1914 did not bring the end they were hoping for so new light shone down from above and corrected their understanding.. 1925 also led to unfulfilled expectations and so new light was bestowed.. .
(i could go through all the dates and expectations... but i won't.).
what if the new light about 1914 being the year that christ returned was provided before 1914?
Magnum, the generation doctrine is the perfect example - I should have used it. They're still grappling with it and will continue for many years as time will eventually force yet more new light.
Even the new light on the identity of the F&DS did not just happen. I suspect it was due to too many "emotionally imbalanced" anointed people wanting to insert their spirit-directed thinking into the literature.
Reactive!
1914 did not bring the end they were hoping for so new light shone down from above and corrected their understanding.. 1925 also led to unfulfilled expectations and so new light was bestowed.. .
(i could go through all the dates and expectations... but i won't.).
what if the new light about 1914 being the year that christ returned was provided before 1914?
There was a watchtower article that said they can't be sure about what happens until the event actually occurs.
Simplified: We have no more insight than anyone else.
1914 did not bring the end they were hoping for so new light shone down from above and corrected their understanding.. 1925 also led to unfulfilled expectations and so new light was bestowed.. .
(i could go through all the dates and expectations... but i won't.).
what if the new light about 1914 being the year that christ returned was provided before 1914?
1914 did not bring the end they were hoping for so new light shone down from above and corrected their understanding.
1925 also led to unfulfilled expectations and so new light was bestowed.
(I could go through all the dates and expectations... but I won't.)
What if the new light about 1914 being the year that Christ returned was provided BEFORE 1914? Might that have provided some credibility to those claiming to be the mouthpiece of God? Is there any example in the bible where God let an operation error to go to his true servants until the passage of time required him to set matters straight?
the watchtower (and old-timers in the org) love to quote old testament passages that were directed toward israel.
however, the new testament is "a better covenant based upon better promises".. in the following verses, salvation is not described as a possibility, but as a certainty, as a present possession for the original christians:.
justification is a present possession (rom.
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just heard from an elder.
he told me that there is another change to be announced in august.
he didn't know more about it.. any other info?.
What is the celestial chariot up to now?
a friend of mine who is a astronomer told me a asteroid will hit the earth near ca in 2036. it will make a close pass by earth in 2029 and if it goes through a certain point he called a donut hole it will come back and get us in 2036. i asked him if it is big enough to cause problems?
he laugh and said it is extinction asteroid.
he went on to say the russians are already working on a plan to destroy it before in makes it here or try and change the course of it.
2036 huh?
Well, my advice to young people would be that you need to face the fact that you will never grow old in this present system of things. Because all the evidence an astronomer friend of ADD indicates that this corrupt system is due to end in 2036. ... Therefore, as a young person, you will never fulfill any career that this system offers . If you are in high school and thinking about a college education, it means at least four, perhaps even six or eight more years to graduate into a specialized career. But where will this system of things be by that time? It will be well on the way toward its finish.
when you were a devout jw.
did you feel that you had an actual "relationship" with jehovah/god just from praying to him and reading the wt or bible?.
or that this was actually even possible deep down?.
Punk: ...but I don't believe a one way relationship works with an invisible, silent and seemingly indifferent creature.
... That isn't a relationship, that's more like shunning.
That realization is what ended prayer for me. Oh, I still believe God is up there, be He Jehovah, Jesus or both, and I have to think He cares somehow and will act someday. But I don't know how to make a relationship out of that. Being a JW taught me that all the emotion we wrap up in our worship to God is meaningless, empty, serves no purpose. I was deeply invested in the notion that what I was doing was pleasing to God, only to find out out it was all for squat.
I like this scripture, Zephaniah 2:3
Seek the Lord , all you humble of the land, you who do what he commands.
Seek righteousness, seek humility;
perhaps you will be sheltered
on the day of the Lord ’s anger.
I can figure out what His commands are from reading the bible. Not sure what righteousness is but I'm not going back to a church to find it. Hopefully it just means being a good, decent person. Humility is useful in many settings but not all. Nevertheless, I pursue it. I do all these things because I choose to be this person, not because it has been mandated.
Finally, "perhaps I will be sheltered on the day of the Lord's anger"??? What can be said to that? When He decides whether or not I'm a decent enough person to keep around and maybe decides to talk or interact in some way, then that's a basis for a relationship. Until then... we got nuth'n.
for more news about this - google mike kim - you tube.
"not in my town".
http://www.koat.com/news/new-mexico/albuquerque/man-accused-of-sexually-assaulting-daughter-raping-mother/21482170.
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talking with a long time elder last night, was very revealing.
he has been a jw for over 60 years, a man that was incarcerated in cuba in his early 20s and faced great loss and suffering over his beliefs and for being born in a communist country.
this brave man is now brittle and low-spirited.. while nightfalls on his life, he is made aware the end is near.
“I think humans will eventually go extinct if Jehovah does not do anything”
Expectation postponed is making the heart sick...
i like to tell you what we've been doing these past few days here in portugal (ex-jw).
we create a brochure and printing, so we can send to the maximum of congregations in portugal.
some individuals were also covered in this campaign.. the title of the pamphlet is: "when will the kingdom arrive?".
I live in the U.S, but my parents are from Portugal (Azores)
Trapped, are you qualified to translate it? I can lay it out exactly like it appears above and post it as a downloadable brochure if someone could do the translating.
What oppostate said.
