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  Letter from a friend in Iraq

  by Yerusalyim in

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  ok, i won't give his name, but he is a major with an engineer unit in iraq.

  here's what he has to say on iraq, i've highlighted a few interesting points.

  it has been a while since i have written to my friends about what's really going on here in iraq.

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  Jayson

  Btw, at this point, putting iraq back together is something the US does owe the iraqi people.

  (((YES))) I agree S.S. I wish I had said this just once in all the threads about this topic.

  And not just the U.S. All the countries that have been suckling their oil and selling Saddam weapons, we/they all owe the Iraqi people. If others won't then the U.S. needs to continue it without France, Germany, and Russia. I wish more people would be willing to fix the problem first and the not obsess about the blame.
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  WoMD ... so where are they?

  by Simon in

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  now, the war is over, the weapons were not used and of course have not been found.. how threatening could they be if they did not even use them when being invaded by a massive force (of the countries they hate)?!

  perhaps, as many suspect, they didn't use them because they didn't have them?.

  now we're being told that we'll have to be patient and give them time to find them.

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  OK william...That was funny
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  If it were backwards

  by Jourles in

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  i often wonder how most iraqis feel about the presence of troops in their homeland destroying statues, searching through their homes, making sure the oil stays flowing over other basic necessities, etc.

  some iraqis may love the usa for doing what they did.

  but there are probably many iraqis that hate us even more than ever.

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  OK Jour; When you grabbed my comment in the box I thought it was. And if Saddam invaded the U.S. would I be bitter? Yep. Because the facts would be turned around. Even as is in reality I don't expect Iraqi's to embrace the U.S. or it's values. It's two different worlds. And, we abandoned them in the past to many times.

  The USA is hypocritical, IMO.

  No argument from me.

  the US does not help other countries in need when humanitarian efforts call for it.

  We do but often for the wrong reasons. We negotiate with scum for "votes" in the U.N. cheap labor, or whatever we want. We pretend to spread democracy. That is so evil. The U.S. is the superpower and we are to blame for that. It's why I don't respect the U.N. or that part of the USA.
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  If it were backwards

  by Jourles in

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  i often wonder how most iraqis feel about the presence of troops in their homeland destroying statues, searching through their homes, making sure the oil stays flowing over other basic necessities, etc.

  some iraqis may love the usa for doing what they did.

  but there are probably many iraqis that hate us even more than ever.

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  Jayson

  I often wonder how most Iraqis feel
  How would you feel if you had to live through this everyday and read about it in the news?

  Your question was how would I (putting myself in an Iraqi's shoes) feel. And I told you I would be bitter at the U.S. for not comming in 91' not for being here in 03'.

  Iraq is simply only one country out of hundreds across the globe. For anyone to say the restrictions, food shortages, killings, etc. only occur in Iraq is well, naive. Why does the US not take over countries like N. Korea or China? Do not both of those countries send you to prison for looking up negative nationalistic information on the internet? How about some Islamic countries banning the viewing of cable TV because too many women are shown, and if you view it you can be beaten? Syria, Libya? Muammar Ghaddafi is still in power in Libya. Why has the US allowed him to stay?
  

  I didn't say that. I limited my reply to your question. You also talked about how I would feel reading it in the newsevery day. As per your words in Iraq for example you would not have nessesarly been reading it in the news. Nor would you be talking against Saddam for long. Which is why I would be glad to see Saddam goes if I were Iraqi to answer your question.
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  If it were backwards

  by Jourles in

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  i often wonder how most iraqis feel about the presence of troops in their homeland destroying statues, searching through their homes, making sure the oil stays flowing over other basic necessities, etc.

  some iraqis may love the usa for doing what they did.

  but there are probably many iraqis that hate us even more than ever.

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  http://www.freep.com/news/nw/iraq/chald5_20030405.htm

  http://espn.go.com/oly/s/2002/1220/1480103.html

  http://www.weeklystandard.com/Content/Public/Articles/000/000/002/314yltit.asp

  <Jayson of the presenting the other side class>

  I'm not Iraqi so I can't speak for them. But lets pretend the Bush declares martial law and suspends the Constitution of the U.S. He puts his pic everywhere and uses State resources to put up Statues of himeself and palaces in place of feeding the starving people of the country. He defies the UN at every turn and makes Americans the 2nd in the world in the number of refugees. He routinly kills Americans who stand against him and or their families. Any form of disloyalty is met with brutal repercussions. (Far worse than people not wanting to listen to your music any more.) How would I feel if that person was removed from power? Pretty "F"ing good.

  To compare Iraq to any Western democray is not fair.

