it would be interesting to have some present (stonewall?
) at these meetings to witness and record talk number three on the tms.. talk 3 - "what the bible says about homosexuality" (reasoning book p.368-369).
the reasoning book tells us in part:.
This ststement is absolutely true:
"The Bible’s counsel is very much up to date in meeting the needs of those who want a clean conscience before God and a life free from needless frustration."
Through study of the bible this homo was freed of the WT cult and a lifetime of needless frustration.
today on my morning run i saw two sets of jw's going door to door on boston st. one set was two ladies and the other was two guys.
after i has passed them up on the sidewalk i turned around and began walking towards them.
the ladies turned to go up to another home just before i got to them but the guys were still approaching.
"Well yes it is, but that is rarely shared with people who are not of our faith?"
Because they KNOW how whacked it sounds.
Even when I was completely in and hopelessly indoctrinated I struggled making sense of the 1919 explanation. I shrugged it off as over my head - not spiritually mature enough to understand.
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apostate & ex-jehovalarious meme collection.
https://www.facebook.com/groups/jwmeme/.
So what happens when JWs encounter legally married gay couples? Do they now encourage divorce?
the leaks from the new november watchtower are alarming.
they will disturb even longtime jws who haven't surrendered all rational thought.
it's become so cult like its scary.
leaving_quietly: They will call it a "sifting" or "a refining".
For the November 14th Watchtower is alive and exerts power and is sharper than any two-edged sword and pierces even to the dividing of soul and spirit, and of joints and their marrow, and is able to discern thoughts and intentions of the heart.
http://www.theharrison-press.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=5918:jehovah-may-be-frowning&catid=79:columns&itemid=141.
brief summary:.
the jws, backed by county commissioners, contend they have a legal right to build an assembly hall in the jedd.
The WT has the attitude of, "It will be MY WAY and SCREW what YOU want!"
Whatever happened to the principle of:
And if a person wants to go to court with you and get possession of your inner garment, let your outer garment also go to him; and if someone under authority impresses you into service for a mile, go with him two miles.
a poster on another thread made the following comment, that really made me think.. it is about god: .
"imo i would say [god is] not evil but just indifferent.
apathy allows it.
Whether or not it is evil to sit on your hands taking notes while humanity suffers... I don't know. But my awakening from this cult has shown me how utterly disconnected God is from humans, how the direction of holy spirit is whatever our imaginings tell us it is.
I still believe there is a God up there but I have no desire to draw close to Him. I'm not even sure I want Him drawing close to me. I find his methods distasteful. And if our opinion of Him was as almighty important as some suggest...
SecondRateMind: ...given the premium He seems to place on our freedom to accept Him, or not, and love Him, or not.
...then it is incumbent on HIM to cast Himself better.
http://www.zazzle.com/watchtower+buttons .
these are so funny ....i think i broke a rib.
LOL "Let Me Spoil Your Useful Habits"
why do witnesses believe it was jehovah that said they would be persecuted in his name......it was jesus that said we would be persecuted in his name.
i often hear are the meeting the interchanging of names between jehovah and jesus.
it seems like the sheeple drones at the meeting have no real clue about the bible or how to believe.
I truly believe the trinity concept is in full motion on a subliminal level.
Mmm... I'm going to disagree with this.
I left the org. over a couple of issues. I learned about everything else after the fact. One of the things that absolutely floored me was how much the GB had demoted Jesus and usurped his position. It never occurred to me just how diminished he actually is in the organization until I was slapped in the face with the evidence.
I mentioned this to my wife last night that the poor Christians in Iraq are truly being persecuted in the name of Jesus. Again she gave me a blank stare…..as if trying to comprehend the reality it is in Jesus name and not Jehovah name that we would be persecuted.
You slapped her in the face with evidence and made her think. Your observation of her reaction is spot on. I don't see any Trinitarian element to it, just a realization that the emphasis has been directed away from Jesus in the WT org.
in the last year or so, many bible passages that i used to strongly and confidently apply to non-jws, began to seem to apply to jws.
this change in my thinking was shocking and disturbing.
i can best describe the feeling by comparing it to the feeling i got in 1981 when i watched the movie dead and buried starring james farentino.. in that movie there are murders committed in a small town by dead people reanimated by a doctor doing experiments.
Oh, to be sure they apply to JWs. They apply to all religions.
1 Corinthians 10:12 STILL applies to anyone who has left "JWdom". It's a process.
approximately 25 yrs ago today, i left the borg forever.. .
thank you jwn/jwd for helping me heal by listening to me.
there are not many greater gifts than freedom..
Congrats and thank you for all your contributions here.
