So are all of the JWD Middle Eastern and military scholars in favor of the UN lifting the santions against Iraq or leaving them in place?
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WoMD ... so where are they?
by Simon innow, the war is over, the weapons were not used and of course have not been found.. how threatening could they be if they did not even use them when being invaded by a massive force (of the countries they hate)?!
perhaps, as many suspect, they didn't use them because they didn't have them?.
now we're being told that we'll have to be patient and give them time to find them.
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What kind of JW would it take to defend his/her faith amongst apostates?
by be wise inim thinking only a brain-dead one!
maybe the whipper snapper shows off to his/her jw friends, thinking they're so strong and superior because it doesnt affect their faith in god.
(only a jw this small minded would even bother and would fail to see even some of the truth in what x-jws say.
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It takes a believer that must be right. Their debate is not the interest in finding out "if" they are right. Because for them even if what they currently hold as the truth is proven false it still must be right. Otherwise, why else would the Watchtower have published it? People in all walks of life fall for propaganda that suits their prejudices. It is not just the JW's that suffer from not being able to face the reality of false teachings. Even when it is plainly shown that the material is bunk they still slide into debating the merit of the spirit of the message.
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Oroborus is YoYoMama?????
by bluesapphire insimon, i think he's back.
did you let him back?
please get rid of him again.
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Jayson
So what Pris?
Because he asked questions and gave little info about himself, some quickly came to the conclusion that he was a troll. Minimus has been on this board for almost a year, and over that time he has given information about himself (and his family).
Nobody has to do anything here that they do not want to. Simon makes sure of that. If you choose to give info that's a choice. Minimus talks of a "mob menatality" of JWD posters, that's crap. Period.
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Did People In The "Truth" Have Better Marriages Than Those In The "World"?
by minimus in"marry only in the lord"...... if you marry outside the "truth", your marriage "will be doomed"...... what was your experience regarding a mutual witness marriage?
was it all that it was cracked up to be???
did you know of others that had a great marriage because theywere witnesses?
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Jayson
IMHO a lot of young JW's get married to have sex; And, that spells disaster.
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Oroborus is YoYoMama?????
by bluesapphire insimon, i think he's back.
did you let him back?
please get rid of him again.
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Jayson
Minimus I can't see how you feel you are a troll here. I think that you just strait up don't get it.
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Yesterday was my B-day, feeling sorry for myself
by bittersweet inok, so i'm feeling a little sorry for myself.
pity party happening here.. so yesterday was my birthday, and until i went to work at 4 pm, not a single birthday wish came my way ( actually, i did get a couple birthday wishes from web sites i had joined, lol ).
most of my family is jw.
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Jayson
(((Happy Birthday)))
Now go get drunk and have sex!
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Oroborus is YoYoMama?????
by bluesapphire insimon, i think he's back.
did you let him back?
please get rid of him again.
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Jayson
if you think my comments were so terrible, geez, I'm sorry. I said nothing against this Oroburus. My comment pertained to assuming things and how it can lead to harm or unnecessary distress. Would you feel it is acceptable to post as a subject, "Jayson is YoYoMama? Now, let's see who's exploiting my comments.
I never said your comments are terrible. I said you were being shallow and exploiting this thread. This is why;
What bothers me is the mob mentality that can exist here when a person is "different". I think it's a shame that a person HAS to provide personal information about himself so as to be believed. What is it? Everyone is a troll until proven not guilty
You are totally entitled to your opinion. You make your fluffy mental masterbation comment/threads and heck maybe they hook people. (Couse they do tune into your threads) But some things are serious. Maybe you have not gone through what Essie is going through with her kid. If you did you would not be so shallow about why so many people like me get very pissy about Ed and his ilk making BS self centered comments. And if someone accused me of trolling and I was, I would change my thread to correct it or, stand by my guns I could deal with someone accusing me of being someone else cause Minimus as um, I am who I am. And I know that would come out in the end. The mob mentality exists in the WT. What exists here are like minds and there is a difference. If a "different" view means that I have to sit here and watch someone walk all over another person unjustly then the powers that be will have to boot me off of JWD. I watched to much of that "indifference" with the JW's. I won't do it here or anywhere ever again. And I'm glad others won't either. If you consider that "mob mentality" then I guess we have a lot of disagreeing to do
Signed with love to Minimus,
Jayson
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Am I cheating?
by Jayson inmy spouce is the one with the jw past not me.
i just married into this strange voyage and quest for god that her family is on.
she is dfted and glad to be rid of the burden.
