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135

SAVE ROE NOW!!!

by Valentine in

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dear friends of reproductive freedom,.

george w bush and his right-wings friends are quietly pursuing their domestic agenda while the nations attention is focused on international terrorism.. bush's attacks on women's reproductive freedom continue.. examples;.

1. on his first day in the oval office,bush re-instated the global gag rule,which takes family planning funds from organizations that even mention the option of abortion to their patients,risking womens lives overseas.. 2. bush has promised to re-visit the food and drug administration's approval of ru-486.and anti-abortion forces in congress have already introduced a bill to limit it's availability.. 3. with the expected retirement of 3 supreme court justices ,including sandra day o'connor,who is often the critical swing vote on abortion rights issue,bush has made it clear that he will nominate the most adamant opponents of abortion and civil rights.. the bush administration is committed to strategies that limit life saving stem cell research,criminalize abortion providers,reduce the availability of birth control and deny funding of health reproduction education in the schools.. what better way to take on the christian coalition and ultra-right leaders and movements,than to use your voice to speak up now!!.

144thousand_and_one

MADonna is the biggest slut in the entertainment business that there is. Her example I'm sure is responsible for many young girls having unwanted pregnancies, and yet she said on Larry King live that she won't let her little girl "Lourdes" watch "Barney" because she doesn't want her to be corrupted by this kiddy show. She is evil!

KJV,

This libelous statement about Madonna is both unnecessary and untrue. First, you have no basis for labeling Madonna a slut, unless you've been stalking her and know her personal business. Gossip magazines do not provide sufficient basis for such a conclusion. Secondly, I find it hard to believe that Madonna's risque clothing and performances are the cause of unwanted pregnancies for many young girls. Many factors are responsible for unwanted pregnancies, including without limitation the teaching of abstinence instead of contraception, puritanical values in this country that inhibit the dissemination of family planning information and services, peer pressure from young men and women who tend to be very sexually active, etc. Accordingly, your attribution of blame for unwanted pregnancies to Madonna is devoid of merit. Finally, as to your opinion that Madonna is "evil," let he who is without sin cast the first stone.

You might have left the org, but it appears the org hasn't left you.

135

SAVE ROE NOW!!!

by Valentine in

jw
friends

dear friends of reproductive freedom,.

george w bush and his right-wings friends are quietly pursuing their domestic agenda while the nations attention is focused on international terrorism.. bush's attacks on women's reproductive freedom continue.. examples;.

1. on his first day in the oval office,bush re-instated the global gag rule,which takes family planning funds from organizations that even mention the option of abortion to their patients,risking womens lives overseas.. 2. bush has promised to re-visit the food and drug administration's approval of ru-486.and anti-abortion forces in congress have already introduced a bill to limit it's availability.. 3. with the expected retirement of 3 supreme court justices ,including sandra day o'connor,who is often the critical swing vote on abortion rights issue,bush has made it clear that he will nominate the most adamant opponents of abortion and civil rights.. the bush administration is committed to strategies that limit life saving stem cell research,criminalize abortion providers,reduce the availability of birth control and deny funding of health reproduction education in the schools.. what better way to take on the christian coalition and ultra-right leaders and movements,than to use your voice to speak up now!!.

144thousand_and_one

Abaddon,

Population pressure is no sociological artifact. I find it interesting that you seem to have interpreted my posts to mean that I am concerned with the effects of the population explosion on the food supply.

Exponential population growth does indeed threaten more famine, not due to lack of food resources, but due to greed. Nevertheless, the ill effects of the population explosion is not limited to the food supply. Plants and animals are endangered and threatened with extinction due to the elimination of their natural habitat caused by the uncontrolled expansion of human population. The need for energy and water is also intensified by the population explosion, and foolish politicians in this country respond to that need with a push to expand the use of nuclear power, resulting in additional pollution issues. Overpopulation has also resulted in dangerous levels of pollution of our air, water, and land.

To assert that population pressure is merely a social artifact ignores a serious problem and is analogous to burying one's head in the sand.

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Court Case Proof Jws Do Not Obey Jesus

by Kenneson in

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matt.

10:14 is undeniable evidence that jws do not follow what jesus advocates.

"if anyone does not receive you or listen to what you have to say, leave that house or town, and once outside shake its dust from your feet.

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Farkel,

It's about buying and selling books and magazines for the benefi[t] of a religious printing Corporation which offers fake salvation in return.

