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  The kind of Man GWBush is.

  by Yerusalyim in

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  at walter reed medical center in washington dc recently the sergeant major of the army, jack tilley, was with a group of people visiting the wounded soldiers.

  he saw a special forces soldier who had lost his right hand and suffered severe wounds of his face and side of his body.

  the sma wanted to honor him and show him respect without offending, but what can you say or do in such a situation that will encourage and uplift?

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  Realist realist realist. U R always so polite to me. <sigh>

  In your lifetime you will either see a radical EU change in it's generous welfare social system or it's total collapse. Time will tell. American social welfare is very productive when admisistered correctly and responsibly. In California one out of four people either are getting welfare they are not entitled to or not getting what they should. That is just outragous. But Gray is still Gov. of that state. Go figure. I believe that the average [western] European is more educated than the average American. However, I think that the inability to face the ideological factors that seperate are as vast as the ocean. In fact I don't think we have much in common any more. It's true that some American's (a minority) share the desire to try the "third way" of socialism along with the EU. It will fail for the same reasons that trickle down ecomonics fail. The US will never stand for a world tax so long as Communists and Tyrants get equal treatment in the UN.

  Tricky down econ- fails because it assumes that people who can take care of themselves will when given reasonable opportunity. This is false people are lazy.

  Socialism fails because it holds back those who want to over perform and they are the ones who spur on an economy. They can't do what they do and the economies stall then socialism can't meet it's promises to the people. Oh ya and corruption.

  As long as there are nation-states and ideology these two things along with the entire ideological continumm (I've explained that term before) will continue. The US will dominate for our lifetime and that's life. The Middle East will improve but not see peace in our lifetime. China will be the new force in the 21st century. Western Europe will take it's place as second and third rate powers indignantly.

  All my opinion off the top of my head. btw have you ever read "The Ten Things You Can't Say In America?" You'd like it realist.
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  So, what REALLY happened on September 11, a.k.a. the unknowns...???

  by reporter in

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  it's getting on to almost two years since the events of september 11, and it is striking how little we know about what happened: .

  we don't know the real names of any of the hijackers.. we don't know what countries they came from.. we don't know who planned and organized the terrorism.. we don't know who financed it.. we have no idea what actually happened at the pentagon (but i know a boeing 757 didn't go through this hole).

  normal video tapes of and from the pentagon building, which should have shown what happened, have never been released (except for one, which poses more questions than it answers).

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  You are welcome seawolf. I have to admit making crackpot theroies is much more fun than reading 600 pages of "The Threatening Storm." It also shows how gullabile sheeple are. Most of the 9/11 bush did it with the help of aliens to gain world dominating power make about as much sense as JW asnooz magazines & the world is about to end. It is easier to believe the "un-named & un-known & un-provable source" than to accept things for what they are. Much more titilating too.
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  WoMD ... so where are they?

  by Simon in

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  now, the war is over, the weapons were not used and of course have not been found.. how threatening could they be if they did not even use them when being invaded by a massive force (of the countries they hate)?!

  perhaps, as many suspect, they didn't use them because they didn't have them?.

  now we're being told that we'll have to be patient and give them time to find them.

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  Dear Guest77-

  Um still lost. Is this your own personal theroy? If you have a point make it.
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  BBC bias?

  by Jayson in

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  "we get from time to time people saying you're biased in favour of the labour party.

  every time i ask people - show me a case of that bias, explain to me where we got it wrong and why what we said was so unfair - they seem to be unable to do so.

  - andrew marr, 11 may 2001 .

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  Aba-

  Wow, well if some websites say the BBC is biased it MUST be true!!

  That you start a response like this shows how open minded you are.

  Simon asked me to not post entire sites or articles on the board. Remember? This is a silver of the site. It is links for you to decide. And it is one site. That you are willing to use this against me and in most other posts where you um...respond to me you accuse me of things like "theocratic warfare" (Which me not being a witness and having no such training is awsome) is a joke. But hey my bad Aba, my bad. You are always right.

