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  An HONEST internet debunker of Watchtower who isn't an Ex

  by Terry in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4v8elawms60.

  this fellow is unique.

  he is a relatively young man who is in the adventist church.. he is smart, personable and intellectually honest.. he comes from a balanced attitude without rancor.. he is very very good at debunking the watchtower.

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  Dis-Member

  I have watched a few of these before. No. 3 is my current favourite.

  'The Watchtowers Biggest Lie'.

  http://youtu.be/m8Kw6lCEwHM?list=UUmFy5skgfYsQ36UG1isMNSg

  .. and No. 4

  How the Watchtower Keeps Members Loyal

  http://youtu.be/DZYw84TJ5zs?list=UUmFy5skgfYsQ36UG1isMNSg
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  how to survive a three day assembly?

  by purrpurr in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  hi i have to go to one of these soon.

  i find it difficult enough to sit through a meeting knowing what i now know.

  how to survive a whole three days???!!!

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  I don't know how you can even stand being in the midst of that great delusion faking it. I could not pretend for 3 minutes let alone 3 whole days.
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  Loneliness can have crippling effects , and the Watchtower knows how to use it..

  by defender of truth in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  "we are, as a rule, considerably diminished when disengaged from others.

  isolation may very often be the sum total of wretchedness, as the writer thomas carlyle put it.".

  "though note what he had to say about the two years he spent in isolation: its an awful thing, solitary.

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  The loneliest and most socially isolated years of my life were those spent in the organization, never out of it.
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  God listens and RESPONDS to your prayer if you know how to log on to Him! Here is the proof.

  by exWTslave in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  all my family members and friends (that include some elders) advised me to divorce my wife whose only joy was to pick up fight with me for everything i do, except my grand-mother who said: when you married her, you looked for only her good pointher regular pioneering despite having an opposing family.

  for being good, you will ultimately reap something far better through her.

  stick on to her.

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  Dis-Member

  I find it completely ridiculous and insulting that when someone comes on here and says that they have a direct hotline to God himself even hearing his voice and being given that new winter jacket they asked for.. or a new pair of shoes for the ministry, or having one's miserable dragon of a wife smile for the first time in 30 years and call it an act of God!
  
  Yet when others simply ask sincere, simple and basic questions on how this could be remotely possible you are immediately labelled as being a 'physical man' or 'not spiritual enough' or a persecutor of some kind and so fullfilling that other neat little scripture they always have on hand and do not hesitate in firing at you like a hot barb.
  
  The more I hear and read the delusional rantings of so called religions and spiritual people the more I get chronic indigestion and want to just vomit the entire concept of religion out of my soul for ever.
  
  I'm beginning to think that being religious and having such 'experiences' is akin to being borderline insane.
  
  Note to self: Stay clear of all threads that include "Proof of God in my life", "I found the way to Jesus", "Jesus lives in me", "If only you would let Jesus into your life".
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  Interesting re-thinking of Chinese Emperors.

  by fulltimestudent in

  1. social
  2. current

  somehow, i don't think mao would have approved:.

  http://english.cntv.cn/2014/08/09/vide1407515159186661.shtml.

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  Dis-Member

  The animated Kama Sutra was the possible inspiration for this I suspect.
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  Australian brother and sister country band

  by under the radar in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  a while back, there were some interesting posts about an award-winning australian brother and sister country music band.

  they had a music video out which showed "hot button" words from the watchtower as if cut out and pasted on a wall for a backdrop.

  does anyone know the name of this band and/or the title of the song i'm thinking of?

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  Nerd or not it sounds good. Not quite my kind of music but well put together and produced.
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  Song #29: "Walking in Integrity" plagiarizes a song that was inspired by demons!

  by Oubliette in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  [earlier today i posted this onanother thread about kingdom melodies.

  i decided to repost in its own thread because i am sure most of us don't know the facts about this song and would be very suprised.

  enjoy!].

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  Dis-Member

  This does not necessarily mean this song was plagiarized at all. Many songs sound just like other songs and use the same harmonies.. There are a million songs that share the same chordal harmonies right across different genres without any ripping off having taken place.

  Sorry but no one has copyright on harmony.

  The I–V–vi–IV chord progression for example is one of the most common and heavily used in modern music. e.g: C G Am F.
  It's used in all these songs.. Yet none of these artists are accusing each other of ripping the other off.

