Posts by Jayson

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Men: Honest answers, please, to an honest question

by berylblue in

from another thread:where else does the media so vividly show females as equal .

when i read this, i had to wonder: is there something wrong with doing so?

portraying women as equals?

Men: Honest answers, please, to an honest question

by berylblue in

from another thread:where else does the media so vividly show females as equal .

when i read this, i had to wonder: is there something wrong with doing so?

portraying women as equals?

Jayson

Realist if you can so casually try to force the case that equality must be proven then that means that you think they are not? Please explain your question.

I tried to say that equality does not mean identical. But that does not seem to be what you are driving for. What is your point. (If you do not mind sharing)

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now, the war is over, the weapons were not used and of course have not been found.. how threatening could they be if they did not even use them when being invaded by a massive force (of the countries they hate)?!

perhaps, as many suspect, they didn't use them because they didn't have them?.

now we're being told that we'll have to be patient and give them time to find them.

Jayson

Aba I would have thought a better argument than to compare the jw prediction of world distruction to the wmd issue. See there was real proof that Saddam a real person and not a ficticious detiy existed. He has used wmd in the past and most important was under UN santions. That you a man who I consider very intelligent can be so easily blinded to the point made that the scouring of Iraq will take over a year which has been said many times by laymen and professionals shows to me that the brainwashing is not the pro war (which is actually people who think that the Middle East needs the same help to get out of the mess that it created for itself that Europe needed 60 years ago) but those who are so blinded by ideolgical hate that you don't care. If this or one of the other threads were scoured I believe I said (and I'm sure others) that with all they whining that has been done at best people in intelligence will be hung out to dry. And that is what has happened. People are falling on their swords. I'm glad you all find it gloat worthy.

WMD? yes I believe that they still exist. All evidence shows that they still do. There is no proof that they were ever distroyed. Saddam has had wmd programs for 20 years why would he stop now? UN inspectors only work when the Nation is willing to disarm. Why is that so hard to understand? Oh yeah never mind many here DO NOT WANT TO UNDERSTAND! As I have said so many times my fear is that there are wmd like nuclear material that has escaped the country.

If it is true and Saddam pulled of the hoax of the century then thank god. And no it does not bother me that he is gone. And it does not bother me that France is being excluded from iol contracts (which they invested billion) and telecommunications contracts (which they are best suited to get.) Teach America a lesson guys put up some more hate threads here. I know all those propaganda peices make you all feel better.

Boycott Starbucks and Mcdonalds! You will sleep better and live longer. http://www.boycottamerica.org/ HURARH

Funny how this only is an issue when a very pro capitalism or (republican) president is in office. Any threads so vicous as these when Clinton bombed the Serbs? OR when he bombed Iraq? Did you secretly gloat when the US soldiers were killed in Somalia? Or, did you just not care? If you want to compare the JW's and this then think about how history is excluded from the conversation, "only talk about the here and now." The past has no bearing on this second in time because if you don't see the track record of Saddam's rule it gives my JW case some merit. If you exlude the murder and human rights violations done by the Saddam regime then there is kind of a point. If you ignore all the wmd evidence of the past, then not having them delievered to Bush via UPS has a case. Just like a dub trying to prove that they have the truth.

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Men: Honest answers, please, to an honest question

by berylblue in

from another thread:where else does the media so vividly show females as equal .

when i read this, i had to wonder: is there something wrong with doing so?

portraying women as equals?

Jayson

Appears to be a lot of political correctness up in here<sigh>PC sucks

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Men: Honest answers, please, to an honest question

by berylblue in

from another thread:where else does the media so vividly show females as equal .

when i read this, i had to wonder: is there something wrong with doing so?

portraying women as equals?

Jayson

Ballistic that is such a good post. I hope you put it into your own thread someday. I'd love to read it.

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WoMD ... so where are they?

by Simon in

now, the war is over, the weapons were not used and of course have not been found.. how threatening could they be if they did not even use them when being invaded by a massive force (of the countries they hate)?!

perhaps, as many suspect, they didn't use them because they didn't have them?.

now we're being told that we'll have to be patient and give them time to find them.

Jayson

Well,

It's nice to know that this thread did not go on just because of me. Bowing out made no difference.

btw I'm glad that as "proof" has been shown that some 16 words the presidental address was based on faulty information. Yeah those 16 words were what did it for me.(((Off With Thier Heads))) This proves that the CIA gave and the President used faulty information, but weapons that were declared but no proof of their distruction never existed? No it doesn't It also proves that there was not a weapons program? No it doesn't. It shows the problems with a preemtive invasion to remove a horried dictator of a closed society who has caused massive wars over 20 years in a world of pasifists who do not care how many ragheads or jungle bunnies are being murdered or starved as long as they have their EZ chair, beer, and TV. Oh and a computer to cry out their frustrations to other frustrated people who are "fat dumb and happy."

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Men: Honest answers, please, to an honest question

by berylblue in

from another thread:where else does the media so vividly show females as equal .

when i read this, i had to wonder: is there something wrong with doing so?

portraying women as equals?

Jayson

People are all individuals and shoudl be judged on their own merits, not what sex they are.-Simon

I agree

In what sense are men and women equal, if they're not the same? Equal in value to society? Equal in overall abilities? Equally intelligent?-Funk

Equality does not mean identical. Isn't that clear enough?

In a philosophical sense if a individual wants to known if they see one sex as better than the other then you should turn to your mate and ask them if they think you treat them as an equal. jmo

It does not(or has never) bothered me one bit to work for or with a woman. All I ask is that the person that I work with be able to do the job.

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An essay by Rush Limbaugh

by Jayson in

you guys said i need to listen to him.

(talk radio & fox <yawn>) .