  Do you remember Kyoto Jayson? You know Bushy informed the world that CO2 wasn't a pollutant; a semanitic twist to make money and avoid costing the USA any money.

  And you refute this because of your multiple degrees in enviornmental biology and spending your life traveling the poles taking Co2 samples yourself right? This "Kyoto" targets the US while leaving other major countries exempt is not about paving the way for a world tax. No, couldn't be.

  Somehow, this bias is small enough for the BBC World Service to be recognised around the World as the first choice for unbiased news. Perhaps journalistic integrity and professionalism override political bias most of the time.

  Arafat got a peace prize. Does that mean he is a man of peace? Moore got an award for a documentary based on lies and misinformation. Does the award mean it is a factual representation? Rush L lets people call Savage lets people call Bill O allows for another opinion but these characters sure as hell are not nonbias. But somehow Euro's think that the BBC is above question; Unfortunatly so does the BBC. That bias, well, it's just my point. It is why Americans simply just don't care want Europe, I mean "the W-o-r-l-d" thinks about them.

  Go put your bib on and tune into Fox; they'll present you with what you want to hear...

  If your case was so strong you would not need comments like this to comfort you.

  Simon,

  From what I've seen of the BBC, they are unbiased. Really?The links you have put (I haven't read them all) are, I suspect, all to one side of an argument. There will be an equal number of times that they give the opposing viewpoint and they do let both sides have a say. Yep and here you are the other side if you choose to be. I tried to keep it short.

  They are possibly unique in broadcasting (certainly compared to commercial corporations) in that they are very critical of themselves and they have no coordinated message or party line that they adhere too.I agree, and I watch the BBC channel here in the US. I read they may be canceling it I will let you know if they do. The BBC news is very different than US news in many ways. I have to admit that I no longer watch any news source every day there are too many. I read every day via 3 to 5 newspapers and I read my never ending stream of books. I also agree that they[BBC] are critical. I call it sceptical of everyone (if that works for you). That in my opinion can be worse than bias and it why I talk the way I do about them. Everyone is suspect. Saddam and Bush are equal. The US must be make equal to every other nation. That is balance. The problem with that way of thinking is equal does not mean same. Many things can not be made to be the same. Life is sometimes not fair that way and one can become nerotic trying to make it so. Anyway all of that is 100/99.9% opinion on my part.
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  WoMD ... so where are they?

  by Simon in

  1. social
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  now, the war is over, the weapons were not used and of course have not been found.. how threatening could they be if they did not even use them when being invaded by a massive force (of the countries they hate)?!

  perhaps, as many suspect, they didn't use them because they didn't have them?.

  now we're being told that we'll have to be patient and give them time to find them.

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  Dear Guest77,

  Could you please explain how you see your question relevent to the thread topic of "where are the Iraqi wmd?"
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  The kind of Man GWBush is.

  by Yerusalyim in

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  at walter reed medical center in washington dc recently the sergeant major of the army, jack tilley, was with a group of people visiting the wounded soldiers.

  he saw a special forces soldier who had lost his right hand and suffered severe wounds of his face and side of his body.

  the sma wanted to honor him and show him respect without offending, but what can you say or do in such a situation that will encourage and uplift?

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  Realist about Social Security. I did not know you had a degree in Econ. Cool

  As to GMF's, it seems some races of humans would rather starve and become extinct than eat it. I'm OK with that, more room for the rest of us. It's to bad that they trust Euro's on this. It will be the death of them.
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  So, what REALLY happened on September 11, a.k.a. the unknowns...???

  by reporter in

  1. social
  2. current

  it's getting on to almost two years since the events of september 11, and it is striking how little we know about what happened: .

  we don't know the real names of any of the hijackers.. we don't know what countries they came from.. we don't know who planned and organized the terrorism.. we don't know who financed it.. we have no idea what actually happened at the pentagon (but i know a boeing 757 didn't go through this hole).

  normal video tapes of and from the pentagon building, which should have shown what happened, have never been released (except for one, which poses more questions than it answers).