In addition to buy and selling books and magazines, it's also about contributions! What cult could exist without 'em?

135

SAVE ROE NOW!!!

by Valentine in

jw
friends

dear friends of reproductive freedom,.

george w bush and his right-wings friends are quietly pursuing their domestic agenda while the nations attention is focused on international terrorism.. bush's attacks on women's reproductive freedom continue.. examples;.

1. on his first day in the oval office,bush re-instated the global gag rule,which takes family planning funds from organizations that even mention the option of abortion to their patients,risking womens lives overseas.. 2. bush has promised to re-visit the food and drug administration's approval of ru-486.and anti-abortion forces in congress have already introduced a bill to limit it's availability.. 3. with the expected retirement of 3 supreme court justices ,including sandra day o'connor,who is often the critical swing vote on abortion rights issue,bush has made it clear that he will nominate the most adamant opponents of abortion and civil rights.. the bush administration is committed to strategies that limit life saving stem cell research,criminalize abortion providers,reduce the availability of birth control and deny funding of health reproduction education in the schools.. what better way to take on the christian coalition and ultra-right leaders and movements,than to use your voice to speak up now!!.

144thousand_and_one

Overpopulation is not and will never become a problem on this planet.

Jan,

You are kidding, right?

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Supreme Court thumps JW Atty

by patio34 in

this is from slate.com news magazine.

i've added colors to the particularly interesting sections.

who's that knocking on my door?.

144thousand_and_one

The granting of a writ of certiorari (Court agrees to hear the case) by the Supreme Court is indeed a victory, as such a writ is discretionary and extremely difficult to come by.

135

SAVE ROE NOW!!!

by Valentine in

jw
friends

dear friends of reproductive freedom,.

george w bush and his right-wings friends are quietly pursuing their domestic agenda while the nations attention is focused on international terrorism.. bush's attacks on women's reproductive freedom continue.. examples;.

1. on his first day in the oval office,bush re-instated the global gag rule,which takes family planning funds from organizations that even mention the option of abortion to their patients,risking womens lives overseas.. 2. bush has promised to re-visit the food and drug administration's approval of ru-486.and anti-abortion forces in congress have already introduced a bill to limit it's availability.. 3. with the expected retirement of 3 supreme court justices ,including sandra day o'connor,who is often the critical swing vote on abortion rights issue,bush has made it clear that he will nominate the most adamant opponents of abortion and civil rights.. the bush administration is committed to strategies that limit life saving stem cell research,criminalize abortion providers,reduce the availability of birth control and deny funding of health reproduction education in the schools.. what better way to take on the christian coalition and ultra-right leaders and movements,than to use your voice to speak up now!!.

144thousand_and_one

Simon,

No one is denying the wastefulness of the USA's use of resources, but the point is that overpopulation is the single greatest cause of environmental degradation. The population explosion is a worldwide problem, not just a US or developing country problem. Banning/restricting abortion will magnify that problem by increasing population further.

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SAVE ROE NOW!!!

by Valentine in

jw
friends

dear friends of reproductive freedom,.

george w bush and his right-wings friends are quietly pursuing their domestic agenda while the nations attention is focused on international terrorism.. bush's attacks on women's reproductive freedom continue.. examples;.

1. on his first day in the oval office,bush re-instated the global gag rule,which takes family planning funds from organizations that even mention the option of abortion to their patients,risking womens lives overseas.. 2. bush has promised to re-visit the food and drug administration's approval of ru-486.and anti-abortion forces in congress have already introduced a bill to limit it's availability.. 3. with the expected retirement of 3 supreme court justices ,including sandra day o'connor,who is often the critical swing vote on abortion rights issue,bush has made it clear that he will nominate the most adamant opponents of abortion and civil rights.. the bush administration is committed to strategies that limit life saving stem cell research,criminalize abortion providers,reduce the availability of birth control and deny funding of health reproduction education in the schools.. what better way to take on the christian coalition and ultra-right leaders and movements,than to use your voice to speak up now!!.

144thousand_and_one

Just a Thought:

What planet do you live on? The population explosion is not "coming," it's here. Environmental degradation is not being sufficiently addressed by the "ways less drastic than discarding the weakest, most defenseless of our own." Hence, global warming, extinction of species, nuclear contamination, destruction of natural habitat, and pollution, to name a few environmental maladies, continue unabated and threaten to eventually destroy the earth and its inhabitants. Common sense dictates that banning/restricting abortion will only magnify these problems by increasing population.