  But, would I be greatful as an Iraqi today? No. In the inserections of the 1990's we told the people of Iraq to rise up against Saddam. They did. Did we help them? No we did the opposite we let Saddam keep his army and they slottered those who did what the U.S. (GW Bush one) told them to do. Then Saddam punished those who's families took part in the unprising. We did nothing but to put no fly zones & UN Santions. That was not enough. We suck big time for that. That blood is on our hands. We should have done this a long time ago. We owe the Iraq's big time. That's my opinion.
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  WoMD ... so where are they?

  by Simon in

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  now, the war is over, the weapons were not used and of course have not been found.. how threatening could they be if they did not even use them when being invaded by a massive force (of the countries they hate)?!

  perhaps, as many suspect, they didn't use them because they didn't have them?.

  now we're being told that we'll have to be patient and give them time to find them.

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  Guest 77,

  I haven't. BN had no info. What's it about?

  Simon,

  Tell ya what. I support the war (duh) a lot more that Bush. I believe that the war had to happen. Maybe not in 2003 but it had to happen. There still is no one to talk about to run against him so it's hard for me to just run him down over "feelings." I do wish he would shut up more. (back to the war) If no weapons are found in one year and by weapons I mean a quanity of material or the ability to manufacture such material I'll give you $100.00. I believe that the WMD exist. I'm thinking they will be found closer to election time. I believe that US/UK intel suck and that is the major reason that they have not been found post invasion. I've said so before the 1/30.03 issue. (I'll provide links if required) If proof of their pre-invasion distruction is all that is released I will honor the bet. If Ossama & Saddam are not found or proof of their death I'll give $20.00 bucks a head. Why? I don't know. But at least then it's not just "I think! No I think" when neither of us are in intel. Now there is money involved. I hope it changes the feelings. Now if you are right you get money. And if I am right well I bet this thread dies. Good enough for me. If you are wrong it costs ya nothing. If you are right then you are a little richer. What do you think?

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  DR,

  Nice to have you back.
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  WoMD ... so where are they?

  by Simon in

  1. social
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  now, the war is over, the weapons were not used and of course have not been found.. how threatening could they be if they did not even use them when being invaded by a massive force (of the countries they hate)?!

  perhaps, as many suspect, they didn't use them because they didn't have them?.

  now we're being told that we'll have to be patient and give them time to find them.

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  double post
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  WoMD ... so where are they?

  by Simon in

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  now, the war is over, the weapons were not used and of course have not been found.. how threatening could they be if they did not even use them when being invaded by a massive force (of the countries they hate)?!

  perhaps, as many suspect, they didn't use them because they didn't have them?.

  now we're being told that we'll have to be patient and give them time to find them.

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  Simon if I am wrong I'l owe you money. Ok Economicly it imo would have to drasticly change to work, expansion is not what I mean. I could give details but instead; if you swallow the U.S. someday then when I am wrong (in this reality) then I can look forward to a sweet retirement program and more fishing time. Sounds good to me. If it works and becomes global it could have it's plus's for me. (It would not be all bad) I don't even believe in Social Security here in the US when I retire. There may be something but if it does not change I don't see how.

  And money...So many other countries are so colorful. Ours is boring.
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  A few statistics on divorce in the US

  by JH in

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  adults between 25 and 34 years old never married in 1998:

  percentage of people that married under the age of 20 who eventually get divorced as of 1995:

  percentage of people that married over the age of 25 who eventually get divorced as of 1995:

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  http://www.heritage.org/Research/Family/BG1421.cfm

  Interesting ideals for government. So much money is spent after the marriage falls apart or discourages it all together. As to statistics most that make marriage a dark death sentence exclude marriages that already exist. There are some 80 million with 2 million more every year. There are some 1 million divorces. (Off the top of my head) so choose either 50% end in divorce or the divorce rate is like 2%. It depends on what you want to prove.

  JW's divorce rate is of 6% in the U.S.

  I'd like to know how many JW marriages are 2nd marriages. And define a JW marriage/divorce. 3 JW's in my in law family are byproducts of failed marriages. 2 were witness to witness.
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  Letter from a friend in Iraq

  by Yerusalyim in

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  ok, i won't give his name, but he is a major with an engineer unit in iraq.

  here's what he has to say on iraq, i've highlighted a few interesting points.

  it has been a while since i have written to my friends about what's really going on here in iraq.

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  Jayson

  Reborn, Jason, buddy, dude,

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  your post material is already in existence and you know it. I have every right to point it out. Simon claimes I am one the 2 worst of the cut and past posters on JWD. Could it be that posting things that don't fit in the fictious reality of "hate bush" is kind of like swating a hornets nest with a stick around here? Naw, your post to me of name calling and attacking was really called for. Mine was equally vicious.