------ him or loath him, he nailed this one right on the head............. .

Jayson

You guys said I need to listen to him. (Talk radio & FOX <yawn>)

------ him or loath him, he nailed this one right on the head............. By Rush Limbaugh:

I think the vast differences in compensation between victims of the September 11 casualty and those who die serving the country in Uniform are profound. No one is really talking about it either, because you just don't criticize anything having to do with September 11.

Well, I just can't let the numbers pass by because it says something really disturbing about the entitlement mentality of this country.

If you lost a family member in the September 11 attack, you're going to get an average of $1,185,000. The range is a minimum guarantee of $250,000, all the way up to $4.7 million.

If you are a surviving family member of an American soldier killed In action, the first check you get is a $6,000 direct death benefit, half of which is taxable. Next, you get $1,750 for burial costs. If you are the surviving spouse, you get $833 a month until you remarry.

And there's a payment of $211 per month for each child under 18. When the child hits 18, those payments come to a screeching halt.

Keep in mind that some of the people who are getting an average of $1.185 million up to $4.7 million are complaining that it's not enough. Their deaths were tragic, but for most, they were simply in the wrong place at the wrong time. Soldiers put themselves in harms way FOR ALL OF US, and they and their families know the dangers.

We also learned over the weekend that some of the victims from the Oklahoma City bombing have started an organization asking for the same deal that the September 11 families are getting. In addition to that, some of the families of those bombed in the embassies are now asking for compensation as well.

You see where this is going, don't you? Folks, this is part and parcel of over 50 years of entitlement politics in this country. It's just really sad.

Every time a pay raise comes up for the military, they usually receive next to nothing of a raise. Now the green machine is in combat in the Middle East while their families have to survive on food stamps and live in low-rent housing. Make sense?

However, our own U.S. Congress just voted themselves a raise, and many of you don't know that they only have to be in Congress one time to receive a pension that is more than $15,000 per month, and most are now equal to being millionaires plus. They also do not receive Social Security on retirement because they didn't have to pay into the system.

If some of the military people stay in for 20 years and get out as an E-7, you may receive a pension of $1,000 per month, and the very people who placed you in harm's way receive a pension of $15,000 per month. I would like to see our elected officials pick up a weapon and join ranks before they start cutting out benefits and lowering pay for our sons and daughters who are now fighting.

"When do we finally do something about this?" If this doesn't seem fair to you, it is time to forward this to as many people as you can.

If your interested there is more.......................

This must be a campaign issue in 2004. Keep it going. SOCIAL SECURITY: (This is worth the read. It's short and to the point.)

Perhaps we are asking the wrong questions during election years. Our Senators and Congressmen do not pay into Social Security. Many years ago they voted in their own benefit plan. In more recent years, no congressperson has felt the need to change it. For all practical purposes their plan works like this:

When they retire, they continue to draw the same pay until they die, except it may increase from time to time for cost of living adjustments. For example, former Senator Byrd and Congressman White and their wives may expect to draw $7,800,000 - that's Seven Million, Eight Hundred Thousand), with their wives drawing $275,000.00 during the last years of their lives. This is calculated on an average life span for each.

Their cost for this excellent plan is $00.00. These little perks they voted for themselves is free to them. You and I pick up the tab for this plan. The funds for this fine retirement plan come directly from the General Fund--our tax dollars at work! From our own Social Security Plan, which you and I pay (or have paid) into --every payday until we retire (which amount is matched by our employer) --we can expect to get an average $1,000 per month after retirement. Or, in other words, we
would have to collect our average of $1,000 monthly benefits for 68 years and one month to equal Senator Bill Bradley's benefits!

Social Security could be very good if only one small change were made. And that change would be to jerk the Golden Fleece Retirement Plan from under the Senators and Congressmen. Put them into the Social Security plan with the rest of us and then watch how fast they would fix it.

If enough people receive this, maybe a seed of awareness will be planted and maybe good changes will evolve. WE, each one of us... can make a difference..

Now I assume he is talking men and women enlisted in the Armed Services and not Officers. But I did not check facts here.

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Men: Honest answers, please, to an honest question

by berylblue in

from another thread:where else does the media so vividly show females as equal .

when i read this, i had to wonder: is there something wrong with doing so?

portraying women as equals?

Jayson

I honestly wonder how many men -really- think women are their "equals". That concept, in my (admittedly not always so astute) observation, seems.to make so many men so very uncomfortable.

What I think is irrelevant. Women are equal to men. (And I do think them equal fyi)

But equal does not mean same. Men and Women are not the same.

We spend to much time trying to make things the same to call it equal.

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I just realized I could have died

by Jayson in

jw
friends

two days ago i decided to go out on my motorcycle into the backwoods (kind of a desert) behind the city i live in.

it's a combination of drylands that grow wheat and vast natural sagebrush.

i was about 10 miles off road when a 200 or 300 acer brush fire broke out below where i was.

Jayson

Two days ago I decided to go out on my motorcycle into the backwoods (kind of a desert) behind the city I live in. It's a combination of drylands that grow wheat and vast natural sagebrush. I was about 10 miles off road when a 200 or 300 acer brush fire broke out below where I was. It was probably a little less than a half mile below me and growing fast. It jumped a highway and a county road. If the fire department had not stopped it before it started climing the hill it would have trapped me in the brush and a mountian side. Granted I might have been able to out run it but something similar to this happened to a fire chief about 5 or 10 years ago. By the time he realized that the fire was coming up the hill it was too late. He lived butwas horribly disfigured. I was at the base of the hill and watched that fire climb. (Man wild fire can move.) That was so long ago but I still remember it. I did not even know about the fire until I got home. No smoke and no clue. It's scary how close life threatening danger can be and one can be totally unaware of it.