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  Need advice

  by Darkknight757 in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  hi.i've been pouring over this site for the past few days looking for some advice and i hope there is someone here that can help a guy out.

  i'm desperate.....short bio: i came into the organization after high school and shortly after married a wonderful girl who was born-in.we have been happily married now for nearly 20 years and things were well until 2015 hit.

  by the way, i currently serve as an elder and have the ""privilege"" of being the "watchtower overseer".. either here nor there, we were told we would never have children but late last year my wife became prego!!

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  Zoos

  Your wife is your "out".

  Tell the body you are stepping down to focus on your wife. Don't take any crap for your decision and don't let your wife talk you out of it.

  You can work out the details of a slow fade after that.
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  Just found out their about to baptise my 14 year old boy.

  by Crazyguy in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  there doing this right under my nose but i just found out.

  not sure what to do but would like your help on getting me wt information on my headship role and how they shouldn't be doing this with out my permission.

  also would like some help on showing my son the ramifications on what happens to someone when they get baptized and how they'll expect him to treat me.

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  Zoos

  Trying to look at this situation from your son's perspective.

  The brother(s) who study with him have probably implanted the idea of baptism into his head under the guise that it is a dedication to God. What loyal, emotionally charged young Christian wouldn't want to show God how much he/she loved Him by making this public dedication? He also gets to sit in the special place at the convention with thousands of eyes on him and enjoy all the accolades that come with it. Pretty enticing.

  How are you going to combat that without coming across as a God-hater... a position that will only confirm the warnings his "teachers" have probably already given him about you, thereby strengthening his resolve?

  That's a tough situation.

  I can think of three approaches off the top of my head:

  1. Lead with making your son KNOW that you approve of his love/dedication/sincerity for God.

  2. Calmly show him how Watchtower has perverted baptism into a loyalty contract with the organization and how such a thing is not scripturally supported.

  3. Show him how even Jesus - THE SON OF GOD - in whose footsteps we are supposed to walk, waited until he was VERY mature before making such an important decision. Then ask him to contemplate the reasons why Watchtower would want to hurry him into such a contract. (Keeping in mind what you said in your OP about how the elders will expect your son to treat his own father after baptism)

  YOUR CALM, LEVEL HEADED APPROACH WILL BE VITAL.

  Just spewing what jumped into my head. Hope this comes across as at least semi-coherent.
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  Watchtower HATES being compared to Catholic Church - but if the shoe fits...

  by Zoos in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  remember this?.

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  well how about this?.

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  Where is the last picture from?

  http://www.jw-archive.org/post/124414548498/new-hidden-platform-confuses-nutter-trying-to

  i followed this back to jaw Archive and found an explanation that the hidden stage was to protect the speakers (visiting GB members?) from crazed apostates and snipers.
  
  
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  Watchtower HATES being compared to Catholic Church - but if the shoe fits...

  by Zoos in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  remember this?.

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  well how about this?.

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  Zoos

  Remember this?

  
  

  Well how about THIS?

  
  
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  Should I associate with this person?

  by stuckinarut2 in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  so there is a guy who wants me to associate with him.

  but there are some strange things about him, such as:.

  he hears "direction from unseen" forces.. he thinks the idea of slavery was ok.. he likes killing animals and splashing their blood around and making huge bonfires of carcasses smoke all day long.. he has one wife, or maybe two, but is ok with having lots of other sleeping partners as well.. he likes another person who slept with his own daughters.. he thinks women should be subservient and "keep their place".. he frowns on education.. he thinks killing in a war is ok if they deserve it...even babies should be killed.. he is often asking for money.. he thinks that pyramids foretell the future, and that only a few people can explain divine truths to him, except their explanations have changes many, many times...often contradicting other teachings.... etc..... get it?

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  Zoos

  ...ugh! Those Tea Party whackos are everywhere.
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  Yearbook - will they drop figures that show a decline?

  by freddo in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  do you think the yearbooks will stop showing negative information as the numbers stagnate or even drop?

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  Zoos

  Can't you feel it brothers? Will you be faithful to the end? Will you?

  
  
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  Yearbook - will they drop figures that show a decline?

  by freddo in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  do you think the yearbooks will stop showing negative information as the numbers stagnate or even drop?

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  They left us because they were "not of our sort".

  
  

  You can say THAT again.
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  Yearbook - will they drop figures that show a decline?

  by freddo in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  do you think the yearbooks will stop showing negative information as the numbers stagnate or even drop?

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  I think they will exaggerate.

  
  

  I don't see how they could get away with this very easily, unless the branch bosses are just as brazenly corrupt.

  If HQ published fabricated numbers, the branch offices that send the information in would know about it and word would spread. Despite all the hullabaloo, I still think MOST people in that cult would cry foul over such a blatant misrepresentation of numbers.
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  I'm not religious I'm spiritual?

  by Joliette in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  how do you guys feel when you hear people say this?

  whenever i tell people that i'm not religious, a humanist, they said i'm not religious either, i'm spiritual.

  i consider myself to be a humanist, and i can't tell you guys how happy i am being a humanist.

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  Zoos

  If people believe in it, if it makes them more comfortable at night, then by all means, believe in a spiritual world, just don't force that on me!

  
  Once you remove religion from the equation you automatically arrive at a group of people with no desire to force anything on you. A willingness to share an opinion, answer questions, ASK questions, and respect the beliefs of others, yes.

  But the force is no longer with them.
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  Elder caught on camera harassing EXJW neighbor.

  by notjustyet in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  there pertinent stuff starts at 11:30 minute mark.

  it says in the video that this guy is an elder neighbor and has been shooting his chickens and also possible killing the plants in his garden.

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8qbgyjdy7da?t=11m29s.

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  Yikes! If that guy lived next door to me I'd kill his chickens too.

  I thought Medusa was supposed to be a woman.