St G: I couldn't agree more if I tried.
quellycat: Good stuff, you can't beat having a bit of confidence in your hands. Funny how kids who can defend themselves usually don't have to do so very often.
LucidChimp
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Getting bullied in school? Pray... and stuff. That'll fix it for sure
by LucidChimp ina jdub who is close to me was telling me about the talk at their meeting this sunday.. some old git (visiting speaker) related a story about his grandson who was getting bullied in school.
the advice that was given to the boy was "pray to jehovah about it"... not "let's go talk to your teachers", or even "pass me my machete" (this is manchester, sue me).
nope - this poor lad was left to talk about his problems with, well let's face it, himself.. i was outraged at this and moaned for a while (i do that sometimes - often), only to hear the saddest part later.. the obviously-damaged-and-impaired-by-his-upbringing kid does pray about it, long and hard.
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Fallacies about Faith
by tec inpeace to you!.
this thread is about false things (some) atheists think theists believe.
this is not a thread about false things that atheists think about theists.
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LucidChimp
"Hey Tammy, could you please clarify what you meant by death being responsible not god?"
I agree with zound. You said:
"Death. Not the scythe and hood guy... but the entity, yes. The last enemy."
and
"God did not kill them... He did allow Death to pass over Egypt"
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"The debt that was owed to death you mean?
Chirst did pay that... but God is not death."
Kind of sounds like a personification... An entity who can be owed something and who can "pass over" Egypt killing kids? (I'm happy to be corrected if you'll clarify?)
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Getting bullied in school? Pray... and stuff. That'll fix it for sure
by LucidChimp ina jdub who is close to me was telling me about the talk at their meeting this sunday.. some old git (visiting speaker) related a story about his grandson who was getting bullied in school.
the advice that was given to the boy was "pray to jehovah about it"... not "let's go talk to your teachers", or even "pass me my machete" (this is manchester, sue me).
nope - this poor lad was left to talk about his problems with, well let's face it, himself.. i was outraged at this and moaned for a while (i do that sometimes - often), only to hear the saddest part later.. the obviously-damaged-and-impaired-by-his-upbringing kid does pray about it, long and hard.
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LucidChimp
A Jdub who is close to me was telling me about the talk at their meeting this Sunday.
Some old git (visiting speaker) related a story about his grandson who was getting bullied in school. The advice that was given to the boy was "pray to Jehovah about it"... Not "let's go talk to your teachers", or even "pass me my machete" (this is Manchester, sue me). Nope - this poor lad was left to talk about his problems with, well let's face it, himself.
I was outraged at this and moaned for a while (I do that sometimes - often), only to hear the saddest part later.
The obviously-damaged-and-impaired-by-his-upbringing kid does pray about it, long and hard. Furthermore, when he goes to school the next day he marches right up to the bully and says something along the lines of "you're finished, I told Jehovah about you and He's going to sort you out proppa".
And the bully never bothered him again... even though they went to the same secondary school.
The End.
This is the advice children are getting from the platform... Getting beat up in school? Tell God. (They really don't seem to enjoy telling kids to report abuse in any form)
Obviously the real reason the bully left him alone is because he thought the kid was crazy... Or he thought Jehovah was a Mexican gangster.
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i wish more churches would preach truth like this
by unstopableravens inhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cncehcvrvgq.
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LucidChimp
Meh - I just copy pasted the picture from google... If you take issue with the first line, how about this = I created man and woman with inbuilt natural inclinations I would later call sin.
*edited [didn't see new posts]
Also - what poppers said - "They sinned afterward because they were set up to sin, to sin without understanding the consequences. What's the point in being given free will and then being punished for exercizing it and then condemning everyone who comes after them for a sin they weren't responsible for?"
Preach poppers... TESTIFY!
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i wish more churches would preach truth like this
by unstopableravens inhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cncehcvrvgq.
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LucidChimp
How's this?
Here he's not begging, just explaining how stupid he is.
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i wish more churches would preach truth like this
by unstopableravens inhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cncehcvrvgq.
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LucidChimp
"Why did it hurt?"
All of the facepalming.
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i wish more churches would preach truth like this
by unstopableravens inhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cncehcvrvgq.
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LucidChimp
Wow... Reading this thread just hurt my face.
In answer to the thread title - I wish less would.
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Millions die in Natural disasters - God is doing nothing. Do I adopt Anthropomorphism to him?
by KateWild ini do not think god is a'morphic.
god is not human, so hence he does not possess human characteristics, to know god better and to understand him better i study science.
there has been a new discovery of strange signals picked up from black holes and distant supernovae suggest there's more to space-time than einstein believed.
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LucidChimp
How lovely, we three all agree that it doesn't matter.
Now I'm curious if you've heard of
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Confirmation_bias
It would be more honest to say that he "may" have believed "at some point" in "some sort" of god... Or maybe not.
Otherwise it might look like you were just using this argument as a "red herring".
Just a thought.
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Millions die in Natural disasters - God is doing nothing. Do I adopt Anthropomorphism to him?
by KateWild ini do not think god is a'morphic.
god is not human, so hence he does not possess human characteristics, to know god better and to understand him better i study science.
there has been a new discovery of strange signals picked up from black holes and distant supernovae suggest there's more to space-time than einstein believed.
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LucidChimp
I'm curious why it matters what Einstein believed about god?
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Where else is there to go?
by snare&racket inwhen i left the jw's, close friends and some elders discussed my desicion with me,without fail they all concluded the same thing.... "but where else is there to go?!".
at the time, the question just confused me, i could not see why it confused me or the very telling nature of such a comment.
i never thought that once.. firstly, this indicates that many jw's remain jw's simply because of this tunnel vision perspective... everything in their periphery is valueless, but the wt on which they focus is everthing.
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LucidChimp
I've been asked this exact question by two dubs I spoke to... Best I could do at the time was "get out of her my people" and "flee to the mudachuffin' mountains". [Which fell kind of flat - they both knew I don't believe in the bible]
Great post (I think all of the varied "kinds" of Jdub fall under two Species: those who will leave for reasons pertaining to corruption and doctrine - and those who will not... I'm willing to bet you only hear this question from those who will not).
