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Spirit in my house?

by Sirona in

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just thought i'd share with you some wierd happenings in my house..... i woke up one morning to see the figure of a young boy standing looking at me.

he was there for a split second then vanished.

i wasn't afraid - it was just sort of wierd.

Somehow, those ghosts, demons, and spirits never materialized around me, despite constant parental and Dubddom claims that they did indeed exist. Maybe I was so bad that they deemed overt action unnecessary? I can't rule them out just because I've never experienced their presence, but I also can't rule out UFOs, the Loch Ness Monster, or Big Foot (notwithstanding recent reports that the purported inventor of the "Big Foot" hoax recently passed away).

I remember JW tales of field service experiences where hands came out of tvs, books floated, etc., yet no one at the doors wanted to show me the fun stuff they showed the other brothers. I guess their psychic abilities enabled them to determine that I was not baptized yet nor likely to ever be baptized, so there was no need to expose me to such things.

Edited by - 144thousand_and_one on 3 January 2003 1:33:57

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Punk song: "Jehovahs Witness"

by 144thousand_and_one in

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friends

i just came across this song by a punk bank p/k/a "blanks 77.

" it is entitled "jehovahs witness.

" i found a site with the lyrics: .

144thousand_and_one

I just came across this song by a punk bank p/k/a "Blanks 77." It is entitled "Jehovahs Witness." I found a site with the lyrics:

"here they come knocking at my door don't wanna hear it, can't take it no more i'm still sleeping, can't you see jehovahs witness, bothering me we don't want no pamphlets no donation from me, you brainwashed tons o' people but you'll never fool me get your hand outta the collection plate! save that for the god you create! chapels are made of silver and gold your teaching is a scam for the money you hold why can't people just think for themselves organized religion's a joke believe what they say, don't question the word i can't take it no more! you drink his blood and eat his flesh sounds pretty sick to me why don't you just shut your mouth why don't you just let me be!"

They have (or had as one site stated they broke up?) the 80's sound and a nice energetic feel. Check them out!

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JW schoolteacher order to put up XMas tree

by blondie in

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/kr/20021224/lo_krnewyork/out_on_limb_over_christmas_trees

when told to put up tree, teacher says:

"no one can be made to put up a christmas tree," attio said.

144thousand_and_one

Scully,

Exposing children to Christmas trees, menorahs and the Muslim crescent and star is just as offensive to many atheists as this JW teacher's conduct is to many others. The main issue is neutrality, if all symbols of religious faith are presented in a display, the display is not neutral as it doesn't include a symbol representing the views of atheists. Maybe a Darwin fish?

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JW schoolteacher order to put up XMas tree

by blondie in

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/kr/20021224/lo_krnewyork/out_on_limb_over_christmas_trees

when told to put up tree, teacher says:

"no one can be made to put up a christmas tree," attio said.

144thousand_and_one

Scully,

The problem with the "multiculturism" approach is that it excludes those who choose not to believe in man's religions. Scam (church) and state ought to be separate!

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JW schoolteacher order to put up XMas tree

by blondie in

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/kr/20021224/lo_krnewyork/out_on_limb_over_christmas_trees

when told to put up tree, teacher says:

"no one can be made to put up a christmas tree," attio said.

144thousand_and_one

While she may indeed be a hypocrite, I don't like the idea of a public school ordering a teacher to display religious symbols of any nature. I wonder if the WT legal team has time to make a case out of this, or are too busy dealing with pedophile related suits?

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Judge Bans Shunning

by Farkel in

today i spoke with a former jw i've been in touch with for several years and discovered what i think could be a major bombshell for the wts.

as we all know, shunning is the most powerful weapon the wt cult has over its members and for decades the wts has been able to get away with practicing it at their whim.

the us and other courts have permitted them to to use it, even though it destroys families and has ruined countless lives.

144thousand_and_one

Farkel,

I think it's important to note that the jurisdiction of the court that issued this opinion is limited to the parties that were before it (i.e. the divorced/ing husband and wife). Therefore, even though the court was quoted as saying the "shunning must cease immediately," and "this Court hereby issues an order prohibitting 'shunning,'" it was putting the duty of compliance upon the father, not the Jehovah's Witnesses. The court has no legal jurisdiction over the Watchtower corporations in this matter whatsoever as they were not a party to the case. However, as it relates to the specific parties in this case, it appears to be a powerful victory that may be challenged by the father (possibly with WT legal support, but it's doubtful such a challenge would succeed). I believe that the mother could make a strong argument that even bringing the child to the meetings would violate the court's order, since bringing the child to the meeting would expose the child to the harmful effects of shunning. It is encouraging to see that at least one family law judge is wise enough to recognize that exposing children to the WT can be harmful to them . I'm looking forward to reading the entire opinion - please post it if you can.