  List of songs containing the I–V–vi–IV progression

  "21 Guns"	Green Day	2009	vi–IV–I–V
  "'39"	Queen	1975	I–V–vi–IV
  "4th of July"	Amy Macdonald	2012	IV–I–V–vi; vi–IV–I–V
  "Africa" [ 2 ]	Toto	1983	vi–IV–I–V
  " Aïcha "	Khaled	1996	vi-IV-I-V
  "Air Hostess"	Busted	2004	I–V–vi–IV
  "All I Ever Wanted"	Basshunter	2008	iv–V–I–IV
  "All of Me"	John Legend	2013	vi–IV–I–V
  "All of the Stars"	Ed Sheeran	2014	I–V–vi–IV
  "All Too Well"	Taylor Swift	2012	I–V–iv–V
  "Already Gone"	Kelly Clarkson	2009	I–V–vi–IV
  "Always on My Mind"	Brenda Lee	1972	I–V–vi–IV
  "Another Girl, Another Planet"	The Only Ones	1978	I–V–vi–IV
  "Apologize (song)"	One Republic	2006	vi–IV-I-V
  "Ave Mary A"	P!nk	2009	I–V–vi–IV
  "Beautiful"	Akon feat. Colby O'Donis and Kardinal Offishall	2009	vi–IV–I–V
  "Breakeven"	The Script	2008	IV–I–V–vi
  "Black Widow"	Children of Bodom	1998	vi-IV-I-V
  "Bridge of Light"	P!nk	2011	I–V–vi–IV; vi–IV–I–V
  "Brighter Than the Sun"	Colbie Caillat	2011	vi–IV–I–V
  "Building a Mystery"	Sarah McLachlan	1997	vi–IV–I–V
  "Bullet"	Hollywood Undead	2011	I–V–vi–IV
  "California King Bed"	Rihanna	2011	I–V–vi–IV
  "Can You Feel the Love Tonight"	Elton John	1994	I–V–vi–IV
  "Cliche Love Song"	Basim	2014	I–V–vi–IV
  " Come Back... Be Here "	Taylor Swift	2012	I–V–vi–IV
  "Come Over"	Kenny Chesney	2012	vi–IV–I–V
  " Con te partirò "	Andrea Bocelli	1995	I–V–vi–IV
  "Cruise (song)"	Florida Georgia Line	2012	I–V–vi–IV
  "Dammit"	Blink-182	1997	I–V–vi–IV
  "Demons"	Imagine Dragons	2012	I–V–vi–IV
  "Don't Forget Me"	Red Hot Chili Peppers	2002	vi–IV–I–V
  "Don't Matter"	Akon	2006	I–V–vi–IV
  "Don't Stop Believin'"	Journey	1981	I–V–vi–IV
  "Don't Trust Me"	3OH!3	2008	vi–IV–I–V
  "Don't You Wanna Stay"	Jason Aldean and Kelly Clarkson	2010	I–V–vi–IV; vi–IV–I–V
  "Double Rainbow Song"	The Gregory Brothers	2010	vi–IV–I–V
  "Down"	Jay Sean feat. Lil Wayne	2009	IV–I–V–vi
  "Dragostea Din Tei"	O-Zone	2003	IV–I–V–vi
  "Drive By"	Train	2012	IV–I–V–vi; vi–IV–I–V
  "Dynamite"	Taio Cruz	2010	vi–IV–I–V
  "Electrical Storm"	U2	2002	vi–IV–I–V
  "Feeling This"	Blink-182	2003	I–V–vi–IV
  "For the First Time"	The Script	2010	I–V–vi–IV; vi–IV–I–V
  "Four Chords"	The Axis of Awesome	2011	I–V–vi–IV; vi–IV–I–V
  "From Yesterday"	Thirty Seconds to Mars	2005	I–V–vi–IV
  "F**kin' Perfect"	P!nk	2010	I–V–vi–IV
  "Give Me Everything"	Pitbull feat. Ne-yo, Afrojack, and Nayer	2011	vi–IV–I–V
  "Glycerine"	Bush	1994	I–V–vi–IV
  "Gomenasai"	t.A.T.u.	2006	vi–IV-I–V
  "Good Life"	OneRepublic	2010	vi–IV–I–V
  "Good Time"	Owl City and Carly Rae Jepsen	2012	IV–I–V–vi
  "Grenade"	Bruno Mars	2010	vi–IV–I–V
  "Hands"	Jewel	1998	vi–IV–I–V
  "Hair"	Lady Gaga	2011	I–V–vi–IV
  "Hall of Fame"	The Script feat. will.i.am	2012	vi–IV–I–V
  "Happy Ending"	Mika	2007	I–V–vi–IV
  "Head Over Feet"	Alanis Morissette	1996	I–V–vi–IV
  "Heart Attack"	Demi Lovato	2013	IV–I–V–vi
  "Hearts of Olden Glory"	Runrig	1987	vi–IV–I–V
  "Hey Brother"	Avicii	2013	vi–IV–I–V
  "Hide and Seek"	Imogen Heap	2005	I–V–vi–IV
  "Higher Love"	Steve Winwood	1986	IV–I–V–vi
  "Home"	Phillip Phillips	2012	IV–I–V–vi; vi–IV–I–V
  "Hurt"	Nine Inch Nails	1995	vi–IV–I–V
  "Hurt"	Johnny Cash	2003	vi–IV–I–V
  "I Hope You Dance"	Lee Ann Womack	2000	vi–IV–I–V
  "I Just Had Sex"	The Lonely Island feat. Akon	2011	vi–IV–I–V
  "I Was Here"	Beyoncé	2011	vi–IV–I–V