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Spanner as I said
When I talk here at JWD or read a book that is in relation to Jehovah Witnesses she feels like I am cheating on her. She feels like I am talking with her X.
The cult is the X. And no it's not off-hand. She wishes that the cult never existed. She wished she never baptized herself and promised her soul to the WT. Which I understand. But, it does not just effect her. Every time they write or call, even any contact brings it all back. And it does effect me as well as the children. JW's don't cause pain in a vacume. I study them because someday the kids will want to know about their family. And I want to be ready. More ready than I was in years past. Everytme they try to contact us they have less effect. And the reason is that we are educating ourselves about their tactics and their motives. The JW's band together to manipulate us. We need to band together to be there for and to protect one another.
Francois how I wish I would have recorded the conversations. The final one where the law was laid down imparticular. You would have enjoyed it.
Thanks BuleS. It's hard. If I had to choose despite my love for all you guys I would not continue to post here of read about the cult/s if it hurts her. I love her very much. But, I don't think that they will just go away. I have learned to be ever vigil where they are concerned. And it is quite refreshing to be able to talk to other people and remind myself that people all over are going through this and that I am not alone.
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Oroborus is YoYoMama?????
by bluesapphire insimon, i think he's back.
did you let him back?
please get rid of him again.
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Jayson
I'm really sorry everyone
You admitted that you were wrong and said you are sorry. Ed stood his ground and I think has pretty tough skin. (And Ice for blood) so what is the biggy? He still said hurtful cold hearted things to Essie. That was not cool That he is not someone else who used to post crap does not make me think more of him. That Farkel respects him means less.
You are still cool in my book girl. And I am sure that I will get caught with my head up my rear and put my foot in my mouth with some of what I say around here. None here are perfect.
The only person that I see exploiting this situation and thread is Minimus. Very shallow of you old man.
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Am I cheating?
by Jayson inmy spouce is the one with the jw past not me.
i just married into this strange voyage and quest for god that her family is on.
she is dfted and glad to be rid of the burden.
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My spouce is the one with the JW past not me. I just married into this strange voyage and quest for god that her family is on. She is dfted and glad to be rid of the burden. Her family kept interfearing in our lives and that intensified with children. I spent years trying honestly to understand the JW point of view, from their customs, and their rules. (It's the sociologist in me.) But they lied, covered up the truth, and worked as a team to manipulate me. They betrayed my trust. In the begining my wife aided them. I don't think she knew any better. Then about a year and a half ago I started reading the books that tell what the Jehovah Witnesses really are all about, their history and how there is zero consistancy in what they believe accept that they are right and the world is wrong. (That everything they have believed in the past they discard including all former leader/prophets in the last 100 years is a minor inconvienice.) I shared this with my wife and she was shocked to realize that is really is all a sham; and when I said to my in laws that the religion is not only unwelcome in my house but around me, my wife, and my children as well as this shunning baloney it ends now, I was told I am violating their 1st Amendment rights. That they are free to do whatever they want. I am not the boss of them.
My house is not a democracy and they have no "rights" in my house. They are guests, as I am in their house. Anyway I have been learning about cults, mindcontrol, religion (the philosophy of relgion that is) and focusing in on the JW's. My wife says that she feels that she divorced the Jehovah Witnesses and her family still in it. And, When I talk here at JWD or read a book that is in relation to Jehovah Witnesses she feels like I am cheating on her. She feels like I am talking with her X.
She would like it if I just never came back here and burned all my books on the JW's relgions and cults in general. (It would be a big fire)
I don't have a problem with leaving her out of all of this. I don't blame her a bit, she has been through hell. She has the common sense to just avoid a storm where as I stupidly sail right into it. So therefore often I take her lead. But isn't cheating a bit drastic of a parady?