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Here's what the org can do with it's billions..

by Dis-Member in

why don't they leave the magazines at home, go all out on they streets and do this for a change.. jesus would be very pleased.. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g65z8p1ynhw.

Why don't they leave the magazines at home, go all out on they streets and do this for a change.. Jesus would be very pleased..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G65z8p1YNhw

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Bizarre exchange with witness after being away for a year..

by Dis-Member in

i few moments ago i received a strange text message.

it read:.

russian government is opening a case on banning our jw.org website in russia.

Dis-Member

It's here..

http://www.jw.org/en/news/by-region/europe/russia/attempt-to-ban-website/

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Bizarre exchange with witness after being away for a year..

by Dis-Member in

i few moments ago i received a strange text message.

it read:.

russian government is opening a case on banning our jw.org website in russia.

Dis-Member

The manner in which one question followed another via consecutive texts, despite her non-replies, could be construed as harrassment.

She was from a totaly different congregation and had no idea that I'd not been to a meeting in a year.

My phone too is rather simple and basic so instead of sending a paragraph as you can with say an Iphone mine has limited characters per message so I had to send a small group of messages, but they were in rapid succession for form a paragrah at her end. No harassment there.

It what part of the world is asking mutiple questions harassment? We all did it ourselves when we knocked oin doors.. I always had a million questions for house holders. It's not harassment, it's called having a conversation.

The were not new points really either. It was all related to the single subject.. praying for bothers and the website.

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Bizarre exchange with witness after being away for a year..

by Dis-Member in

i few moments ago i received a strange text message.

it read:.

russian government is opening a case on banning our jw.org website in russia.

Dis-Member

I felt sick only because it gave me a reminder of how twisted and mental some of these people can be and why I left. Not because I am afraid or fear anything from them.

They can do me no harm.

I did not quite persue her.. I type really fast when I text an fired off a flurry of questions. None of which are disfellowhipping actions. I have asked far more challenging things to Overseers CO'S and elders and was met with the same cold silence. Nothing else.

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Bizarre exchange with witness after being away for a year..

by Dis-Member in

i few moments ago i received a strange text message.

it read:.

russian government is opening a case on banning our jw.org website in russia.

Dis-Member

I few moments ago I received a strange text message. it read:

Russian Government is opening a case on banning our jw.org website in Russia. What makes this situation even worse is that the brothers in Russia did not know that tis case existed until yesterday and their court date is today (01/22/14) This law will mean that anyone visiting the website will be condemned to prison. The Governing Body has begged s to pray to our great God Jehovah. Please pass on this message. Visit jw.org for info.

I have no idea who it came from but I am assuming a witness. It would be the first contact any witness has made with me in almost a year of me attending my last meeting.

I text them back asking who they were. The reply came back saying it was a young sister I worked with on the ministry one time a year ago and in her text she asked if I was fine.

"I'm just great" I text her back

I then asked her.. why are the governing body 'begging' the brothers to pray to Jehovah so the website does not get banned in Russia.. and does she think Jehovah really cares about websites?

I also said that the organisation has managed pretty well for a 100+ years with printed material so why is the website all of a sudden like the 'New Jerusalem' and must be preserved at all costs.

I asked if she also prayed for the poor brothers in Africa that had no Iphones, Ipads, Macbook Pro laptops or high speed internet that they too will have all the wonderful modern gadgets so they too can access the wonderful life saving website.

She replied that she prayed for them too and that Jehovah takes care of them anyway. (Wow!)

I then asked.. if the internet is now so great and wonderful.. then how come until only recently the governing body taught that the internet was full of nothing but evil and porn and demons and apostates and the entire internet is to be avoided unless absolutely necessary?

She then said that the Organisation uses any means available and possible to praise Jehovah and make his glorious name known and that's why the internet is so important.

Hmm..

I then asked her if praising Jehovah's name is the all important thing then why are witnesses not allowed to have personal blogs. websites, discussion forums,Youtube accounts, etc, simply to praise Jehovah's name? Several Kingdom Ministry's strongly disapprove of any such praising by the brothers.

She did not reply..

I then asked again about the poor brothers in Africa, and will she pray for them getting gadgets to access the all important website or just that they learn to make do with late or out of date copies of magazines often in the wrong language while their wealthy western spiritual brothers enjoy hi res retina display notebook screens in meetings with the latest Watchtower light and knowledge on tap?

She did not reply.