  "If I Were a Boy"	Beyoncé	2008	vi–IV–I–V
  "If I Lose Myself"	OneRepublic vs Alesso	2013	I–V–vi–IV
  "If We Ever Meet Again"	Timbaland feat. Katy Perry	2010	I–V–vi–IV
  "I'm Yours"	Jason Mraz	2008	I–V–vi–IV
  " In My Head "	Jason Derülo	2009	vi–IV–I–V
  "International Love"	Pitbull feat. Chris Brown	2011	vi–IV–I–V
  "Jack Sparrow"	The Lonely Island feat. Michael Bolton	2011	vi–IV–I–V
  "Just a Dream"	Nelly	2010	vi–IV–I–V
  "Kaze wa Fuiteiru"	AKB48	2011	vi–IV–I–V
  "Let Her Go"	Passenger	2013	IV–I–V–vi
  "Let It Be"	The Beatles	1970	I–V–vi–IV
  "Let It Go	Idina Menzel	2013	I–V–VI–iv
  "Little Baby Nothing"	Manic Street Preachers	1992	I–V–vi–IV
  "Little Talks"	Of Monsters and Men	2011	vi–IV–I–V
  "Love Me"	Justin Bieber	2009	vi–IV–I–V
  "Love the Way You Lie"	Eminem feat. Rihanna	2010	vi–IV–I–V
  "Mad World"	Tears for Fears	1982	vi–IV–I–V
  "Marilyn Monroe"	Nicki Minaj	2012	vi–IV–I–V
  "Miracle"	Cascada	2004	vi–IV–I–V
  "Motorcycle Emptiness"	Manic Street Preachers	1992	I–V–vi–IV
  "Não Me Toca"	Anselmo Ralph	2012	vi–IV–I–V
  "No One"	Alicia Keys	2007	I–V–vi–IV
  "No Woman, No Cry"	Bob Marley	1974	I–V–vi–IV
  "Nobody's Perfect"	Miley Cyrus	2007	vi–IV–I–V
  "Not Afraid"	Eminem	2010	vi–IV–I–V
  "Numb"	Linkin Park	2003	vi–IV–I–V
  "On the Floor"	Jennifer Lopez feat. Pitbull	2011	vi–IV–I–V
  "Once in a Lifetime"	Gregorian	1991	I–V–vi–IV
  "One of Us	Joan Osborne	1995	vi–IV–I–V
  "Only Teardrops"	Emmelie de Forest	2013	vi–IV–I–V
  "Otherside"	Red Hot Chili Peppers	2000	vi–IV–I–V
  "Paparazzi"	Lady Gaga	2009	I–V–vi–IV
  "Paradise"	Coldplay	2011	vi–IV–I–V
  "Peace of Mind"	Boston	1977	vi–IV–I–V
  "Pieces"	Sum 41	2005	vi–IV–I–V
  "Poker Face"	Lady Gaga	2008	vi–IV–I–V
  "Pork and Beans"	Weezer	2008	I–V–vi–IV
  "Quelqu'un m'a dit"	Carla Bruni	2003	I–V–vi–IV
  "Ready or Not"	Bridgit Mendler	2012	vi–IV–I–V
  "Replay"	Iyaz	2009	vi–IV–I–V
  "Rise"	McClain Sisters	2012	vi–IV–I–V
  "Roses Are Red"	Aqua	1996	vi–IV–I–V
  "Run"	Snow Patrol	2004	I–V–vi–IV
  "San Francisco (Be Sure to Wear Flowers in Your Hair)"	Scott McKenzie	1967	vi–IV–I–V
  "Save Tonight"	Eagle Eye Cherry	1997	vi–IV–I–V
  "Say Something"	A Great Big World	2013	vi–IV–I–V
  "Scenic World"	Beirut	2006	I–V–vi–IV
  "Science & Faith"	The Script	2011	vi–IV–I–V
  "Self Esteem"	The Offspring	1994	vi–IV–I–V
  "Six Degrees of Separation"	The Script	2012	vi–IV–I–V
  "Skyscraper"	Demi Lovato	2011	vi–IV–I–V
  "Snow (Hey Oh)"	Red Hot Chili Peppers	2006	I–V–vi–IV; vi–IV–I–V
  "Song for Zula"	Phosphorescent	2013	I–V–vi–IV
  "Someone Like You"	Adele	2011	I–V–vi–IV
  "So Lonely"	The Police	1978	I–V–vi–IV
  "Soul To Squeeze"	Red Hot Chili Peppers	2001	vi–IV–I–V
  "Sparks Fly"	Taylor Swift	2011	vi–IV–I–V
  "Stakkels Jim"	Gasolin	1974	I–V–vi–IV
  "Stand"	Rascal Flatts	2007	vi–IV–I–V
  "Stronger (What Doesn't Kill You)"	Kelly Clarkson	2012	vi–IV–I–V
  "Suteki Da Ne"	RIKKI	2001	I–V–vi–IV
  "Take Me Home, Country Roads"	John Denver	1971	I–V–vi–IV
  "Tears of the Dragon"	Bruce Dickinson	1994	vi–IV–I–V
  "That Was a Crazy Game of Poker"	O.A.R.	1997	vi–I–V–IV
  "The Edge of Glory"	Lady Gaga	2011	I–V–vi–IV
  "The Island"	Pendulum	2010	vi–IV–I–V
  "The Kids Aren't Alright"	The Offspring	1999	vi–IV–I–V
  "The Lazy Song"	Bruno Mars	2011	I–V–vi–IV
  "The Man Who Can't Be Moved"	The Script	2008	vi–IV–I–V
  "The Rock Show"	Blink-182	2001	I–V–vi–IV; vi–IV–I–V
