Posts by latinthunder

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New Blog Post: why did God seemingly allow Cain to get away with murder?

by adamah in

i wrote an article on the topic of god's eyebrow-raising lenience shown to cain after killing his brother, exploring possible reasons why the account was written as it was:.

http://awgue.weebly.com/why-did-god-seemingly-allow-cain-to-get-away-with-murder.html.

questions, comments (as well as heads-up on typos, grammar, etc) welcome here, as usual!.

latinthunder

God did not create evil, and he does not tempt men with evil. Evil... death... the propensity to commit evil... just IS. Darkness/death existed, but did not have a foothold to enter the life that God had separated from the darkness - light being life/christ. Not until Adam granted it entrance by sinning and eating of it. (bringing sin and death into him, and into the world)

Wow.... you are claiming that "evil" or "darkness" is eternal, like God, and that Christ had a beginning. You have it backwards. Darkness had a beginning and Christ is eternal.

But yes, I do know a better way. Christ.

Oh jeez. Learn what Christ is first, THEN preach your "way."

They could have listened to God, and grown as God taught them (as we can grow as Christ teaches us now )... but they chose another way. The hard way. Same as some children will listen to the moms (or dads) when they are told not to touch something that will hurt them. Depends upon the faith and love the child has for the parent. Most will learn the hard way though.

I got some bad news for you, there is only the hard way. No pain NO gain.

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New Blog Post: why did God seemingly allow Cain to get away with murder?

by adamah in

i wrote an article on the topic of god's eyebrow-raising lenience shown to cain after killing his brother, exploring possible reasons why the account was written as it was:.

http://awgue.weebly.com/why-did-god-seemingly-allow-cain-to-get-away-with-murder.html.

questions, comments (as well as heads-up on typos, grammar, etc) welcome here, as usual!.

latinthunder

Is it bad or evil when a cat toys with a mouse for an hour before eating its head off or is that just life on earth?

The mouse doesn't experience pain in the way that humans do. The mouse isn't sentient and neither is the cat. You might as well be describing moss "attacking" trees and call that evil.

trying to introduce an all powerful god of love with no evil in him is what creates this contradiction and problem. Life on earth has evolved the way it has evolved. There is no intelligent and logical explanation of evil having to do with god.

Isaiah 47 perfectly explains why God created evil. Spend a great deal of time studying it and you will recieve revelation.

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New Blog Post: why did God seemingly allow Cain to get away with murder?

by adamah in

i wrote an article on the topic of god's eyebrow-raising lenience shown to cain after killing his brother, exploring possible reasons why the account was written as it was:.

http://awgue.weebly.com/why-did-god-seemingly-allow-cain-to-get-away-with-murder.html.

questions, comments (as well as heads-up on typos, grammar, etc) welcome here, as usual!.

latinthunder

Can you consider that man could have created evil, himself... giving it a doorway into 'existence'... himself?

God created ALL THINGS, evil is a thing. Evil is difficulty which is needed for growth. You know a better way?

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New Blog Post: why did God seemingly allow Cain to get away with murder?

by adamah in

i wrote an article on the topic of god's eyebrow-raising lenience shown to cain after killing his brother, exploring possible reasons why the account was written as it was:.

http://awgue.weebly.com/why-did-god-seemingly-allow-cain-to-get-away-with-murder.html.

questions, comments (as well as heads-up on typos, grammar, etc) welcome here, as usual!.

latinthunder

What evil? God is love right? Where did the evil come from? It couldn't exist if god made everything and has no evil.

Isaiah 47 says that God "bring['s] prosperity and create[s] disaster." That's exactly how the Garden of Eden was designed in the story. He created prosperity AND disaster which came through the forbidden fruit. The Great Flood was God's doing, which is why he felt regret. However, Adam DID use his free will to eat, so he brought the disaster upon himself.

Adamah is right that the Jews believed all were designed with the ability to do good or evil. It's called free will. Without the ability to do bad, doing good means nothing.

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If there is a god..

by snare&racket in

jw
friends

now we have to answer...... 1) is there more than one god?

how do you choose the most senior god?.

2) if you chose religious texts to make this desicion, how do you know they are not purposfully misleading by an ill willed god?.

latinthunder

He did... and you are making an inference that is not there.

No, I am reading the number 8 which is how many souls survived the Great Flood. That means no parents, no brothers, no sisters, no grandparents, no uncles, no aunts, no neices, no nephews and NO servants. I am left to conclude that these people, who must have existed in the story, drowned along with everybody else.

