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  The Ultimate APOSTATE SURVEY!!! Check it out!! please respond!! ^_^

  by NaruNaruChan in

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  ok, we all get them in the mail, but here's one geared towards us that i just wrote up.

  feel free to add to it, as i'd love for it to go around a bit ^_^ .

  copy and paste this into your response box because i just wrote it and i figure whattheheck, this could be good!!!

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  asleif_dufansdottir

  1. What is your name? Liz
  2. Where were you born? Missouri
  3. Were u raised as a JW? No
  4. If you converted to JW later in life, why? Hubby became one and I got tired of arguing
  5. When were you baptized a JW? ummm...88 or 89?
  6. When were you disfellowshipped, or disassociated, and for what? Walked away
  7. Are you Married? Yes
  8. Did you ever pioneer/aux pioneer? How long? Yeah, pioneered less than a year
  9. If you are Dfed or D A ed, do any active witnesses still talk to you in secret? I still get emailed jokes from one sister
  10. Which teachings of the WTBTS do you disagree with the most? Women's submission, and basically all of it
  11. Which Teachings of the WTBTS do you agree with still? NOTHING
  12. If you could take any of it back, would u? That's a hard one...it made me what I am today and I like that, I'd be afraid to change that.
  13. What was your worst experience at the door in the field service? Elderly Catholic lady who had been a nice return visit bursting into tears and saying, "Why can't you just leave me alone?" I felt like crap.
  14. What was your best experience in field service? THis is kind of a long story - I was out with a car group with a pioneer couple who were friends of mine. The sister got out to take a door (this was in rurals). As she shut the car door, a huge Rottweiler came around the house and stood there looking at her...she was terrified, begging her husband to get out and help her. He refused to get out of the car and she was backed up against her car door, trapped. Finally I just got out, walked around the car, looked at the dog and said, "Awww, you're a good little pupper, aren't you???" and smiled at him. He dissolved into wiggles, wagging his tail and licking me (he hadn't been mean at all, he was just looking at her to see if she would play and none of the rest of the car group realized it!). The rest of the car group thought I was a miracle worker (they just didn't know anything about dogs). I thought it was the funniest damn thing I ever saw. Mr. Pioneer/Elder and the other Elder in the car were totally shown up as cowards. It was GREAT.
  15. What was the last memorial u attended? ummm early 90's?
  16. What is one thing you wish you could say now that your eyes have been opened to an active witness? this religion is the biggest bunch of lies I've ever come across
  17. Did you have to go through therapy after leaving? no
  18. how did you deprogram yourself from WT thinking? We were lucky, we just gradually went back to being 'ourselves' again (but stronger)
  19. Has anyone else quit the religion because you left? dunno, no contact with old hall
  20. What’s the craziest thing you ever heard at the kingdom hall? the elder who told me (literally) to "keep your mouth shut" about something I knew about his wife
  21. Have you spoken to any witnesses who came to your door after you were Dfed about what you know now? just that we didn't believe it anymore
  22. What teachings do you think the society should throw out? ALL OF IT
  23. What did you do to your literature after you quit? sent it off to an apostate group
  24. Have you been to an APOSTAFEST, and was it fun? not yet
  25. Did you go sex crazy when you left? not anymore than i was already
  26. Did you dye your hair, get a tattoo, or pierce yourself? not yet, not yet, yep
  27. Have you picketed a convention yet, or will you? probably not, not worth the effort
  28. Do you have any regrets? not really
  29. Do you think you will ever recover fully? it will always have affected me
  30. Would you ever go back? Are you kidding? Heck, I wouldn't even be a Christian again!
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  At what age did you join the Witnesses?

  by JH in

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  at what age would a person have to be to join the witnesses and not suffer too much?.

  if they are children, it robs their youth.. if they join in the teens, they won't get a decent education.. if they join at 20 years old, they will have to marry a witness.. if they join at 30, i guess that would be less destructive because they already are married, have children, have a house, an education and a job.. at what age did you join, and how did it affect you?

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  asleif_dufansdottir

  Baptised at 26 (hubby got baptised first, I gave up and joined later). Both of us became in active about age 30, didn't discuss religion at all til about 4? years ago (age 36) when we started admitting to each other how much we did not believe it anymore. Have been full-blown apostates (not even Christians anymore, got burnt that bad) for the past 3 or so years.
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  Do You Ever Think Of This While Driving?

  by rocketman in

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  asleif_dufansdottir

  The minute that I get into that "territory", I get a shitty feeling in my gut and I regret with the very heart of me that I ever succumbed to such bullshit.

  (sigh) Me, too.
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  What Were You Told That You Had To Work on By The Elders?

  by minimus in

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  the elders feel obliged to have you work on at least, something.

  what did they tell you?

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  asleif_dufansdottir

  Be more submissive.

  Be more submissive.

  Be more submissive.

  I'm a slow learner Eventually I just said fuquit
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  Wacko Talks

  by gitasatsangha in

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  share one of the odder/funnier talks you've heard (where the manuscript went out the window, along with any degree of decorum, preferably).

  one time a brother had a 15 minute part and he spoke very calmly and relaxed.

  he smiled all the time, but the part seemed aimless.

