games like that with children is abuse.
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  Why blame the Watchtower?

  by deegee in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  if god has a relationship with every christian and every christian is praying to him then wouldn't he tell every christian the same thing so that christians would agree on matters of doctrine and practice?.

  it is certainly puzzling why sincere and devout people equally seek god's will and pray to him yet they all come up with different answers so that there are approximately 40,000 different christian denominations (center for the study of global christianity (csgc) at gordon-conwell theological seminary).. before his death, jesus called for agreement among his followers rather than division (john 17:20-21).

  he declared that he would send the holy spirit to guide persons into all the truth (john 14:16 - 17, 26, john 15:26, john 16:7,13 - 15).. so shouldn't anyone who has a relationship with jesus, reads the bible, and listens to the holy spirit come to the same conclusions as others who are doing the same thing?.

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  Zoos

  This is precisely why "ONLY JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES have the true faith and will inherit God's kingdom", and "anyone who disagrees is NOT OF OUR SORT."
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  I Think I have Found a Way to Litigate

  by Simon Templar in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i have been thinking about how the wtb&t society bullies all of its members into submission with the threats they use (by practice), i.e.

  “if you do this we will df you and you will be shunned”.

  “if you da yourself, we will make an announcement and your friends, relatives and family will abandon you”, etc.

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  Zoos

  It would be pretty effortless to show a court the many times Watchtower has PUT IN PRINT the mandate to shun.
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  Will Jehovah`s Witnesses join with other religions in Compensation Payouts ?

  by smiddy in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  justice mcclellen asked g.jackson about compensation for victims of child abuse , and mcclellan suggested it be by a consortium of groups , presumably religious and secular in nature as a pool to dispense approppiate compensation to all of the victims involved .. g.jackson hesitated and said they would have to look at the details of that proposal , before committing to it.. jehovah`s witnesses consider themselves as the only true religion and ,all others as false religion .. they take pains to separate themselves from from any association with other religions , not even being included in newspaper notices about church services.they want to keep themselves separate and distinct from false religion as they see them.. so how do you think they will handle this suggestion / requirement ?

  will they join in aligning themselves with "babylon the great" in compensation .?.

  didn`t they align themselves with another religion in the u.s.a. some years ago , that had to do with the w.t.

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  Zoos

  Well then, it will be up to us to let the world know what the WBTS refuses to pay.