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If there is a god..

by snare&racket in

jw
friends

now we have to answer...... 1) is there more than one god?

how do you choose the most senior god?.

2) if you chose religious texts to make this desicion, how do you know they are not purposfully misleading by an ill willed god?.

latinthunder

Tec, how come God didn't save Noah's entire household? Why did he specifically select only his wife, sons and daughters? Surely, Noah had grandparents, uncles, aunts, nieces, nephews and servants? Why not throw them in the Ark? It was because they were captive to the seed of the serpent which is discussed in detail in Genesis 3 and 4. Peter says that spirits were bound in chains after the Great Flood. God sent those who fell from heaven into the abyss, or the land of the dead, packed 'em right in there. Genesis 6:11 speaks of a totally violent world which would mean Noah's family was a party to that violence. Why would he want to bring them with him? So they could bring their insanity into the new world?

Now, fast forward to the story of Christ. What was his criteria for selecting his apostles? Ever wonder why the word "apostle" is so similar to the world "apostate"? Christ was selecting people who were totally opposed to the system they were captives to. He knew that by choosing them they were going to have a hard life that would likely end in torture. Naturally, he would choose people who didn't have strong ties with their family. If God truely IS Love, then Christ would have taken into account many factors in determining who held the roles. Because of the cost.

It's similar to the American Revolutionary War. Their was a solid wall between the one's loyal to the monarchy, who were called "Loyalists", and those opposed. If Christ came in that time do you think he would have chosen a bunch of loyalists as his messengers? No, he would have chosen people who strongly opposed because they would have the most incentive to help. Their very nature would separate themselves from their families who chose to exchange freedom for security.

Truth IS the sword that drives family's apart and always has been. In a world of tryanny, truth means resistance and resistance is taking a side. The problem is when cults, lead by people, wrongly assume the role of Christ, or Truth, which means they are taking the role of the sword, which is too heavy for them to lift.

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If there is a god..

by snare&racket in

jw
friends

now we have to answer...... 1) is there more than one god?

how do you choose the most senior god?.

2) if you chose religious texts to make this desicion, how do you know they are not purposfully misleading by an ill willed god?.

latinthunder

I responded that the things written about Jesus - whether they are true of not - portray a dangerous, unethical cult leader.

Which is precisely why the New Testament is suspect. To find the true Christ using the NT, you have to wade through the propaganda. With how much research we now have with high control groups, we can clearly see what was put into the mouth of the historical figure of Christ as opposed to what he actually said and did. Using science we can now unearth the actual man and separate him from the myths created to falsely exalt him.

Joseph Smith is a perfect example of someone who is slowly becoming more and more mythological as time goes on. Give the Mormon church a few thousand years and Smith will be walking on water, turning water into wine and be immaculately conceived. The tales must be told or else the figure fades into history and becomes ordinary.

Yet, I cannot help but wonder what part Christ played in the destruction of the Roman Empire. Because, if his actions DID destroy the fabric of the civilized world, what does that say about who he was?

What is the Logos, anyway?

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If there is a god..

by snare&racket in

jw
friends

now we have to answer...... 1) is there more than one god?

how do you choose the most senior god?.

2) if you chose religious texts to make this desicion, how do you know they are not purposfully misleading by an ill willed god?.

latinthunder

American isn't a race

Oh yeah it is, it's just a heavily mixed one. Was Christ instrumental in the fall of the Roman Empire? It's not contested than many believed Christ to be either God or the Son of God. Whether or not that was true, don't you think it had at least something to do with the fall of the Roman Empire? I mean, they killed God (or his Son) as per lots and lots of people. That's pretty bad PR.

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If there is a god..

by snare&racket in

jw
friends

now we have to answer...... 1) is there more than one god?

how do you choose the most senior god?.

2) if you chose religious texts to make this desicion, how do you know they are not purposfully misleading by an ill willed god?.

latinthunder

Americans. What else needs to be said?

LOL, that's racist. Do you have a better answer?

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If there is a god..

by snare&racket in

jw
friends

now we have to answer...... 1) is there more than one god?

how do you choose the most senior god?.

2) if you chose religious texts to make this desicion, how do you know they are not purposfully misleading by an ill willed god?.

latinthunder

No Jo Smith was a thick buffoon. Jesus was very clever and charismatic but not in a good way.

How can a thick buffoon mislead so many? I mean, the Mormons are still growing. Do you think the actions of Christ had something to do with the fall of the Roman Empire?