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OJ makes me sick

by hannibal in

did anyone see oj simpson on espn last night?.

dan patrick interveiwed that scumbag.dan asked him... .

ya, so do you still spend money trying to find nicoles killer?.

144thousand_and_one

NO ONE on OJ's defense team had to explain ANYTHING about OJ or his actions. He went into that courtroom presumed an innocent man. It is the responsibility of the prosecutor (District Attorney's Office) to prove that he is guilty. THEY FAILED TO DO THAT. Therefore, OJ walked. Your gripe should be with the Prosecution team and the inept Darden and Clark.

Lisa,

Thanks for demonstrating that at least some of us remember what the Constitution is as well as what it means. The quote above summarizes the reality of the Simpson case; law enforcement and the prosecution bungled it.

Heathen,

Your efforts to make light of my statements regarding your racist views will not obfuscate them; I'm going to quote you here to remind you of the reasons for my statements:

I think it is a total sham that just because a white person uses the N word that some how he is demonized to the point of losing all credibility as a Law enforcement officer. - - Heathen

Law enforcement officers have lots of power, and if there is any evidence that they might be inclined to exercise that power in a discriminatory manner, they should be removed for the protection of the public. If racism was rooted out of the LAPD, we might have been able to avoid the Rodney King debacle and the riots that followed.

Heathen, your efforts to advocate the plight of cops who use racial slurs speaks volumes about your own views.

The jury was mostly black ,so go figure this one out. - - Heathen

By implication, you are stating that blacks are unqualified to serve as jurors if the defendant is also black, since blacks are likely to vote for acquittal if the defendant is black. This demonstrates your ignorance as well as your bigoted viewpoint, as black juries have sent many black defendants to death row.

Yes, Heathen, I can picture you wearing the hood and robe. They fit you well.

Edited by - 144thousand_and_one on 20 December 2002 11:41:20

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OJ makes me sick

by hannibal in

did anyone see oj simpson on espn last night?.

dan patrick interveiwed that scumbag.dan asked him... .

ya, so do you still spend money trying to find nicoles killer?.

144thousand_and_one

Waiting,

You're right, the jury could have made an incorrect decision. If I sat on either jury, I would have agreed with the verdicts in both cases. Our system isn't perfect, incorrect verdicts are reached all the time. But it's the only system we've got, and overall, it's better than most others out there.

Heathen, you're right about your freedom of speech to spout your racist views. I also have freedom of speech to tell you that bigots like you make me want to puke.

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OJ makes me sick

by hannibal in

did anyone see oj simpson on espn last night?.

dan patrick interveiwed that scumbag.dan asked him... .

ya, so do you still spend money trying to find nicoles killer?.

144thousand_and_one

PLMKRZY,

Nice attempt to misrepresent my earlier post. I won't respond. Apparently, you learned well at the kingdom hall.

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OJ makes me sick

by hannibal in

did anyone see oj simpson on espn last night?.

dan patrick interveiwed that scumbag.dan asked him... .

ya, so do you still spend money trying to find nicoles killer?.

144thousand_and_one

Whether I'm a layman in the law or not is irrelevant. I recommended a book by one of the best LAWYERS in this Country, and you poo-pooed it with your red-herring about my own lack of legal expertise. - - Farkel

As a person who makes a living in the legal profession, I find your status as a layman to be quite relevant when it comes to assessing the value of your recommendations regarding books to read on legal subjects.

If you don't want to educate yourself on the FACTS as presented by Bugliosi and instead, condescendly give us your lessons on the US Constitution, that is your choice. - - Farkel

I wasn't aware that Mr. Bugliosi had all the facts in the OJ case. The State of California could have saved a lot of money if this was known; we could have just had a trial that was limited to testimony by Bugliosi, a lawyer who according to Farkel, is "one of the best LAWYERS in this Country[!]" Why didn't you enlighten us before, Farkel?

While I do respect Mr. Bugliosi, I don't need to read his book to understand the OJ trial. I watched much of it, and one of my close friends was a law clerk for Judge Ito during the trial. Frankly, I'm sick of hearing about it and sick of people who disparage our courts over it, as this trial was anything but typical of trials in this state. I was at a luncheon where Christopher Darden spoke and publicly apologized for his unfair criticisms of Judge Ito. We're still waiting to hear from Marcia, who is now a television news commentator in Los Angeles.

As for your complaint that I am "condescend[ing]," you are hardly the person who ought to complain about that. Your posts reek of your arrogance, and I am only responding to you in kind. Remember, you are the one who initiated the hostile dialogue. If you can't take the heat, get out of the kitchen, crybaby!

This is the last time I will reply to you 144 .- - heathen

Given the quality of your previous responses, that's probably a good idea.

144thousand_and_one

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