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  It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

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  if you would the what about the 10s of thousands of people it has saved from jw?

  There is certainly no evidence I am aware of that any book, including COC, has saved "10s of thousands of people . . . from jw." Is that shot glass empty?
  
  
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  It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

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  If Raymond franz had used prostitutes and was a narcissist would it make crisis of conscience any less valuable? It would be a shame they weren’t an upstanding human that we could respect but C OF C would still be accurate and useful

  Yes, if the facts of your hypothetical were true, it would make COC less valuable because adultery, regardless of whether it's with a paid prostitute or anyone else, has a negative bearing on the credibility of the adulterer. Put simply, if a person is cheating on his wife who later discovers his adultery, the wife will likely never trust her husband to be honest ever again. Why would anyone of sound mind and reasonable intelligence expect an adulterer to be honest with anyone else?

  Unlike the slob that you are here to support, I am unaware of any allegations of adultery made against Raymond Franz.
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  It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

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  Going through someone’s accounts without them there to give an explanation is a total waste of time and all conclusions you come to are invalid as the person hasn’t given their reply, as annoying as it may be, that he won’t reply, he won’t so all you are left with is unconfirmed speculation, It is as it is.

  So, after your ad hominem fallacious argument had the same effect as a bad laxative as it didn't move anyone, you're changing your argument to "going through someone's accounts without them there to give an explanation is a total waste of time." It seems to me that your hopeless effort to defend the indefensible is the real waste of time.
  
  
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  It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

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  picking through his accounts like this just shouts out jealousy because he has been successful in his activism, . . .

  What you refer to as "jealousy" is actually healthy skepticism being exercised by folks who left a high-control group that frowns on any form of dissent or skepticism. Given the allegations about his conduct, and his rebuttal, skepticism about his accounts is certainly both healthy and reasonable. It's your right to serve as Lloyd's advocate, despite the disturbing allegations and pathetic response to them. However, your use of ad hominem arguments like "those who ask questions are jealous of him" demonstrates rather clearly that there is no merit to your position.
  

  The publicly-available financial statements do not support your characterization of his activism as "successful." If you're referring to something other than financial success, please elaborate and provide some facts to support your claims.
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  It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

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  Since the company has a loss for this year part of that loss is covered by financial investment. Basically you cover the loss by your special reserve. This doesn't mean cash is moved from A to B.

  That's not what the statement reflects. The statement of cash flows shows the impact on the cash balance of operating activities, investing activities and financing activities. The 11,185 Euros I referenced in my last post is shown as an "investment activity" cash outflow affecting the cash balance. It is included in the "net cash flow" amount of -41,619 Euros that is added to cash at the start of the period of 49,843 Euros to arrive at the balance of cash at the end of the 2022 reporting period, 8,224 Euros. Therefore, cash was definitely moved from A to B. Additionally, since this is a capital transaction, there is no income or expense associated with it and it is unlikely to have any effect on the taxes to be paid by the business.
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  WARNING! If you DELIBERATELY avoid the JW memorial.....

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  .......you will experience a fate worse than death!

  you have been warned - don't come crying to me if you don't go.

  you've got one month to change your mind.

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  The last time I took my parents to the Memorial, it was the same old same old. As I did when I was a young kid, I stared at the clock for the entire meeting and was thrilled when it was over. I also doped myself up pretty good to allow me to sit in my seat and not leave. There's no way I could handle sitting there for an hour while sober.
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  LMSA,

  Those are the statements I found. I saw nothing particularly interesting about them, but there was one item that seems worthy of some attention. There's a line item on the cash flow statement with a Euro amount shown for 2022 only: "Change of capital and reserve without the profit/loss of the current year" in the amount of 11,185 Euros. This appears to be a withdrawal of cash that is not an expense of the business; therefore, it is not reflected in the income statement. Since it reduces the cash balance, it affects the balance sheet and the statement of cash flows.
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  LMSA,

  It looks like you're at the right place. You can click "more information" on the balance sheet, income statement, balance sheet addendum, and cash flow statement to get the complete statements. They do not have a download feature, but if you print the financial statement to a .pdf file, it will produce a complete statement on .pdf.
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  This is the FINA site where you can view and download the financial statements for Ipsilon Media. It has 2020, 2021 and 2022 financial statements posted. https://infobiz.fina.hr/landing
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  Hey, I believe LMSA posted the original and a translated version already a few days ago. Have a look

  No, those are the notes to the financial statements that accompany the financial statements, but not the financial statements. I have the balance sheet, income statement, addendum to balance sheet, and cash flow statement for several years, in .pdf format.