Your assertion that abortion should have improved the judicial/crime problem is meaningless, as there is no way to objectively determine the effect of abortion on crime.

Just a thought, you've failed miserably to answer the questions raised by my post.

Target,

Have you any idea what the waiting list is like to adopt an infant?

There's no waiting list to adopt minority kids, only white ones. Banning/restricting abortion will increase the number of unwanted kids. All the anti-choice folks should demonstrate their sincerity to their cause by adopting a minority child.

Also, your conclusion that I believe most abortions are performed on the poor lacks any basis in the post I made, or in fact. Abortions are indeed had by all socioeconomic classes, but minority kids have the most difficulty getting adopted. The lack of a caring, nurturing family life (which is also experienced by many JW kids) often leads to emotional problems that manifest themselves in the form of criminal conduct.

Abortion is not killing babies, it is terminating a fetus. I am offended by fascist right wing zealots who don't respect the freedoms this country stands for, including the right for woman to make choices with respect to their physical well-being. This is the USA, if you don't like it here, get out and live in a country with a totalitarian form of government.

Target, you have also failed to answer the questions raised by my post. I'm not surprised, as there is no anti-choice answer that will make any sense.

135

SAVE ROE NOW!!!

by Valentine in

jw
friends

dear friends of reproductive freedom,.

george w bush and his right-wings friends are quietly pursuing their domestic agenda while the nations attention is focused on international terrorism.. bush's attacks on women's reproductive freedom continue.. examples;.

1. on his first day in the oval office,bush re-instated the global gag rule,which takes family planning funds from organizations that even mention the option of abortion to their patients,risking womens lives overseas.. 2. bush has promised to re-visit the food and drug administration's approval of ru-486.and anti-abortion forces in congress have already introduced a bill to limit it's availability.. 3. with the expected retirement of 3 supreme court justices ,including sandra day o'connor,who is often the critical swing vote on abortion rights issue,bush has made it clear that he will nominate the most adamant opponents of abortion and civil rights.. the bush administration is committed to strategies that limit life saving stem cell research,criminalize abortion providers,reduce the availability of birth control and deny funding of health reproduction education in the schools.. what better way to take on the christian coalition and ultra-right leaders and movements,than to use your voice to speak up now!!.

144thousand_and_one

Juit, Rhett, Larc, and Target:

Who will pay for the costs of raising the multitudes of unwanted children that would result from restriction/ban of abortion? Who will pay for the costs of incarcerating the high proportion of such kids who will become part of our judicial system? Who will pay restitution to the victims of the crime generated by these individuals?

Do you have any comprehension of the detrimental impact on the environment caused by the population explosion? More people equals more trash, more pollution, more consumption of natural resources, and more destruction of natural habitat. Do you believe that humans should overpopulate the earth? If so, what benefits to the earth do you foresee by such human overpopulation? How would you mitigate the exacerbation of the population explosion an abortion restriction/ban would occasion?

BTW, your arguments that your tax dollars should not go to funding abortions are financially irresponsible. A taxpayer funded abortion will be much less costly than the cost of the government-sponsored social services that will be necessary to pay the social services and judicical costs of raising these unwanted children.

Rhett, too bad your mother didn't practice the abstinence advocated by the Bush administration. It would have meant one less cold-hearted asshole in the world.

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Tough Question for ExElders...

by Xena in

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with a friend suddenly confronted with the prospect of being disfellowshiped recently it got me wondering about how an elder feels the first time he disfellowships someone.. the first time you disfellowshiped someone was there regret?

sadness?

or a sense of justice?.

144thousand_and_one

Xena,

Are you feeling OK? You asked a whole series of questions for those who are ex-elders, and none of the questions related to sex. Conduct unbecoming to an apostate?

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my family, my da status and my s-i-l (VENTING)

by peaceloveharmony in

well, i had a run in with my sister in law this weekend.

nothing direct between me and her since she shuns me.

but my brother dave told me something that just pissed me off to no end.

144thousand_and_one

Peace,

I'm not advocating violence, but Beth deserves to get her ass kicked! I wouldn't tolerate her bullshit, I'd confront her head on and let the chips fall where they will.

You're a special person and I hope it all works out for you. In the meantime, don't forget to make liberal use of the "Limpe'" to correct Beth's behavioral problems!

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