I then said if praising Jehovah's name is the all important thing then why am I not even allowed to wear a t-shirt that proudly says "I Love Jehovah" on it and if I did I would be dragged into the back courtroom for a whipping. Why is it that even our love and free spontaneous expression of our love for Jehovah is very rigidly controlled, managed and censored and rammed into a very tight narrow corridor by this same governing body who at the same time teach that praising Jehovah's name is the sole duty and purpose of all intelligent creation? Why can my absolute love for Jehovah only be expressed along extremely narrow and rigid lines like singing a depressing song written by someone we don't know in archaic language I could never conjour up no matter how hard I tried or reading words verbatim from a paragraph we did not write.. even our free spontaneous expressive love is measured, curbed and dictated by this same governing body?

She did no reply.

I then text her that none of this makes any sense to me.. and that it's complete and total madness.

The next reply I got to that from her was: "You are taking advantage of me and my trust and disrespected me and Jehovah's Organisation! Please delete my number."

And that was the last contact from the lovely sister.

I text her one last time saying to stop being so childish and that I have done no such thing.. I simply asked questions to things that make absolutely no sense to me whatsoever and that none of them including herself can answer satisfactorily. In fact it's again complete madness to me. I also mentioned that I had in fact deleted her number a year ago and that it was her that initiated this conversation by texting me.

I know now that she will be running to the elders to report me and I would not be a bit surprised if I am contacted regarding this exchange. If so that will be the second time any of my 'loving brothers' would have made any contact with me in a year of vanishing from meetings.

The whole thing has left me feeling quite sick in my stomach. A feeling I have not had since my last meeting a year ago. :(

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Does GOD want us to be his friend or have a relationship with him?

by bruh2012 in

wt seems to teach both and or make them interchangable------we need to be jehovahs friend.

we need to have a relationship with him as children like a father.. even though there is no bible verses for having a relationship with god, jesus teaches us (was there anyone before jesus) to approach him as father not as some friend.

what bible verses "infer" that we have a relationship with god especially if thats what worshiping him means???.

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EdenOne I hope you don't mind I sent you a PM.

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World's Greatest Music: Beethoven's Ninth Symphony, voted # 1

by compound complex in

jw
friends

now playing at kdfc.com.

interesting that dvorak's symphony no.

9 was voted to the number two spot .

Dis-Member

Jwfacts..

In fact I have been listening to music very seriously since I was about 2 years old.. that was the first time I remember hearing Bach.. immediately followed by John Coltrane. Since that day my taste and need to hear both classical music and Jazz is equally split down the middle.

One of my grand mothers was a concert pianist who I was told accompanied Maria Callas.. and on the other side of the family were 5 great aunt's all in the same violin quintet. I seem to have inherited very strong musical genes and an extremely strong musical memory.

I started collecting myself at about 14 years of age and never stopped. All kinds of music was playing 24 hours a day in my home with each family member having their own genre.. and I myself have never stopped listening and playing. I ended up with my own modern Jazz quartet for about 9 years and have always taught music too. This spring I will form a new jazz quartet and be out playing every night.

I have converted all my music to digital format now.. mostly FLAC or OGG as these formats are a dozen times the quality of mp3's and I have them all on 3 terabyte drives so none of it takes up any space and cataloguing and organising it all using the computer is very easy.

I'm never without an mp3 player either and when home Youtube or my studio set up is constantly churning out something.

Music is like air for me. It's a language I instantly understood the first time I ever heard and related to very early.. even before I could speak.

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Does GOD want us to be his friend or have a relationship with him?

by bruh2012 in

wt seems to teach both and or make them interchangable------we need to be jehovahs friend.

we need to have a relationship with him as children like a father.. even though there is no bible verses for having a relationship with god, jesus teaches us (was there anyone before jesus) to approach him as father not as some friend.

what bible verses "infer" that we have a relationship with god especially if thats what worshiping him means???.

Dis-Member

error.

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World's Greatest Music: Beethoven's Ninth Symphony, voted # 1

by compound complex in

jw
friends

now playing at kdfc.com.

interesting that dvorak's symphony no.

9 was voted to the number two spot .

Dis-Member

Thank you for clarifying the thread Compound.. forgive me if I misunderstood.

I was weand on clssical music (Bach) and Jazz with the likes of Miles Davis, John Coltrane, Lester Young, MacOY Tyner.. some of whom were friends of my father. My tastes are extremely eclectic.

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talked to wt. conductor about sundays study

by nowwhat? in

i said i was concerned that they painted hezekiah as this champion of righteousness and how the article omitted when he paid tribute to assaria by looting the temple when he got scared.

and apparently he had an alliance with egypt, a pagan nation.

he said i was getting boged down with other references and missing the point.

Dis-Member

I was told by a posse of elders to basically stop all my research.. and I got an actual warning to NOT share what I found with any of the brothers or sisters in the congregation.

I told them that truth must be shared.. and then nailed them to the wall with a quiver of scriptures. i have not heard another word from them since.

The dishonesty of these people is just incredible.