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  asleif_dufansdottir

  The wierdest was a CO who was giving a talk during his visit...he spent (I swear) 10 minutes building up this joke to the punchline..."don't take a fence" ("don't take offense")...and the wierdest part of it was that 'taking offense' had nothing to do with the subject of his talk! When he finished, he stopped for a second, like he'd told the wrong joke (after it took 10 minutes!), because it hit him then, I guess, that it had nothing to do with the subject of the talk. He told lots of marginally funny kinda pointless jokes that rambled on to a sort-of conclusion, though, so I'm not really sure he told the wrong joke. The congregation kinda looked at each other like..."Did everybody else understand how that went with the talk???"

  I've never forgotten it, though.
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  What happens to old worn out Kingdom Halls?

  by gitasatsangha in

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  seems like there are differnet tier's of kindgom halls.

  the old hall i went too was orginally supposed to be large house, iirc.

  when our congregation outgrew it, it was sold to a company next door that build coffins and caskets.

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  asleif_dufansdottir

  Ours was of the #5 variety...I don't know if it was originally built as a hall or something else. The embarrassment of the circuit...with blue carpeting and gold pews right out of the 70's...the congregation was too cheap to do a remodel (and get rid of windows), though I heard they *finally* got new carpet and maybe even chairs in the mid 90's. It was a small rural hall and it was hysterical to watch elder's wives from the big city, whose husband was there to give a talk, walk in, look around and drop their jaws...they couldn't believe the CO or Society or somebody didn't force the elders to remodel. It was pretty awful (the parking lot wasn't paved either!)

  Here's something I was wondering just tonight...who gets the money if the hall is closed up and sold? The congregation members paid for the individual halls themselves, right? So who gets the $ if, for instance, the Society closes the hall up (as I heard they did every once in a while...in a single weekend everything was out and off of it that would declare it a KH, and the building and fixtures sold, the cong members sent off to other halls)? I'm guessing, of course, that the Society pockets the $ for the sale of everything, even though the congregation members paid for it. Am I right?
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  Rabbi Responds to Jehovah's Witnesses

  by DevonMcBride in

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  the below message was e-mailed to a friend of mine who then sent it to me.

  devon

  on the subject of jehovah's witnesses: they don't visit us anymore, they used to come by regularly.

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  asleif_dufansdottir

  And she's blithely passing that smugness onto her children.

  You can call it smugness, I prefer to think of it as pride in their heritage and determination to continue their own religious beliefs despite the overwhelmingly Christian culture we live in, where it is assumed that their religion is wrong.

  Translations are inherently inferior to understanding the original language. You always lose something in the translation, no matter how minor (one reason the Jews always insisted on their children learning to read Hebrew throughout the centuries of the diaspora). BTW, Hebrew isn't a dead language...it's always been the "liturgial" language of the Jews, and is now the official language of Israel (spoken & written).
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  Rabbi Responds to Jehovah's Witnesses

  by DevonMcBride in

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  the below message was e-mailed to a friend of mine who then sent it to me.

  devon

  on the subject of jehovah's witnesses: they don't visit us anymore, they used to come by regularly.

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  asleif_dufansdottir

  I don't like the dubbies either but she was not polite at all. As far as I read, the jw's didn't say anything arrogant or superior to her

  What, you don't consider the assumption that they (the JWs) had a better understanding of the Hebrew scriptures than a Rabbi (woman though she is ), even though she and her family can read the original language and they can't, to be arrogant? The assumption that Jews don't understand the 'whole' Bible, because they only have the first half, and that it's really Christians who understand it?? How about the assumption that "God's Chosen People" are wrong about God? I think all these assumptions are show a large amount of arrogance and superiority...from a whole lot of Christians, not just JWs.

  How about the assumption that all JWs make that every householder should drop whatever they happen to be doing at the moment and be pathetically grateful that the JWs are doing such "important preaching work" .

  I think she had every right to put them in their place, in her own home. I wish more people would, rather than being afraid of being "impolite." (I think it's impolite to do the religious equivalent of telemarketing, but that doesn't stop JWs)
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  Please help me save my marriage - URGENT

  by happyout in

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  i am fighting to save my marriage, and the person i seem to be fighting against is my husband.

  a little background, we had a rough time dating, because he had a hard time being faithful.

  i caught him cheating three times, and left him, but he kept asking for forgiveness, promising to change, and i bought into it.

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  asleif_dufansdottir

  you know dam right its better to stay together unless he is going out on you and can't keep his carrot in his pants

  Wrong. There are many other ways to be an abusive spouse other than have sex with other people. The idea that the only reason to get a divorce is sexual infidelity is a JW one.
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  Rabbi Responds to Jehovah's Witnesses

  by DevonMcBride in

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  2. friends

  the below message was e-mailed to a friend of mine who then sent it to me.

  devon

  on the subject of jehovah's witnesses: they don't visit us anymore, they used to come by regularly.

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  asleif_dufansdottir

  Sweet.

  I used to be a secretary for a Chassidic synagogue. Sure gives a person a new perspective on the Bible and Christianity! Love how she pointed out the arrogance of (any) Christian missionaries. Wish more people would do stuff like that.