  "The Scientist"	Coldplay	2002	vi–IV–I–V
  "This Is Me"	Demi Lovato and Joe Jonas	2008	vi–IV–I–V
  "This Is My Life"	Gasolin	1976	I–V–vi–IV
  "Too Cool"	Meaghan Jette Martin	2008	vi–IV–I–V
  "Tuesday's Gone"	Lynyrd Skynyrd	1973	I–V–vi–IV
  "Try"	P!nk	2012	IV–I–V–vi; vi–IV–I–V
  "U + Ur Hand"	P!nk	2006	vi–IV–I–V
  "Umbrella"	Rihanna	2007	IV–I-V-vi
  "Unconditionally"	Katy Perry	2013	vi–IV–I–V
  "Under the Bridge"	Red Hot Chili Peppers	1992	I–V–vi–IV
  "Wake Me Up"	Avicii feat. Aloe Blacc	2013	vi–IV–I–V
  "Wagon Wheel"	Old Crow Medicine Show	2004	I–V–vi–IV
  "Walks Like Rihanna"	The Wanted	2013	I–V–vi–IV
  "We Are Never Getting Back Together"	Taylor Swift	2012	I–V–vi–IV
  "We Found Love"	Rihanna feat. Calvin Harris	2011	vi–IV–I–V
  "What's My Age Again?"	Blink-182	1999	I–V–vi–IV
  "What I Go to School For"	Busted	2003	I–V–vi–IV
  "When Can I See You Again?"	Owl City	2012	I–V–vi–IV
  "Whenever, Wherever"	Shakira	2001	vi-IV-I-V
  "When I Come Around"	Green Day	1993	I–V–vi–IV
  "Where is the Love?"	The Black Eyed Peas	2003	I–V–vi–IV
  "Wherever You Will Go"	The Calling	2001	I–V–vi–IV
  "Whiskey Girl"	Toby Keith	2003	I–V–vi–IV
  "Whistle"	Flo Rida	2012	vi–IV–I–V
  "Who You Are"	Jessie J	2011	vi–IV–I–V
  "With or Without You"	U2	1987	I–V–vi–IV
  "Wrecking Ball"	Miley Cyrus	2013	I–V–vi–IV
  "You're Not Sorry"	Taylor Swift	2008	vi–IV–I–V
  "Zombie"	The Cranberries	1994	vi–IV–I–V
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  Australian brother and sister country band

  by under the radar in

  1. jw
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  a while back, there were some interesting posts about an award-winning australian brother and sister country music band.

  they had a music video out which showed "hot button" words from the watchtower as if cut out and pasted on a wall for a backdrop.

  does anyone know the name of this band and/or the title of the song i'm thinking of?

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  Dis-Member

  He still looks like a nerd..
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  just what am I supposed to believe now??

  by purrpurr in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  while i'm glad i found this site, it has also crumbled to bits everything i've believed in my whole life.

  i feel like the certainty, magic and wonder has gone out of my life.

  this has left a huge hole in my soul.

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  Crazy feeling right? I am in a similar position. But I have come to the conclusion that if I can not find God by myself without all the artificial crutches and ridiculous false trappings that a religion heaps on top of you then maybe he's just not findable at all.

  I am only interested in the real God. Not the thing created by men that they call and define as God.
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  Israel's Defense

  by Paris in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  this is interesting.

  lots of posts praising and defending palestinians .

  i have yet to see one post from anyone defending israel.

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  Palestinian deaths exceed 1,400.

  56 soldiers and 3 civilians on Israeli side.

  Oh yes that really looks like self defense.