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  It's sad that true conspiracy mongers (not bs'ers making fun of their stupidity like I am doing) want so desperatly to believe their crackpot ideas.
  

  I have learned something new about myself. A habit I have about letting people who accuse me of being this or that set the tone of an debate. Like the Fox news issues or someone saying that I watch CCN [comedy news network] I actually refer to it as the "Communist News Network" after all they are not funny & Ted Turner had a part. Then there is the BBC the "Boring British Channel" which I would watch more of but I fall asleep when I try. (Who needs sleeping pills?) As you look in the eyes of President Bush on 9/11 that look of shock; That is all the proof I need to know that this is not something that he took part in. It is why so many, an unpresented number of Americans are behind his lead. When I first had the bad luck of trying to deal with and reason with JW's under the mind control of their own stupidity I never read CoC or Steven Hassan's books. There are many others on top of those that I have read now. But for 10 years the only material I used was theirs. Their arguments and material was beyond any rational argument that can be made. Unless you agree that they have some metaphysical insite that you have to take on their word. (Which I don't) Liberal ideology like most left wing thinkers who are stuck in that mode are just like JW's. Truth, facts, and the such, are really not nessesary to form opinion. Just get a banner statement "We have the truth" or "I hate Bush" it's all the same.
  

  Anyway, I have just bought Ann Coulter's new book "Treason" if I understand it the concept is that liberals are trators. But we will see. (How does she define a "liberal"?) I have not read her other books yet "Slander" or High Crimes and Misdemeanors" but I will. I also have some books on Bush "The Right Man" is one of them. Also "Coloring the News" is one I need to read. I have never dove into Right wing materials any more than I dove into CoC when I first encountered the JW's. These people who buy into the "conspiracy" of 9/11 are a fine example of a RDDB's of the 21st century. It's time I get the "facts" from the other side. I am quite curious if it will be as big of an eye opener as it was with the JW's were for me. It is a question that is deeper than Bush it's about ideology. And how it is wired into people's brains.
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  So, what REALLY happened on September 11, a.k.a. the unknowns...???

  by reporter in

  1. social
  2. current

  it's getting on to almost two years since the events of september 11, and it is striking how little we know about what happened: .

  we don't know the real names of any of the hijackers.. we don't know what countries they came from.. we don't know who planned and organized the terrorism.. we don't know who financed it.. we have no idea what actually happened at the pentagon (but i know a boeing 757 didn't go through this hole).

  normal video tapes of and from the pentagon building, which should have shown what happened, have never been released (except for one, which poses more questions than it answers).

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  What a waste of space.

  Hey don't mock creating BS until you've tried it. Liberals and conspiracy theoristConservatives need to just start running the country & the world and stop even acknowledging their fears much less debating them. Did anyone see Dean on Meet The Press? So sad.

  http://www.msnbc.com/news/912159.asp
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  I'm leaving this board for good.

  by KGB in

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  goodbye

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  (dozens of posts later on such a lame thread topic)

  Whats the deal with people on here who always feel the need to try to attract more attention for themselves by starting the thread "I am leaving"

  "It is always wise to burn your bridges behind you once you've crossed them. After all you never know who may be following behind you."

  Are you telling me that someone saying so long is more lame than "what would you do for an ice cream bar?" Some people who can't let someone say goodbye without being bitter about it are in need of a good fishing trip. Or, a good drowning. You know something to cheer them up.
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  So, what REALLY happened on September 11, a.k.a. the unknowns...???

  by reporter in

  1. social
  2. current

  it's getting on to almost two years since the events of september 11, and it is striking how little we know about what happened: .

  we don't know the real names of any of the hijackers.. we don't know what countries they came from.. we don't know who planned and organized the terrorism.. we don't know who financed it.. we have no idea what actually happened at the pentagon (but i know a boeing 757 didn't go through this hole).

  normal video tapes of and from the pentagon building, which should have shown what happened, have never been released (except for one, which poses more questions than it answers).

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  Did aliens or Bush cause 9/11?

  http://abcnews.go.com/sections/us/DailyNews/conspiracy020417.html