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  Stands For True Worship. I am turning myself in......

  by DATA-DOG in

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  just answer this question in an honest and unbiased way, free from any circuitous reasoning or speculation.

  if you do so, i swear to my heavenly father, that i will call the elders tonight and turn myself in.

  any active jw may answer this question.

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  I got the same response when I asked the elders heartfelt, sincere and very difficult questions. I told them that my very faith and future spiritual life lay in the balance. I needed answers like my life depended on it. Which it did.

  What did they do? Zilch. Completely nothing. No answers came at all. Not one. countless questions were simply ignored or deflected. They left me to die a slow and painful spiritual death. The very reason I am here is because these men, these mere men, plain and simple with nothing but the most rudimentary high school education between them had no answers to give at all. They cowardly slid off into the shadows and just acted like I did not exist.

  I felt the most complete and deepest betrayal from these so called shepherds of God. So very deeply disappointed.

  I take some of the responsibilty for having placed even a modicum of faith in mere men. Men who are and were as deluded as I was at one time.
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  Funeral done

  by LouBelle in

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  we had the funeral on friday.

  my gran deserved so much more.

  maxi - my grandfather, sullied the whole process.

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  I don't know you but sorry for your sadness and loss LouBelle..
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  This is becoming quite a collectors item!!

  by Dis-Member in

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  2. scandals

  check out the price!.

  http://www.amazon.com/gp/offer-listing/0914675001/ref=tmm_hrd_new_olp_0?ie=utf8&condition=new&sr=&qid=.

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  Check out the price!

  http://www.amazon.com/gp/offer-listing/0914675001/ref=tmm_hrd_new_olp_0?ie=UTF8&condition=new&sr=&qid=
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  Watchtower Eliminated the "Evil Slave Class" according to E-Watchman? True or False?

  by AuntConnie in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  looking for information to make the july 15th, 2013 watchtower make sense, i came across the e-watchman website.

  is he a jehovah's witnesses waiting for the reformation or a apostate like all of us on jwn?.

  his post on the "faithful and evil slave" is very enlightening, according to his question he received from his readers, the watchtower said "there is no evil slave class" to eliminate fear the evil slave is working at bethel!.

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  I have had a fair bit of personal comminication with that E-Watcman fellow and find what he says about the governing body facinating. He describes them as they really are.. 'the disgusting thing in the Holy Place'.

  It pretty heavy reading but hey are not pearls worth diving deep for?

  And yes what the watchtower teach on so many very important issues is simply plain madness. You will do yourself an injury if you try to make any real sense of it.

  Madness is not meant to be understood.
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  WHY did we used to read this verse and think that it referred to Satan? How can anyone??

  by The Quiet One in

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  in any translation you like.... .

  http://biblehub.com/genesis/3-1.htm.

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  Of course Quiet One, I was just playing serpents advocate.

  Again and again I'm seeing that the org is showing itself not to be the possessors or messengers of truth but rather the master manipulators of truth.
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  Jehovah's Witnesses worship the GOLDEN CALF

  by Terry in

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  2. friends

  moses led enslaved jews out of bondage in egypt to promised reward.. moses went up on the mountain (sinai) and the people waited, ran out of faith and made an idol (golden calf) to worship.. those people thought they needed a centralized worship focused on the visible.

  they constructed their own.. the last centralized focus of worship, the temple in jerusalem, brought jews from everywhere to focus on one location.. when that was destroyed, they scattered and ran for the hills.. the true believers who replaced the jews (spiritual jews) banded together and concocted the church universal (catholic).

  to centralize a theocratic government.

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  Great thinking Terry.. thank you for sharing your thoughts as they awaken my own.
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  WHY did we used to read this verse and think that it referred to Satan? How can anyone??

  by The Quiet One in

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  in any translation you like.... .

  http://biblehub.com/genesis/3-1.htm.

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  Perhaps because Satan is referred to as the 'original serpent'?
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  In general, the people on this forum have a poor outlook spiritually speaking.

  by Stand for Pure Worship in

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  so i waz reading the august 15 wt study article, elisha saw fiery chariots, do you?

  and it made me think about this forum.

  if you remember, syria was hunting god's prophet, elisha.

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  Elisha was not a liar. Comparison over.

  Oh.. and the elders wife that tried to start an affair with me. What part of the Kingdom was I being used to fulfil there exactly?

  Privileges? Waiting 5 years to be allowed to hold a microphone in the meeting? Is that one of the privileges you are referring to?

  There are also a dozen religions that are growing faster then the Witnesses globally. Who is blessing them?

  Who said they are Jehovah's organisation? Them?
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  Does this mess up the creation timeline?

  by Dis-Member in

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  2. beliefs

  with man having been on earth only 6000 years and stuff?.

  http://www.theguardian.com/science/2013/oct/15/wiltshire-dig-frogs-legs-eaten-british-before-french.

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  With man having been on earth only 6000 years and stuff?

  http://www.theguardian.com/science/2013/oct/15/wiltshire-dig-frogs-legs-eaten-british-before-french
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  What does freedom from The Watchtower look like in the life of a former JW?

  by JustMeNonJDub in

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  thoughts?.

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  Pretty wonderful actually.

  After the confusion, frustration, dissapopinment, dissolusionment, anger, the feeling of having been lied to, conned, deceived has passed. And it does pass, the feeling of just being able to live one's life and no longer be a man pleaser is so liberating one would never want to trade one's liberty and freedom again.

  makes me wonder how we all let it happen in the first place.